Last week of Spring…

Just catching you up from the weekend…

H/T to Neal Obermeyer’s Tweet on the Ben Nelson t-shirt to the right.

We still think one with the tag-line, “I’m not without some skills!” works as well. (But mainly we’re just bitter we didn’t think of this first.)

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ICYMI, (and you wouldn’t have if you’d just read our Tweets…) New Yorker Bob Kerrey looks to be tapped to be the new head-lobbyist for the Motion Picture Association of America.

Back in the Jack Valenti days, this meant a short speech during the Oscars, and the occasional ridiculous defense of the movie ratings system.

Oh, and according to the reports, he totally would have run for Senator again in 2008 if it had just worked out right for his family.

Mmm-hmm.  It had nothing to do with Mike Johanns getting in the race, you see.

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And, just because you’re nosy, here is a link to area Congressmen’s assets. There is a lot of “somewhere between…” language involved…

101 comments

  1. One Out In The Third says:

    It's actually 3 weeks until the beginning of the "last week of Spring" and the beginning of the Nebraska Doldrums. Better work on your Solstices Sweeper.

  2. Street Sweeper says:

    Memorial Day is in one week.

    Summer "officially" begins on Memorial Day.

    And keep your Druid holidays to yourself!!
    😉

  3. Anonymous says:

    Two dems are far and away the wealthiest of the local national guys (that is, national pols who are from around here).

    Harkin worth upwards of 24 million? Nelson worth as much as 14 million? Glad those guys are in Washington protecting the "little guy" from the Lee Terrys of the world (net worth of a buck, fifty in pocket change and a pack of juicy fruit.)

  4. Solomon Kleinsmith says:

    Don Walton's article today is mostly spot on…

    But trying to equate the situation of Nelson and Ricketts to Heineman and Lakers is absurd. Ricketts was the new kid on the block, and had already made himself look like a fool with his terrible early ads.

    People already know Heineman… so Lakers can't define him early on. He can attempt to tarnish his image somehow, but it would take some fantastic messaging and a lot of money… I'm not a fan myself, but most people seem to like Heineman.

  5. GeosUser says:

    As a practicing Druid for all of my adult life, I'm shocked and insulted by your admonition "And keep you Druid holidays to yourself!!" Sweeper. Lucky for you I'm not a Muslim or who know what might happen??? Now if there were just more willing young nubile female Druid virgins available for "sacrifice" on the Solstice…LOL!

  6. Macdaddy says:

    I guess lobbyists are bad unless they're from the right industry. Having said that, I can't imagine a better job than the one Kerrey is taking (probably?). Nobody has more credibility with Capitol Hill than actors. Talk about your money for nothing and chicks for free! What I don't understand is why the MPAA thinks they need a lobbyist.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Don Walton is trying desperately to make the Terry/White race sound competitive.

    Don Walton is such a shill. Sorry, SS, but I have to agree with RWP when it comes to Don the Democrat.

  8. Jamie says:

    I'd be REALLY surprised if White were worth seven figures. First of all, my parents literally live across the street from White. Country Club is nice, but these properties aren't for millionaires. Second, he's a private practice attorney. Generally, those types aren't millionaires, especially in an area like Omaha. Third, he's not dedicating multi-millionaire kind of money to his campaign. We know Lakers pledged to give $100K of his own money because he's rich rich rich. White doesn't give that kind of money. He's comfortable, giving a couple hundred here, the occasional thousand there, but never the kind of money that Lakers-types have.

    But furthermore, look at his campaign filings. I did a while back as he just filed papers for NE2, and none of his annual numbers exceeded $200K. And they've been declining recently.

  9. Macdaddy says:

    I don't know Jamie. Democrats are only generous with other people's money. They tend to be pretty tight-fisted with their own. After all, you don't get rich giving your money away. See Al Gore's tax returns as VP, Joe Biden's tax returns as Senator and VP, Warren Buffett's maneuvers to circumvent the death tax.

  10. Shoe Salesman says:

    MacDaddy – Right.

    Democrats are generous with spending other people's money and republicans are generous with spending the lives of other people's sons and daughters.

    Oh and of course all republicans give 25% of their incomes to charity.

