Ready Orr not

This morning the LJS is reporting that former Nebraska Governor Kay Orr would like state Senator Deb Fischer to run for U.S. Senate.

She really doesn’t get into any details except,

Orr said she wants a Republican nominee who will place principle ahead of political calculation.

“Too often, the discussion is about political consequences and political fallout,” she said. “There is too little consideration of (whether) this is the right thing to do, the principled thing to do.

“That’s why we need a person of strong moral character and principles,” she said.

Is Orr suggesting that Jon Bruning or Don Stenberg do not have strong moral character? Well, we don’t know if that is what she intended to say, but that is sure the way it came out.

We have said before and we will say again that Deb Fischer could make a great U.S. Senator — and could be a great candidate against Ben Nelson. But in order to get there, she would need a serious financial infusion. And for her supporters to simply hammer Jon Bruning — is there another way to put it? — they aren’t going to get her get there.

Here is the deal: Unless the Haters can get a serious amount of cash to wage a serious campaign for another candidate, there is no use to bashing the candidates that are already in. Now maybe the anti-Bruning plan is to create doubt in the leading current candidate, and thereby encourage the deep pockets that they should invest in someone new.

Interesting strategy. Except that if Fischer or someone else doesn’t end up getting the cash or running, then you have just knocked your best candidates for no apparent reason.

If Kay Orr and David Kramer and any others really want to make it happen for Deb Fischer or any other candidates, they should show them the money. Then they can take to the papers and blast away. Otherwise they should probably just go the direct route and write a check to Ben Nelson.

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And speaking of Nelson, he is atop his pedestal proclaiming that he won’t take his salary during any potential government shutdown.

That’s nice. Are we to understand that he needs it in the first place? Will he feel some sort of pain from that that? Are we supposed to empathize?

How about instead, “I’m going to convince the Majority Leader to come around and help push the sensible proposed budget through.”

Because remember, he is the conservative Democrat who always votes with the Republicans, right? Right?

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Omaha Mayor Jim Suttle is going to talk about his recall campaign at the National Press Club. It will be interesting to hear what he tries to sell there.

Suggested question #1: How many homeless people does the average bus hold and how many do you need to pay to really effect the campaign?

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Per our post the other day about redistricting, we hear that the “Take all of Sarpy, and all of Douglas, but cut out portions of north and central Douglas” for NE-2 is probably not on the table anymore.

But then again, maybe it is. Let’s just wait until we hear an actual proposal, eh?

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We heard there was a primary election recently in Nebraska’s capital city.

Please let us know when the general election gets competitive and we will send a correspondent.

71 comments

  1. Grundle King says:

    I live in Lincoln, and I didn’t know until Tuesday there was a primary election. Then after I found out and discussed it with co-workers, I found out it really didn’t matter. The number of folks running in the primaries meant that nobody was really going to get knocked out in the primary vote.

  2. Strong Moral Character says:

    I must have missed David Kramer endorsing Fischer for Senate?

    Governor Orr knew exactly what she was saying when she said Republicans need a person of strong moral character and principles – it’s not as if it was a throwaway comment.

  3. I never said Kramer supported Fischer — but that he has said he is waiting for another candidate beyond Bruning or Stenberg.

    Whoo, the feathers are ruffling this afternoon!

    😉

  4. Bruning's Money says:

    I’m starting to wonder if Jon Bruning bought Leavenworth Street. New site, change of tone in the writing. And apparently whoever runs this site is sticking with Bruning’s talking points that he’s the last, best and only hope of the GOP. Joker.

  5. Hater? says:

    It is downright INSULTING to suggest that anyone who supports someone other than Bruning are either anti-Bruning (Haters) or pro-Nelson. Let’s apply that logic – when Jon Bruning supported Tom Osborne for Governor, he was a “hater” and anti-Heineman.

    Voters deserve a choice. Deb Fischer offers something the other two candidates don’t – leadership (not the punchline kind), and a commitment to principles over politics.

