Nebraska or DC?

Governor Dave Heineman has another big decision to make on Friday.

Heineman will have to decide, by Friday, whether or not Nebraska will create its own Health Care Exchange under ObamaCare, or cede that authority to the Federal Government. The split on this issue is about the same as it was a few months back.

Many had hoped the states’ Governors wouldn’t have to make this call if Mitt Romney was elected President. That changed last week. As Mike Johanns has said, ObamaCare is the law of the land. You don’t have to like it. But you, and the Governors, DO have to follow the law.

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So the question of state Exchanges is the next big thing. Basically it’s this: If you don’t have health insurance, you’ll need to buy it. One of the ways for it to be available will be through a government run Exchange (via a website or other means) that will basically allow you to shop for various plans and purchase one.

But here’s the thing. The state can run the Exchange, and everyone in the state who needs to buy through the government site will use that. Or, the state can decide to let the Federal government run the Exchange, and everyone in the state who needs to use will go by that method.

But here’s the deal: This is all just beginning. There are bound to be hiccups in the system: problems, issues and loads and loads of whatnot. Some Exchanges are going to do a better job than others. People will be learning all along the way.

So the question becomes, who would you like to go to if there is a problem in the system? Someone from Nebraska or someone in Washington, D.C? Would you like to get assistance in Lincoln, or from some federal building half a country away?

Who is likely to adjust to nuances in Nebraska? Who will know the differences between someone in Alliance and someone in Omaha? Who is more likely to care?

Who is more likely to set up a system that meets the needs of Nebraskans? Someone in DC or someone in Lincoln? (That’s whatcha call one a them rhetorical questions.)

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Now some of the Tea Party groups argue that only big insurance companies and big health care and people who want to profit want the Nebraska Exchanges. And they are certainly involved.

And…uh…so what? That facts remain the same. Either you pick Nebraska to do it or you pick the Feds. Those are your choices.

The Tea Partiers have some sort of argument that goes, If you let the Feds do it, they will screw it up and run out of money and pretty soon, Voila! No more ObamaCare!

Yeah. Because if we know anything, the Federal Government won’t throw more and more money at something they’ve screwed up. No, they’ll just close down the new bureaucracy, throw up their hands and say, “Whoops!”

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So here is a list of some groups and companies and people who are in FAVOR of a Nebraska based Exchange:

Alegent Health
Ameritas Life Insurance Corp.
Anthony C. Buechler, Buechler Insurance Services
Baltzell Insurance & Consulting
Benaissance, Inc
Benefit Administrators, Inc.
Bettenhausen Insurance Services, Lincoln
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Nebraska
Bob Grundman, Senior Benefit Strategies
Dr. Bob Rauner, MD, MPH, Lincoln
Cherry County Hospital, Valentine
CHI Nebraska
Garvey & Associates Grace
Grace/Mayer Insurance Agency
Greater Omaha Chamber
Harold Krueger, CEO, Chadron Community Hospital
Independent Insurance Agents of Nebraska
J.J. Green, President, Primark Insurance Agency
Kelly Cormaci, RHU, NP Dodge Insurance
Kolterman Agency Inc, Seward
Kutak Rock LLP
Les McGerr & Company, Lincoln
Marcotte Insurance Agency
Mary Ann Borgeson, Douglas County Commissioner
Midlands Financial Benefits
Mueller Robak Law Firm
National Association of Insurance & Financial Advisors – Nebraska
Nebraska Academy of Family Physicians
Nebraska Association of Health Underwriters
Nebraska Association of Home and Community Health Agencies
Nebraska Center for Healthy Families
Nebraska Dental Association
Nebraska Hospital Association
Nebraska Medical Association
Nebraska Nurses Association
Nebraska Nurse Practitioners
Nebraska Optometric Association
Nebraska Organization for Nurse Leaders
Nebraska Pharmacists Association
Nebraska Physical Therapy Association
Paul Utemark, CEO, Fillmore County Hospital
Preferred Marketing Associates, Omaha
Ray Pilakowski, Columbus
R.C. Schropp Associates
Scott Stevens, NP Dodge Insurance Agency
SilverStone Group
Stefano Tarantolo, MD
Steve Albin, President, United Benefit Services, Inc.
Swartzbaugh-Farber & Associates, Inc.
Terrie Spohn, APRN, FNP-BC, Multi-State Reimbursement, Alliance
Wells Fargo Insurance Services USA, Inc.

And another to add to that list: Nebraska Taxpayers for Freedom

And while there are Republicans and Democrats who favor a Nebraska Exchange, there are still vast differences between them on how it should be set up within the state (and who should run it). So if your goal is to fight with Democrats, there is still plenty to fight about.

But the fight about whether ObamaCare is the law is over. Now the question becomes, who do you want to run it?

We just don’t find the answer to that question to be very difficult.