  11. Jamie says:

    @ Macdaddy

    I can't disagree with what you say. But I was talking to my brother in law about the political landscape in our respective states (he's from Fort Worth, I'm from Lincoln). I told him because no political-type Democrats aren't viable candidates for statewide office, the NDP tends to recruit those candidates who are hugely wealthy from the private sector. I hypothesize they do this to make sure they have at least a bit of money for campaign season and to inflate their campaign funds so that they can attract more donors. This is the tactic Lakers has been using (with the supplementary tactic of making up your own numbers), and from what I understand, happened long before I moved to Nebraska with Ben Nelson and Kathy Campbell.

    I still don't think he's a multimillionaire. I drove past his house today, in fact. I'd guess it's worth about $400K. Looks like a three or four bedroom. Most people with the kind of money people have rumored on LWS live far north or west of the city, from what I understand in mansion-esque houses on huge lots. Plus when you factor in the fact when someone we know is well-endowed like Lakers or Campbell they dedicate tens of thousands.

  12. Jamie says:

    @ 4:18

    I thought the statement I made about Campbell was kind of a moderately-accepted piece of hearsay. Kind of like how the word is is that Sad Sak was recruited by Americans for Prosperity.

    I will note legislative races are not really my forte, especially ones prior to 2008. I didn't really experience any of this race firsthand because I lived 1500 miles away during that campaign.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Jamie–

    You need to look at White's filings w/the FEC and NADC. He lists over 44 separate investment accounts, plus his share of the law firm is $1 mil minimum.

    Ole middle class Tom…

  14. Shoe Salesman says:

    Hagel was a multimillionaire and so is Johanns. So was Osborne. What is the point of all this about Tom White's money. At least he earned it by hard work, not fixing a spectrum lottery or watching his wife earn it.

    You republicans are hilarious. You ran Pete Ricketts for Senate in 2006 – he's real working class – he owns a friggin baseball team. Baseball owners is a more exclusive club than even the US Senate.

    Love it. When Democrats do this you all squeal to high heaven about class warfare. When you do it you'd think it was trickle-down wealth-onomics.

  15. Macdaddy says:

    Anon 4:38: He's giving away 85% of his fortune to charities…over time. What the timeline is, who knows? Probably he has some legal instrument that declares the time of the gift to be one minute before his heart stops beating. In other words, he has control of the money up until the end. In any event, most of the money is going to the Bill Gates Foundation which already had $30 billion. He subsequently was made a board member on that foundation. No, nothing fishy about any of that. He's giving billions to his kids' foundations as well.

    What he won't be doing is giving billions to the federal government, an entity that is trillions of dollars in debt and whose debt he has cheered on. So Farmer Bob's kids have to sell the family farm to pay off the death taxes while Warren Buffett's kids get to see the amount of money they control increase tax free.

  16. The Pip says:

    I'm a guessing the "somewhere in between" figure is used in case they get caught in an affair with a staffer. They'll want to use the lower figure in the divorce settlement.

  17. Macdaddy says:

    I guess the last 6 months of stock market gains are now a wash. I wonder if we'll see a return to the 7000 range.

    Let's see, the Dow has lost over a 1000 points in a couple of weeks, oil keeps bubbling up from the Gulf for over a month, North Korea torpedoed a South Korean ship, Iran just bought more time for their nuclear bomb program, the unemployment rate is going back up to 10%, and the new budget has a projected deficit of $1300 billion. In the meantime, the Obama administration is attacking Arizona and Sarah Palin. I have such confidence in our President.

  18. One Out In The Third says:

    Mac…

    You got to look at the bright side…The "Happy Trails" song is playing for Arlen Specter…and the clock is ticking for Ben Nelson.

  19. Macdaddy says:

    Nathan, giving to the poor is good and avoidable. Giving to the government is bad but unavoidable. Finding ways around giving to the government and then insisting everyone else should give to the government is being a jerk. My point is that Warren Buffett is being very hypocritical by supporting Democrats and all their big government programs and then merrily skipping out on the bill.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Actually, McDaddy, I'd provide the link but SS doesn't like that. It's a story I once saw about Buffett. He does his own taxes, doesn't have an accountant do them. He takes none of the lost list of deductions that he could take due to the level of wealth he has. He pays more in taxes than he actually has to pay. Just thought you should know that.