  6. Yes, Haters.
    There are those out there that hate Jon Bruning.
    Now I don’t know how the kidz out there are using that word, but that’s the context here.
    And, unless you completely missed what I wrote, Yes, I think Deb Fischer could be great. But until she pulls in enough money to make a credible campaign, I don’t think that simply blasting away at Bruning or Stenberg helps.

    And tell me again what the Bruning — or Stenberg — talking points are again?
    Until another well funded candidate comes along — and that could be Fischer or even Fort — then YES, Bruning has the best chance.

    And YOU are joking if you think otherwise.

  7. Get out of the Tank! says:

    SS,

    I have to concur with several other posters here. Your link to the Bruning press office couldn’t be more apparent. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were in-charge down there and just moonlighted on Leavenworth Street on slow news days.

    Here is another perspective for your readers. Getting rid of Benedict Nelson is priority one for many Nebraskans, Republicans in particular. Unfortunately, a vocal minority (including you) believe that Bruning represents the best and only chance for that to occur. What they fail to see is that the blind ambition and opportunism they deplore in Sen Nelson exists in their ‘heir apparent’ to the GOP nomination. Bruning has been calculating a run for Senate or Governor since the day he was sworn in as A.G. Decisions he has made in that capacity have been impacted by what it appears Gov Orr was referring to as ‘political consequences’ rather than whether they were ‘the right thing to do’.

    Bruning has never faced a serious challenger in eight years so these political calculations have gone either unnoticed or unreported. He knows it, Sen Nelson knows it, and eventually the voters will know it. Those of us who want the party to have the best possible chance to defeat Nelson simply prefer that when the voters finally catch on, it is in the primary where there is still a viable alternative rather than making easy fodder for Nelson in the general election.

    If you need me to run down to Bruning HQ and cover for you while you respond, let me know.

  8. KayOrrfan says:

    Street Sweeper, your readers don’t have to do ALL your work for you, but since you’ve asked, check some of your previous post(s) about Kay Orr. I’m sure you’ll find something that looks a little less like a mug shot.

  9. Anonymous says:

    I don’t think that’s a bad photo of Kay Orr, other than the hair is a bit wierd. My question is, why has Kay Orr re-surfaced after 15-20 yrs out of the limelight. Anybody got an answer to that one?

  10. AngryPeople,
    Please note the new photo of Kay Orr up.
    I frankly didn’t think the other was that bad, but this one should pacify all.
    And btw, I’m ALWAYS looking for better and more photos of pols, so if you have ’em, send ’em.
    SS

  11. KayOrrfan says:

    That’s actually a very nice picture. It’s too bad Jon Bruning and Don Stenberg don’t have pictures like that with Reagan. Thanks for doing some homework, Street Sweeper.

  12. Tiny Johnson says:

    I think the folks are missing the most damning indictment of Bruning and Stenberg from former Governor Orr – that she supports Deb Fischer but…hasnt actually spoken to her yet.

    Wow. If Governor Orr’s favorite candidate for Senate is someone she hasn’t yet spoken to about the Senate, that’s a pretty slappy criticism of the two in the race.

  13. Too many Cooks spoil the Bruning Broth says:

    Tank,

    It is really much simpler than you make it out to be. Forget that GOP purist mumbo-jumbo. Take the 2006 primary where Stenberg was outspent 15-1. He’ll get at least 36% again. Then, recruit Texas Annie for all I care but giver her 500K to spend so she gets the 16% Kramer captured. Finally, toss Flynn a gratuitous 5% (because, hey Nabity even got that against Heineman and Osborne) and you can see why the Bruning propaganda machine is in high gear with this ‘don’t hurt our best chance to defeat Nelson’ drivel.

    There is only 43% of the vote left in this 4-way scenario except Stenberg isn’t going to be outspent by Bruning by 15-1, and a viable 4th candidate from the 3rd District (Sen Fischer or otherwise) will pull more than the 16% Kramer got in 2006. Suddenly Bruning is in the high 30s fighting for 2nd place. While that will win you something at the county fair, it doesn’t in politics.

  14. Grundle King says:

    Perhaps we should be focusing less on Kay Orr and more on the woman she endorses, eh? Let’s give that a try.

    Now Kay says that she wants a person, “who will place principle ahead of political calculation,” and that, “there is too little consideration of (whether) this is the right thing to do, the principled thing to do.”

    Fair enough…but is attempting to raid the voter-installed Nebraska Environmental Trust fund, simply because the NET wanted to use some of that money to buy land that SHE wanted, now considered a “principled thing to do”??? I don’t happen to believe it is, and I don’t believe that state senators should be working to usurp the authority of the Nebraska voters. I don’t believe the idea behind the Nebraska Environmental Trust Act was to subsidize irrigation. It was put there to protect the environment, and ensure treasures like the Snake River and Smith Falls remain protected and accessible to the citizens of this state.

  15. Dennis says:

    I don’t anticipate that the general election in Lincoln will get competitive because the GOP candidate is so weak. In any event, you should send a correspondent to Lincoln to evaluate the depth and knowledge that Ms. Buffington has regarding the issues. I will buy your correspondent lunch at the restaurant of his/her choice if they come down here. Please let me know.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Kay Orr is a snore. Nelson shows himself for trying to be a master of political spin by running his salary sacrifice up the flagpole when he should be with all the rest trying to hammer out a plan for what should never come to this point. Talk about ineptness in governing to fail to come up with a budget after all these many months.

    As an aside, why isn’t the “leadership” in this city stepping up to the plate to voice…..”leadership” during a whole week of violence and shooting? Omaha’s next mayor needs to be making an early start to question the noticeable gap. You’d think someone in some elected office would be screaming outrage and coming up with a plan to try and end what unattended will grow far worse.

  17. Better idea? says:

    Grundle King- “Subsidize irrigation”? Seriously? I mean you say you’re from Lincoln, but surely you understand a little something about Nebraska’s ag economy? At least Senator Fischer recognizes that Nebraska has some responsibilities with regard to water and isn’t just counting on the fact that her term will be over before they surface. If you don’t like her bill – how would you address our water obligation? Do away with crop farming? Cut everything east of Grand Island off and give it to Colorado?

    Oh yea – and – she IS principled on the NET-buying-land front – if they purchased it, it would make her own real estate more valuable. She opposed it on principle.

  18. Kortezzi says:

    If David Kramer is a Deb Fischer supporter, that’s enough for me to be against her.

    Used to like him. But that guy blew away all his credibility as a Republican when he decided to demagogue the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative (the anti-racial quotas thing). If Deb Fischer supports affirmative action like Kramer does, that might explain why he’s expressed interest in her.

  19. Anonymous says:

    IF Fischer get’s into the race it will be to Stenberg’s disadvantage as they will split the “Western” vote. This can only help Bruning, and he knows it. What people aren’t talking about are the dynamics in the legislature should Fischer enter the race, and she is thinking about it. See if I recall correctly Sen McCoy and about 10 other Senators got behind Bruning very early and publicly. Will they play nice in the sand box if Fischer is running? How many of them will work against her “Legacy” roads bill? Not to mention the Gov has no particular love for the guy who endorsed Osborne. Of course it puts the Gov in a special spot too. The Gov already said he doesn’t like the Fischer roads bill so there is a VETO waiting there. Me thinks it will get pretty messy should Fischer throw her name in the race. Her best bet is to wait it out and maybe run against Smith.

  20. Out West says:

    @Anonymous at 10:43 PM,

    If Fischer gets into the Senate race, she won’t be splitting the “Western” vote with Stenberg. Stenberg and Bruning will be splitting the Eastern vote. The real issues in the Legislature aren’t Republican -v- Democrat, they are Rural -v- Urban. Any rural member of the Legislature who votes against Fischer’s road bill does so at their own peril. No rural member who plans to run for reelection will vote against it. There is a lot of anger in the Third District over the fact that we missed out on any of the stimulus funds for roads because there were no “shovel ready” projects, even though a number of roads have been in the planning stage for many years. The Governor can veto Fischer’s road bill, but she’ll still own the issue.