  21. Nathan says:

    Macdaddy,
    Your argument is odd considering that Buffet has said on numerous occasions that he and other billionaires like him should pay more in taxes. I believe that he even spoke in front of Congress about how unfair and unjust it is that his secretary pays a higher percentage of income into taxes than he does.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Macdaddy, why all the sympathy for farmer Bob's kids? Chances are that farmer Bob's wealth all came from government subsidies to start with. Why should tax payers continue supporting another 3 or 4 generations of Bob's family? Tell the kids to get a job and stop living off of the tax payers.

  23. macdaddy says:

    There is nothing stopping Warren Buffett, or anyone else, for giving more to the government. If he thinks he should pay more to the government, then he should get out his checkbook and write a check. Instead, he's writing checks to other billionaires to make sure that the government doesn't get anything other than what TurboTax says to send in.

    I said Farmer Bob, not "Farmer" Ben. Farmer Bob doesn't get government subsidies. And Farmer Bob doesn't hire illegal aliens, so his kids have been working the farm this whole time.

  24. Nathan says:

    So Buffet has a moral obligation to not give money to charity? Your entire line reasoning is very stupid and so far not defensible, good luck with that though. And whatever taxes the evil Buffet is avoiding by selfishly giving money to the poor is small compared to the subsidies given to farmers. 245.9 billion in subsidies since 1995 to be exact.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Hummmm? What kind of crops is Farmer Bob growing macdaddy? If he's not getting a government paycheck and has made enough money to pay estate taxes his crops must be illegal.

  26. Macdaddy says:

    Once more, with feeling. Farmer Bob has to sell the farm (well, actually his family does because he's dead). He's one of the 2/3rds of farmers that don't get subsidies.

    Nathan, you should sue your teachers.

  27. The Pip says:

    Enough on the farm subsidies. When farmers are making money, they are spending money. When they are spending money, we are making money.

    Those creatures living in the urban jungles never figure that out.

  28. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Enough on the illegal aliens. When illegal aliens are making money, they are spending money. When they are spending money, we are making money.

    Those creatures living on land stolen from the Indians never figure that out.

  29. Click says:

    Any of you seeing the Mark Lakers adds on Facebook? Perhaps some brave souls should spend their day clicking on the adds to help burn up his advert budget:)

    Clicking for Lakers.

  30. Brian, you're insufferable says:

    Oh good grief, Brian. You are just completely insufferable. Land stolen from the Indians? Are you volunteering to give yours back?

    We bought this land from France back in 1803. That's over 200 years ago, champ. Can we move forward based on the reality that exists today?

    Can you give me some idea as to some future point after which you'll let this one go? Or are you going to continue bringing it up periodically out of the blue.

  31. Brian T. Osborn says:

    BYIS,

    As my identity icon states, "Sarcasm is just another free service I offer."

    Sorry that you're too thick headed to "get" it.

    So … it was the French that stole America from the Indians? I guess that makes OUR ancestors merely accessories after the fact. The guy that "bought" your stolen car would, according to your logic, have a perfectly legal right to keep it then?

  32. Nathan says:

    Macidiot,
    I would hire you to sue them, but you would lose that argument too. As soon as you can logically justify why Buffet should not donate money to poor people (which you haven't done yet) I will relent. Perhaps you should try and talk to a teacher or professor, Im sure Dick Shugrue would teach you something out of pity.

    In the mean time since you are so concerned with farmer bob, perhaps you should contact Terry and make sure he supports HR 3524, he isn't listed as a sponsor or co-sponsor on the bill.

  33. Anonymous says:

    Vile Kyle,

    No one cares what you have to say about anything. So you might as well quit your lame attempt to draw readers over to NNN by posting anonymously here.

  34. Anonymous says:

    Kyle's Posts

    Maybe Kyle can do start a thread at NNN as to the nat'l debt hitting $13,000,000,000,000.00 today–under the D's programs and watch.

    Good job, guys. The $800 bil. stimulus program has worked well–we were promised it would cap unemployment at 8%. The rate is now 9.9% and will probably hit 10% soon.