    Fischer is not going to run against Adrian Smith. Running against a Republican incumbent would be pointless. She can run for Senate, and if she doesn’t win it will gain her enough name recognition to put her in a good position to run for Governor in 2014.

  21. Lil Mac says:

    Perceptive comments here about Affirmative Action. Within or apart from politics, it is an awful thing that works to cripple the legs of those who most need strength to stand. Affirmative Action gives away free crutches that turn the weak-but-able into crippled vote slaves or, at very least, obedient followers. My God but that is un-American.

    Too many people confuse this with Equal Opportunity, which is what makes America great. Affirmative Action is the awful opposite. This modern Forty Acres and a Mule cripples under the guise of helping. Of course, not all minority Americans swallow that crap. But it is sweet crap. Like selling benevolent dictatorship, there are always plenty of people willing to give away their individual freedoms, because freedom is hard work, in exchange for a free cookie from a benevolent daddy.

    It’s human nature. We all fight this battle within ourselves, i.e. to do the hard good thing of being free or go the easy cookie way of being owned. But thank God if we are lucky enough to be born so we don’t have the entire United States Federal Government telling us that our “race” makes us so perpetually weak, so eternally less-than-human, so subnormal, that we are forever to be given a set of crutches because of the color of our skin. Affirmative Action is worse than un-American. Its inhuman.

  22. anonymous says:

    Uh, Kay Orr was irrelevant in the mid-90’s, let alone now in 2011. And Deb Fischer is unknown, even in the 3rd. Do you really think Joe Republican in North Platte or Minden or McCook has a clue who she is? Think again.

  23. Legislative Dynamics says:

    Out West- Wake up and smell the coffee.

    The “west” will lose at least one seat if not two to the “urban” area of Omaha. At least 2/3rd’s of the state’s population, if not more, live east of the Capitol bldg. The rual caucus is losing their death grip this go round in redisticting as it is. Couple that with the fact Grand Island is growing rapidly and you have a perfect storm for the marginalization of “greater” Nebraska. Douglas county has 13 Senators (Langemeier is rual), Sarpy has three on the way to four, then there is Lincoln with 8, and of course G/I. All it takes is 25 to pass a law. But we digress.

    Voting for LB84 is only 1/2 the battle. See if the Gov vetos the bill then the real nut cutting begins. While Fischer will pick up points with folks out west she will expend capital in process. Will Sen McCoy continue his perfect record of supporting the Gov at the expense of his seat mates? As McCoy goes so too do at least 5-8 others who are wanting to curry his favor. So the ramifications of the bill reach further than just does the bill pass on the next round. Besides the comment in the earlier post was about how McCoy and others stood behind Bruning and endorsed him from day one. Do you see the undercurrent now? It will be interesting to see how McCoy and others wiggle when having to choose either Bruning, their first choice, or someone else because the Governor isn’t a Bruning fan. As a matter of simple politics this pits McCoy against the Governor as it is now. Again, it will be interesting to see just what happens over the next 6 months as those who are going to run need to get it in gear to catch up to Bruning.

  24. Out West says:

    @Legislative Dynamics,

    It looked to me like, Anonymous April 8, 2011 at 10:43 PM, was speaking of the Senate race in next years Republican Primary. Is that also your post?

    The rural areas of the state lost any death grip they had on the Legislature years ago. That doesn’t have a lot to do with partisan politics. As I pointed out before, issues in the Legislature end up becoming urban -v- rural. The rural members in the Legislature make all their gains making deals in disputes between Omaha and Lincoln. They do have enough clout to tip the balance of power in those situations.

    I’ll concede that 2/3rd’s of Nebraska’s population probably live east of the Capitol building if that makes you happy. But that isn’t an issue in a Republican Primary. If you think that Omaha and Lincoln own the Republican Party in Nebraska you’re delusional. It isn’t going to matter where they draw the lines for Congressional Districts or Legislative Districts when it comes to the votes in next years Republican Primary vote for U.S. Senate. The most recent hotly contested race in a state-wide Republican Primary was when Dave Heineman defeated Tom Osborne in the Governor’s race in 2006. Osborne out polled Heineman in both Omaha and Lincoln, but in spite of the fact that Osborne was the sitting Congressman in the 3rd District, Heineman out polled him in the 3RD with enough extra votes to win the nomination. Omaha and Lincoln may own the Legislature, but rural Nebraska still holds the balance of power in the Nebraska Republican Party.

    If Senator McCoy expects to move up in politics in Nebraska he won’t be voting against LB 84. He can’t afford to alienate 40% to 50% of the voters in a state-wide Republican Primary. I’m sure Speaker Flood, Senator McCoy and Governor Heineman have counted the votes in advance, and can depend on the bill passing with a small enough majority that the Governor’s veto will stand. Senator Fischer now owns the issue. The Governor’s veto won’t change that. The real question now is, can Senator Fischer leverage the issue enough to win the nomination for the U.S. Senate, and does she want to try.

  25. RWP says:

    Big problem is, I have no idea yet where Fischer or Bruning stand on actual issues. Show me where they differ, and I’ll make a choice.

    As for Affirmative Action; Stenberg was willing to take a stand for NCRI when the rest of the state GOP straddled the fence or (like Kramer) actually worked against it. He took the case pro bono. For that he should have our gratitude. But it should be noted that Bruning’s office was willing to force the U Nebraska Regents to obey the law when they illegally railroaded through a resolution opposing NCRI. So I’d score Stenberg a +1.0 on that issue and Bruning maybe a + 0.3.

  26. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Just to clarify the issue of population a bit – according to the 2010 Census data there are 1.826,341 Nebraskans – 408,958 of them live in Omaha while 667,337 of them live in Lincoln. If the math my good Nebraskan teachers taught me still works, then it appears that 63% of Nebraskans live outside of the city boundaries of Lincoln and Omaha. Some of us consider anything outside of Lincoln and Omaha to be rural. Others would include anyone living in a community of 5,000 or more to be “metropolitan.”
    Regardless of how one counts, the major economic driver in this state is agriculture. Anyone that disregards that is ignorant. The “metropolitan” voters that have a problem with that will just have to live with the consequences of their delusion.

  27. GOP Has Problems says:

    It is going around that because Pat McPherson keeps trashing GOP contributor favorite Dave Nabity in his blog all of the big donors are going to cut the GOP off.

    So, Pat McPherson, NEGOP officer who supported Nelson over Ricketts, hates Heineman, Bruning and practically every other Republican he is jealous of will now kill the ability of the party to raise money because his feelings are hurt…again?

    Hey, Nabity is what he is…but McPherson is what he is too. At least Nabity puts his money where his mouth is.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Sure Stenberg is right on the issues. 90% of people sitting in any GOP group are right on the issues. Few are fit for high office. Don was good at being chief lawyer in Nebraska. Bruning is too. But Bruning hasn’t often stepped wrong in a candidacy sense. And how well you run is a good indicator of how well you serve. Deem his motives whatever you wish, i.e. political wisdom, foresight, a burning desire not to commit suicide, etc. The point is, Bruning hasn’t often stepped wrong and poor Don Stenberg has a tendency to dive headfirst into the shallow end of the pool.

    Stenberg has wasted a mountain of GOP donated dollars by losing a lot of races. He has been rejected by Nebraskans but mostly Stenberg has been rejected by Nebraska Republicans. For whatever reasons we may attribute those times when Don jumped when he should have ducked, the fact is he is damaged goods because he is a hamfisted campaigner who leads with his face.