    And then there's health care–another $1,000,000,000,000 we don't have. No wonder Tom W. is hiding from the press and won't comment about his support for it.

  35. BTO is still insufferable says:

    BTO, this identity icon you speak of, would that be among the content blocked when the site prompts me as to whether I only want to see content delivered securely?

    And, just so I understand, are you saying that EVERYTHING you post here is sarcasm and that you don't really mean any of it? All this time, I thought you were a complete tool and now I find out you didn't really mean any of it. Good to know.

    And, asking me about a hypothetical stolen car — more sarcasm I suppose? Otherwise, that would be a pretty stupid analogy. A better one would be if my neighbor built a house and barn on my property, living there as though it was his own and I did nothing about it for TWO HUNDRED YEARS, then, yeah, he'd own it.

    There's actually a legal name for that — it's called acquiring title by adverse possession. You can look it up. But you probably already agree with me since you were just being sarcastic and all.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Last five Kyle threads this week at NNN have generated (drum roll please….) all of 17 comments. Wow. Really intense level of feedback at Neg Nebraska Net.

    Looks like the most frequent poster is Lisa Hannah. lol VK probably calls her up begging for her to post comments…

  37. Anonymous says:

    Montana Hannah must have alot of time on her hands–guess no campaigns will hire her for the 'consulting expertise'. Maybe a tracker slot will open up soon somewhere…

  38. Brian T. Osborn says:

    BISI,

    Seems to me the Indians did more than stand idly by while the white man took everything from them. But, if you'd be willing to let your neighbor build a house and barn on your property, then wait 200 years to do anything about it, that would explain why you don't "get" sarcasm when it is used. Tsk-tsk, even your browser can't respect anyone that slow.

  39. OK, so "insufferable" doesn't quite cover it says:

    And here we have the man who aspires to lead the Democratic party in the State of Nebraska trying to argue that the United States does not legitimately possess the land between the Pacific and the Atlantic Oceans.

    Let it go, Brian. It's so much water under the bridge. Really, for your mental health. Otherwise, you'll grow up to be a bitter old man.

  40. Brian T. Osborn says:

    OKSO,

    I'm already a bitter, old man. It's fools like you that made me become one.

    You need to keep up on your reading. I decided some time ago not to run for Chair of the NDP. In fact, I've come to the conclusion that it would be a waste of my time even if I did run … and win. I no more want to lead a flock of sheeple than I want to BE one, and apparently the majority of Nebraska's Democrats just want someone to tell them what to think, what to do, when and how to do it.

    Ever since I became involved in the NDP, I have pushed for nothing but for each and every Democrat in the state, and particularly those in the 3rd CD, to find their own voices and to freely express themselves. Most of what I've gotten for my efforts was a continuous flood of pleas to STFU and let the lawyers in Lincoln and Omaha run the party the way they want. I imagine the same holds true for those of you that belong to the Republican party, does it not?

    I'm retiring from politics. I'm going to continue to be a thorn in the side of anyone I disagree with, just because I enjoy being a disagreeable, bitter, old man. Besides, I promised Trish that would be her retirement gift. She's a lot more fun to be with than Senator Nelson's fan club, so I plan on spending more of my free time with her than with you guys.

    Oh, and as for the Indians … what's happened has happened. That doesn't mean that I have to be PROUD of what my ancestors did to them. You can do that, I can't.

  41. Rejoice! Brian's retiring from politics says:

    Wow, you really like calling everyone you disagree with a fool or an idiot or some other such term. Is that how you got to be so popular among your fellow democrats. It sure is easy to see why they like you so much.

    (That was sarcasm, fyi. Since you don't appear to know how to define it, you probably wouldn't be able to recognize the real thing, either.)

    And you can be ashamed of your ancestors if you want to. I'm proud of mine. After fighting on behalf of the Union in the Civil War, two of my great-grandfathers brought their families west from Pennsylvania and New York in covered wagons, while enduring unimaginable hardships, making tremendous sacrifices, and working their fingers to the bone to build homesteads in north central Kansas and southeast Nebraska, respectively.

    They — and people like them — made this nation the great country that it became. I'm very proud of my ancestors and not the least bit ashamed of them. Sorry you're so embarrassed by yours. My guess is that, if they knew you, the feeling would be mutual.