  29. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Off topic, but worth sharing …
    I just got an email from a friend of mine in Colorado. I’m certain that this is one of those things that has been going around the internet tubes for a while now, but this is the first time I’ve seen it. I’ve got to say, this idea does have some merit.
    —- —- —-
    The Fix
    There recently was an article in the St. Petersburg , Fl. Times. The Business Section asked readers for ideas on: “How Would You Fix the Economy?” I think this guy nailed it!
    Dear Mr. President,
    Please find below my suggestion for fixing America ‘s economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.
    You can call it the “Patriotic Retirement Plan”:
    There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:
    1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings – Unemployment fixed.
    2) They MUST buy a new AMERICAN Car. Forty million cars ordered – Auto Industry fixed.
    3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis fixed.
    It can’t get any easier than that!!
    P.S. If more money is needed, have all members in Congress pay their taxes..
    Mr. President, while you’re at it, make Congress retire on Social Security and Medicare. I’ll bet both programs would be fixed pronto!
    —- —- —-
    And it would only cost $40 Million? Wow!!! That’s cheap!

  30. Brian T. Osborn says:

    They could expand on that, giving every single American a million bucks, and it would cost less than a third of a billion. That would be chump change compared to what they’ve gifted to their Wall St. pals, but it would change America overnight. The corporate piggies would go wee, wee, wee all the way home, but really, what better way to put the determination of America’s economic future back in the hands of those that paid for it.

  31. Brian T. Osborn says:

    I don’t know how I wound up watching Fox News Sunday this morning, but I did. Chris Wallace seemed to be questioning the whole Republican stance on Planned Parenthood. He pointed out to House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor, that only 3% of PP’s funding goes to abortion, and that most of their efforts go toward helping women combat such things as cervical and breast cancer. Cantor mumbled something about (and I paraphrase), “but … but … but … abortion is bad!”
    I don’t understand why the GOP is so willing to toss out the baby with the bath water. Can anyone offer me a rational explanation?

  32. anon says:

    @GOP has problems-
    First, McPherson didn’t support Nelson over Ricketts, he supported Kleeb over Johanns. He even had a Kleeb sign in his yard.
    The runblings about contributors backing off the GOP and giving to other groups is true. They see the influence people like McPherson have had and the lack of results. Then they also see them blaming everyone else for their failures.
    Just take a look at the petty attacks on Nabity on McPherson’s blog the Objective Conservative. They serve no purpose other than sooth McPherson’s ego and are now pissing people with deep pockets off.
    Thanks Pat!

  33. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Anon @ 11:47,
    Please explain then: why they would defund a system that predominately oversees the health of the MOTHERS? If the mothers die, the babies do too. Planned Parenthood also tends to the health of those babies AFTER they are born. Planned Parenthood also helps young women to have alternatives to abortion as a means of birth control. It is so obvious to me that anyone that wants to defund Planned Parenthood gives a rat’s ass about the health of the LIVING.
    The entire abortion issue is one based on emotion. If abortion were made illegal, the wealthy would go back to having them while “on vacation” in Europe, and the poor would return to risking their lives at the end of a rusty coathanger – just as it was before Roe vs. Wade.
    I would prefer that abortions be safe and RARE.

  34. Sweetwater Woods says:

    Brian,

    I was sorry to see you cheer Planned Parenthood and their abortions. I thought that since you served in the militarly overseas, that you were there protecting the rights of EVERY American. Perhaps only some. Brian, it’s like the sign I saw today between Yutan and Wahoo…..”Everyone deserves a birthday!”

    I would support Planned Parenthood too if they would just quit killing babies.

  35. Brian T. Osborn says:

    I would just hope that your daughter was impregnated by a syphilitic heroin addict so that you could prove just how deep your conviction really is Sweetie.

  36. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Sweetie,
    I would be more likely to sympathize with your concerns if you weren’t so damned hung up on the lives of the unborn while giving a rat’s ass about those already breathing. Personally, I agree with the Jewish philosophy that considers life to begin with the first breath, but, since I don’t own a uterus, I consider it to really be none of my business. So … 97% of what Planned Parenthood does is good, but you’re willing to toss it all in the crapper because you don’t like 3% of what they do. I’d sure hate to see the world we’d be living in if you got to have your way, given your criteria, on everything else. It would certainly be a scorched earth policy, now wouldn’t it?