    (FYI, that wasn't sarcasm.)

  42. Rejoice! Brian's retiring from politics says:

    Wow, you really like calling everyone you disagree with a fool or an idiot or some other such term. Is that how you got to be so popular among your fellow democrats. It sure is easy to see why they like you so much.

    (That was sarcasm, fyi. Since you don't appear to know how to define it, you probably wouldn't be able to recognize the real thing, either.)

    And you can be ashamed of your ancestors if you want to. I'm proud of mine. After fighting on behalf of the Union in the Civil War, two of my great-grandfathers brought their families west from Pennsylvania and New York in covered wagons, while enduring unimaginable hardships, making tremendous sacrifices, and working their fingers to the bone to build homesteads in north central Kansas and southeast Nebraska, respectively.

    They — and people like them — made this nation the great country that it became. I'm very proud of my ancestors and not the least bit ashamed of them. Sorry you're so embarrassed by yours. My guess is that, if they knew you, the feeling would be mutual.

    (FYI, that wasn't sarcasm.)

  43. Rejoice! Brian's retiring from politics says:

    Wow, you really like calling everyone you disagree with a fool or an idiot or some other such term. Is that how you got to be so popular among your fellow democrats. It sure is easy to see why they like you so much.

    (That was sarcasm, fyi. Since you don't appear to know how to define it, you probably wouldn't be able to recognize the real thing, either.)

    And you can be ashamed of your ancestors if you want to. I'm proud of mine. After fighting on behalf of the Union in the Civil War, two of my great-grandfathers brought their families west from Pennsylvania and New York in covered wagons, while enduring unimaginable hardships, making tremendous sacrifices, and working their fingers to the bone to build homesteads in north central Kansas and southeast Nebraska, respectively.

    They — and people like them — made this nation the great country that it became. I'm very proud of my ancestors and not the least bit ashamed of them. Sorry you're so embarrassed by yours. My guess is that, if they knew you, the feeling would be mutual.

    (FYI, that wasn't sarcasm.)

  44. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Re-Joyce,

    You like putting words in others' mouths don't you? As I've often stated, I speak for myself. Yeah, you are a fool. Yeah, a lot of other people that deserve the moniker get called fools, or worse, by me.

    Had I been involved in politics just for a popularity contest, I could have kissed ass and been the Lee DeWize of Nebraska's Democrats. Instead, I preferred to be the Simon Cowell. I've been a pain-in-the-ass to a lot of the powers that be in the party, but I'm one of those that prefers to tell it like it is.

    Listen up knuckle-head, I'm not ashamed of my heritage. That doesn't mean I have to be proud of EVERYTHING my ancestors have done. As Bud Pettigrew pointed out to me, one of my most famous ones, David Crockett, left his wife and family to go fight FOR slavery in Texas. My maternal ancestors were fierce border Scots. I'm proud of their defending their lands, but I don't condone the gruesome tortures they inflicted on any Englishman they captured. And you don't have a monopoly on homesteaders. Nearly everyone that lives in this state can lay claim to that, except those that were here first.

  45. Anonymous says:

    My mother always used to say that just because you have a thought it doesn't mean it always has to come out of your mouth.

    Wise woman. Nobody's fool.

  46. Right Wing Professor says:

    Those creatures living on land stolen from the Indians never figure that out.

    The Indians weren't doing much on the Plains until the Spanish released horses. Omahans have some reason to feel guilty, there were Indians in the Missouri valley from way back. But out there in Phelps County, I'd say you're blameless.

    As George McDonald Frazier pointed out, if we all went back whence we came, Ur of the Chaldees would be a pretty crowded place. Before the Europeans came, Indians spent their time dispossessing other Indians. The only ones with any beef are the Pawnee, who by most accounts were kicked around by everybody.

  47. Right Wing Professor says:

    I see 'Top Kill' ain't working so well. Basic physics continues to operate. Too bad Steve Chu, crack particle physicist and Big Science Guy, seems to be a little hazy on fluid dynamics.