  37. Macdaddy says:

    Give 40 million people a million bucks each and it only costs $40 million? I think somebody needs to try a lower altitude before they do math.

  38. Brian T. Osborn says:

    MacDaddy,
    Re: $40M … I refer you to my comment at 12:48.
    Re: Sweetie’s daughter … I have no idea whether or not Sweetie HAS a daughter, since he/she/it remains an anonymous turd, as do you. Therefore his/her/its shield of anonymity precludes any possible damage. Oh, and my comment should have read … “RAPED and impregnated by a syphilitic heroin addict.”

  39. There must be an algorithm for (length post has been up) x (number of comments) = (arguing about what commenter REALLY meant) / (fecal references) = sq root of (Hitler reference) pi (New Deal).

    I’m working on it.

  40. Brian T. Osborn says:

    OK, Sweeper, I get it. I’ll get back on topic.
    Do Kay Orr and Ben Nelson go to the same hair dresser?

    ‘Mrs. “O,”‘ From the fool’s gold mouthpiece the hollow horn plays wasted words, proves to warn that he not busy being born is busy dying. So don’t fear if you hear a foreign sound to your ear. It’s alright, Ma, I’m only sighing.

  41. Mike Honcho says:

    So we’re to believe that “major” GOP donors are shunning the party because Pat McPherson is blogging about Dave Nabity? I guess paying Chip Maxwell to sit and blog all day means he has to start somewhere.

  42. Greg says:

    @BTO Dang man I didn’t know that Lincoln was bigger than Omaha in the last census. Maybe the legislature should quit picking on Omaha since it is not the big bully in Nebraska anymore.
    You probably just have the cities switched around, but still, check yo facts homie!!!

  43. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Of course you’re right, Greg, but this is just a blog, not a scholarly paper. That’s why I generally overlook others’ brain farts. As I get older they occur with much greater frequency and scope. But the fact remains – rural Nebraska is not to be ignored.

  44. Grundle King says:

    Re: Better idea?

    Yes, I understand the impact agriculture has on our state’s economy. I may be in Lincoln, but I grew up smack dab in central Nebraska just a few miles from the Platte River. I have seen first hand the toll that over-irrigating has taken on that river. Over the past several years, much of it has routinely run dry while farmers continue to sink pivots on ever-more marginal ground. I know the farmers need to make a profit, having worked for more than a few in my day…but at what cost? While they’ve sunk well after well into the aquifer to squeeze out a few more dollars, the river has suffered.

    So now, after the farmers have drunk the river dry, along comes Sen. Fisher to help bail them out? I certainly am NOT calling for an end to irrigated farming, but I believe that the farmers who have profited from it do have some obligation to address the problem. I do not believe that raiding a cash fund meant to conserve and restore natural habitat for wildlife and for the enjoyment of this state’s residents to pay is the best way to go about the problem, and I certainly don’t believe that picking up the tab for irrigation is what folks had in mind when they established the NETF.

    Look at the farmers who depend on releases from Big Mac…thoughout this last drought cycle, they routinely saw their water deliveries cut drastically to ensure flows downstream. Meanwhile, what did the groundwater irrigators do? I didn’t see a huge push to conserve water on their part, likely because they fail (or refuse) to see the link between surface water and groundwater. I guess to answer your question, I would address Nebraska’s water obligation by mandating groundwater irrigation cut-backs during dry years. If the NETF is used for projects involving the Platte River, it should be related to exterminating phragmites, reed canarygrass, purple loosestrife, and salt cedar.

    And if she opposed the Snake River deal on principle, could you please inform us all of just which principle that was? That scenic treasures like the Snake River should be inaccessible to the unwashed masses, i.e. the general public?