    I loved Zero's reply to the question about Bobby Jindal:

    "Uh uh the Corps of Engineers took two weeks to study the barrier island idea, and uh uh came to the conclusion (sic!) two weeks later that it might work or might not, but by then of course some of the oil had come ashore".

    By the time Zero and his crack scientific team have fully examined every implication, decided on a plan, and run the environmental impact assessment, the hole will have run itself dry. On the other hand, maybe that is the plan…'Gentlemen, we can out-last this leak!"

    It's too bad you can't plug the hole by talking at it. Obama would have this one licked.

    And Tom White? He'd probably draft a three line bill that unintentionally let BP dump all the spilled oil in Nebraska.

  48. Anonymous says:

    RWP–no. Tom White would intro a bill that provides "it will be a bad thing if an oil company rig leaks oil. Bad, bad, bad." Glad Tom put that on the record.

    Of course, with TW's luck, the bill would be ruled not germane–which happened when he tried to intro a bill during last fall's special session.

  49. Anonymous says:

    Kind of like when Tom found out Shane Osborn was putting the state's budget data on his web site.

    Tom rushed to the rescue to intro a bill that … drum roll please … said the Treasurer should put the state's budget data on his web page.

    Tom should head up the Dep't of Redundancy Department.

  50. Anonymous says:

    RWP, care to retract your premature extrapolation! Are you a professor of your own online u? Top Killing is working (so far).

  51. Right Wing Professor says:

    I.Top Killing is working (so far).

    Shows you don't understand what they're doing. Sure, if you pump mud at high pressure in one direction, you'll staunch the flow of oil in the other direction. But you can't do that indefinitely, and you can't tell if it worked until you turn the mud off.

    Thad Allen claims it's working. But he claimed that yesterday too, even BP had already suspended the operation and restarted it later, saying it hadn't.

    I'll be happy if it eventually works. But so far there's no evidence it has.

  52. GeosUser says:

    RWP,
    If the heavy drilling mud complimented by "junk shot" does stem the flow of crude without rupturing the downhole casing, They will immediately begin pumping special cement to permanently close the well bore. The danger to "top kill" is rupturing the casing which would allow the high pressure natural gas and crude to greatly enlarge the well bore and make the gusher even worse. Plus that would likely make a relief well useless.

  53. Right Wing Professor says:

    Geosuser:

    The junk shot addition makes the chances of success higher, certainly. I was pretty skeptical about the original plan to use just drilling mud.

  54. Right Wing Professor says:

    Latest is that Top Kill has been suspended for a second time. Twice in two days Thad Allen has gone to the press with insanely optimistic predictions that the leak is being closed. Given the importance of his position, shouldn't Obama find someone who has some tenuous grasp of reality?

    …I mean, to the extent that is possible working for a Democrat administration.

  55. Gerard Harbison says:

    Some of the driller blogs are now reporting an 'explosive event' prior to the second Top Kill shutdown, and now say the vent is spewing oil at a greatly increased rate.

    Geosuser may well have correctly predicted disaster.

  56. Anonymous says:

    And the same admin. that is now in charge of stopping the leak is going to be in charge of everyone's health care? great…

  57. Anonymous says:

    Just heard 'Top Kill' isn't working. What's the Obama administration's Plan B–they've had a Plan B, right? Or were they really not focused on this prob the past month…

  58. Right Wing Professor says:

    Hey, anonymous@8.29, top kill has officially failed. Going to man up and admit you were wrong?

    Didn't think so.

    I bet it won't spoil Zero's weekend, though. He doesn't give a FF about the Gulf.

  59. Anonymous says:

    Hey, so what's all you're idea on how to stop that huge mess up by BP? The government has been involved in all discussions on all attempts to stop the flow, and BP SHOULD pay for every attempt. They are the ones, after all, that took so many safety shortcuts that results in this big disaster. When the experts who think they know the right answer step up, let us all know because the current ones from BP, other industry experts, and the government seem to not have found the right one. Of course, some of you apparently have the answer for a scenario Big Oil never anticipated, right? Maybe this is the reason that drilling is STUPID at such extreme depths. I'll be waiting for the next big hurricane to now come through and toss all that oil all over the south. After all, it tends to the radical right-wing fringe that lives in those areas and bowed down to Sarah's drill baby drill chants.

  60. Nathan says:

    Im just curious why there aren't any idiots out there chanting drill baby drill anymore?
    And for all you partisan hacks out there trying to blame Obama for this, really? Just what should Obama do, order the Navy to torpedo the oil leak? Maybe depth charges? The experts in this world on deep water drilling dont work for the US government, they work for BP and the other oil companies. Hence the people with the best idea on how to stop this also work for the oil companies. You are delusional if you think that the government has the ability to step stop this all on their own. This is a BP mess and they are by far the best possible answer to this. I for one am NOT and expert on deep water drilling therefore Im going to let the people who know it best figure out how to stop it. Im curious as to why there are so many deep water drilling experts located in Nebraska anyway.

  61. Anonymous says:

    Nathan– you say this is BP's mess– wrong. It is Obama's mess–he's the one who is going to be held accountable by the public. That's just the way it is–i.e. GWB and Katrina.

    Turns out the clean-up workers for Obama's beach visit were bused in as props, then left right after the prez and press did. That's not gonna plug the hole…

  62. Nathan says:

    Anon 1:53,
    This country has gone through hundreds of hurricanes, and in modern times all responses have done better than GWB. The hurricane came ashore august 29th, and not until September 2nd did a convoy of trucks with water and food make it to the superdome. And since you are evidently to incompetent to understand, we had 5 days warning before the hurricane hit the gulf coast. Plus its hurricane season so we should have been expecting it anyway. People died because of the incompetence of the response of GWB and Mike "heck of a job" Brown.
    For comparison purposes, Katrina killed 1200 people, Hurricane Andrew killed 23 in the US.

  63. Right Wing Professor says:

    Deep water drilling is expensive. It would have been far cheaper to drill on the coastal slope of ANWR. Unfortunately, the Left and the Democrat pary decded imagined threats to a few caribou were more important than the welfare of millions of Americans. An accident of this magnitude would be far less likely on land; if it happened, it would be far easier to cap; and the economic and environmental consequences would be far less severe.

    The drlling engineers whose opinions I've read say we should really be drilling multiple relief wells, because the success chances of a single well are considerably less than 100%. The decision not to do so is an economic one. And with Obama snugly in bed with BP, to the extent that BP's American lobbying is handled by the co-chair of the Obama transition team, is Obama going to make them drill backup relief wells?

  64. Right Wing Professor says:

    Primary responsibility for the welfare of the citizens of New Orleans was in the hands of Mayor 'chocolate city' Ray Nagin and Governor Kathleen Blanco. Both failed to implement proper evacuation orders or to take easily executed steps to get the people out. That is the primary reason so many people died. Nagin was too scared even to go to the operations center during the hurricane.

    Then New Orleans re-elected him.

  65. Right Wing Professor says:

    So Nathan, The NY Times is quoting Carol Browner as saying that Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy and Nobel laureate, was opposed to them even attempting Top Kill, because he was sure it wouldn't work and could well make matters worse. (He's not a drilling engineer either, by the way, but he's a very smart guy. who just chooses his friends badly). Nevertheless, BP were allowed to go forward with the operation. If we're really in charge, as Obama says, THEN WHY THE HELL IS BP BEING ALLOWED TO CARRY OUT OPERATIONS OUR SECRETARY OF ENERGY AND HIS ADVISORY PANEL OF 150 OF OUR BEST SCIENTISTS ADVISE AGAINST???

  66. Nathan says:

    RWP,
    When I first heard they were going to try the top kill I was skeptical too. It seemed to me that there just wouldn't be enough pressure from the mud to offset the pressure from the oil. Even if there was only a 5% chance of it working it still should have been tried.

  67. Nathan says:

    I would hope that BP is trying these things in the order in which it is most likely to succeed, that would make sense but with those british isles types you never know.

  68. Anonymous says:

    Nathan–keep giving us your 'excuses'. You'll probably have some time to keep refining them–now Carol Browner is saying the hole won't be plugged until August…

    If she's right, the prez's approval could take a major hit…

  69. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Yes, with all the problems facing our nation, the most important one of all is Pres. Obama's ratings! So, to resolve these problems, let's all just keep making partisan politics the answer. That has always worked so well in the past.
    (for those unable to discern it, this message contains sarcasm)

  70. Anonymous says:

    BTO–totally agree w/you–you have major cred on this since you have never, ever made political or partisan comments, right?