  45. Brian T. Osborn says:

    Grundle, I wish Sweeper would let us post photos here. I just crossed the bridge over the Platte south of Elm Creek this weekend and it has more water flowing down it than I’ve ever seen. I understand they’re letting it out of Lake McConaughy as fast as they can before the overabundance of snow in the mountains melts. The drought is over, but it will be back, and we do need a better system for regulating it, but if you shut off the farmers, please turn the lights off in Nebraska as you leave, because everyone else will already be gone.

  46. Cigar Smoker says:

    If the farmers use it, the farmers should pay for it. Does it affect the rest of the state economy? Of course it does, but the farmers already get enough in federal sibsidies, they dont need more state subsidies. As it is now the whole state is going to be forced to pay for farmers along the Platte and Republican Rivers using more than they’re allowed.

  47. Cigar Smoker says:

    I would like to get that subsidy too. Of course, I would like to be able to grow marijuana and use it, but thats another topic for another time.

  48. Sweetwater Woods says:

    BTO….your rant, including comments about any possible members of my family, is exactly the reason that I, and many others on this site, choose to remain anomyous. This is a dangerous world, and the safety of my family is paramount……so if I continue to post here in the future, it will continue to be anomyously.

  49. Grundle King says:

    Yes, the Platte has a ton of water in it right now…mostly because of planning ahead for the spring thaw, and also because nobody is irrigating!

    Again, I’m not talking about ‘shutting the farmers off’, I’m talking about a little reduction in consumption here and there, or at least more efficient consumption. You can’t tell me that every acre under the Nebraska sun needs to be put into corn production, and while I believe it’s the farmer’s choice to use their land to suit their needs, I just think it would be nice if they’d consider the needs of the rest of us sometimes, too.

    After all, you and Jane Kleeb won’t have to worry about contaminating the aquifer if it dries up.

    Disclaimer: That last sentence was a wild exaggeration. The point is that the Ogallala Aquifer faces a much more widespread threat, both from over-use and agricultural contamination than from one oil pipeline.

  50. Dennis says:

    Mitt Romney has announced his bid for POTUS. Massachusetts now has the lowest rate of uninsured citizens in the nation. Only 4% of Massachusetts’ residents lack health insurance. Mitt, Thank you for your leadership on this issue!

  51. Macdaddy says:

    Don’t worry, Sweetwater, BTO was just protecting the rights of your female family members to have an abortion. Hoping they get raped to get you to see things his way is just SOP for the pro-abortion crowd. After all, this is a crowd that didn’t bat an eye over child prostitution.

  52. Brian T. Osborn says:

    SweetH20, Sorry that your tender sensibilities couldn’t withstand my typical lack of respect for anonymous poo tossers.

    Grundle, You’re right, we do need to formulate a more sane water usage policy in this state. As for Jane Kleeb, hell, I’m on her shit list too, she doesn’t appreciate my warped sense of humor. That’s something she shares with Vic Covalt, among others.
    Actually, the more probable danger to the Ogallala Aquifer will come from an over application of chemicals directly to the fields and the incredible concentration of animal waste that seeps into the soil under our feedlots. There are several “hot spots” around Nebraska where there have been recorded unusually high incidences of cancer and other life-threatening illnesses. Many of them are attributable to inconsiderate farming/ranching practices.
    Now … about your last post. You are a freaking monkey poop tosser. The fabricated charges over child prostitution that you obviously are referring to has been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to have been falsified. Just because some winger rabble-rouser lies and edits material out of context doesn’t make it the truth. Why do you insist on spreading lies?
    Hell, I could find out your real name, where you live, etc., if I really wanted to, then place child porn on your computer and have you convicted. For an old techie like me, it ain’t that hard to do. You’re lucky that, although I am a snarky, confrontational S.O.B., I do have some moral principles. Were I just another anonymouse, you might have something to worry about.

  53. Cigar Smoker says:

    Mac
    Yes that is exactly it. Liberals want to force all underage girls to get raped and then force them to get abortions because it makes us all feel warm and fuzzy. We’re also going to take pictures of the act, post them all over the internet and make those required viewing in all public schools. That is how we roll folks.

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