    The issue (to me at least)is this: Obama's people stood back for weeks distancing themselves from BP–they wanted BP to take the hit and plug the hole. Now that it isn't working, and the situation looks desperate, they've engaged. But now it is too late–their management incompetence has been seared into the public's mind.

    This from the same crowd that wants to run health care in the U.S?

  71. Anonymous says:

    Amend 7:44 post

    Turns out Carol Browner said yesterday ". . . it's important for people to understand that from the beginning, the government has been in charge."

    OK. Fair enough.

  72. Anonymous says:

    Get ready for more goo…

    Same article in the NYT says the new attempt to plug the hole will "temporarily result in 20 percent more oil pouring into the water".

  73. Anonymous says:

    For those keeping track…

    Vile Kyle posted five articles at NNN this week. Three had no comments whatsoever. The other two had a total of 13 comments. Impressive. lol

    Doesn't seem to be much interest in Neg Nebr Net other than from Vile and Montana Hannah…

  74. And Bryan's still insufferable says:

    Nathan, I wonder how many lives would have been saved during Katrina if the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana had been even marginally competent. Had Nagin issued an evacuation order prior to, what, 8 hours before landfall was it? (you say they had 5 days advanced notice), then all those school buses that were under water could have been used to deliver people to higher ground further inland.

    I don't think it's a settled question that it's the Federal Government's job to send a convoy of trucks with food and water to the Superdome. What responsibility do the individual, the city and the state have? Any?

    Oh, and I see Bryan finally figured out what sarcasm really is. Dictionaries are wonderful things, Bri.

  75. Anonymous says:

    Hey, Nathan, when is the Obama Administration going to push BP aside and send a convoy of trucks with food and water to cap this gusher in the Gulf of Mexico? You complain about GWB taking 5 days. Well, BHO has had more than 5 weeks. Git 'er done.

    (That's a proverbial convoy of trucks for those not quick enough on the uptake to figure that out.)

  76. Nathan says:

    A convoy of trucks you say, well we might as well dump them in the ocean, maybe a 1000 of those can stop the leaking well. Oh and ABSI, you plainly are not that familiar on this so stop before you embarrass yourself further. For your information the feds take charge of every major natural disaster, possible exceptions would be fires in california (and cal fire does a good job with those). And while Michael Brown deserves much criticism for his role as FEMA director, its the idiot who put the incompetent man in charge that deserves (and gets) the most blame.

  77. Anonymous says:

    Why the heck won't the feds let Jindal put up the barriers? The least they could do. Not an impressive showing by the Obama/Pelosi/White team.

  78. Anonymous says:

    Peggy Noonan:

    "Mr. Obama was supposed to be competent . . . the disaster in the Gulf may well spell the political end of the president and his administration, and that is no cause for joy."

    WSJ, Sat. 5/30

  79. Anonymous says:

    Nathan, like I said, I'm talking about a "proverbial" convoy of trucks. It was in my post. Proverbial. You said Bush was late sending a convoy of trucks and that the Fed Gov't should have stepped up and done something sooner than 5 days after Katrina. So, what is the Federal Government doing to cap this well? What have they done to throw the PROVERBIAL convoy of trucks at this issue?

    "Have YOU plugged the hole yet, daddy?" Even Malia Obama is wondering WTF her dad has done to fix this. It's his job, right?

  80. To: The insufferable Brian says:

    Hey, Bri, pardon the typos. It's my big fingers, doncha know. Just like your pal Bud.

  81. To: The insufferable Brian says:

    Hey, Bri, pardon the typos. It's my big fingers, doncha know. Just like your pal Bud.

  82. To: The insufferable Brian says:

    Hey, Bri, pardon the typos. It's my big fingers, doncha know. Just like your pal Bud.

  83. Nathan says:

    Anonymous idiot,
    I am fully aware you were talking about proverbial trucks. I followed your proverbial sarcasm with some of my own when I suggested 1000 trucks. Read slower and maybe your reading comprehension level will rise (though then again, maybe it wont).

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