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From Don Walton’s interview with Governor Dave in the LJS:

He’s all-in for Lt. Gov. Rick Sheehy’s 2014 gubernatorial bid and will campaign for him as well as share his own extensive campaign contributor list.

and

A “big-idea” tax reform proposal designed to make Nebraska more competitive for job creation and economic growth is being carefully formulated, and “everything is still on the table,” including the possibility of eliminating the state income tax.

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**UPDATE 11/15/12 2:15pm**

Statement from Governor Heineman:

Gov. Heineman on Federal Health Care Law: $646 Million State Exchange Too Costly

State of Nebraska to Participate in Federal Health Exchange
(Lincoln, Neb.) Health Insurance Exchange (pdf) – Gov. Dave Heineman today announced that he has submitted Nebraska’s affirmative election to participate in the federal health insurance exchange, citing the extreme cost differential that ultimately the Nebraska taxpayer would have to incur.

“I want to share with Nebraskans that I have listened to all sides of this issue,” said Gov. Heineman. “As Governor, my focus is on implementing the federal health care law in the most efficient and cost effective manner for Nebraskans and their families.”

Whether a state runs a health exchange, or that is done by the federal government, all citizens will have the option to purchase insurance policies through an exchange. A state decision either way does not affect that access.

The Governor appreciates the input he received from a variety of perspectives throughout the course of the several years since the federal health care law was enacted in March 2010. While there were diverse and emotional opinions on this issue, the Governor stated that his decision is based on what is best for Nebraska’s hard-working, middle class taxpayers.

Fiscal analysis of budget impacts done by the Department of Insurance and the Department of Health and Human Services calculate the cost of a state insurance exchange for Fiscal Years 2013-2020 at $646 million; while the cost of a federal insurance exchange is $176 million. The cost of a state exchange to Nebraska taxpayers is $470 million more than a federal exchange.

The analysis encompasses costs associated with building, managing and maintaining a state-based exchange. These costs include, but are not limited to: website development, call center operations, an insurance premium billing system, staffing, equipment, supplies, office space, and the technology costs related to each of these functions. In addition, these costs include expenses necessary for the exchange to interface with the Medicaid program, in accordance with requirements of the federal law.

“The reality is that the federal health care law is being totally dictated and totally controlled by the federal government,” the Governor added. “On the key issues, there is no real operational difference between a federal exchange and a state exchange. A state exchange is nothing more than the state administering the Affordable Care Act with all of the important and critical decisions made by the federal government.”

The Affordable Care Act calls for the creation of health insurance exchanges, state-run or federal-run markets where households and small businesses can shop for private coverage. Governors have a Nov. 16 deadline to indicate their intent to establish a state-based exchange. If a state does not elect to run a state-based exchange, then the health exchange will be implemented by the federal government.

According to the federal law, open enrollment is scheduled to begin for health exchange plans Oct. 1, 2013. Any exchange is expected to be fully operational on Jan. 1, 2014.

Oh well. Whaddaya gonna do? We always figured the price of the whole thing was going to be a big consideration.
Silver lining?
At least the Governor pissed off Jane Kleeb again.

129 comments

  1. I have no clue says:

    I have no clue what any of this means, but I’m against it. I seriously don’t understand the actual economic ramifications of implementing an Exchange (either way, good or bad), but I’ll sure as hell draw a line in the sand to be against it.

    States rights, man. Where is the weed…

  2. TexasAnnie says:

    Actually it’s a good question and one y’all should take seriously. We have a governor here, also, who will not abide federal law unless he is up against the wall. In the end, it’s the profiteers who win (see Street Sweeper’s list above), while the state and it’s people lose out to overbearing regulation. One might think that a state led insurance exchange would be better because, you know, it would be closer to the people and all that. But in the case of Nebraska, and Texas too, what the feds are offering (demanding) may actually grant more consumer protection than that which Nebraska’s insurance industry is willing to concede. Remember: Nebraska law has been crafted to insure insurance profitability, not better health outcomes!

    At the very least, Nebraska law should be rewritten to eliminate all tax advantage currently owing the insurance industry. And IF the “‘big-idea tax reform’ materializes and y’all get free of your state income tax, then a goal of reigning in tax injustice will have been served.

  3. 2:58,
    If you’re willing to pay for my vacation, I’m willing to go.
    (And on the few vacations I’ve taken, I’ve continued to write on L.St — for going on 7 years now.)
    In the mean time, it’s all me baby.
    SS
    (and 2:58? get some sleep.)

  4. Interested Observer says:

    OK, there’s one thing in the list that I don’t quite understand. Our Cherry County Hospital here in Valentine is owned by Cherry County, us citizens here. It is run by our Hospital Administrator who answers to our Cherry County Hospital Board of Trustees. The Trustees are appointed by our Cherry County Board of Commissioners who are elected by the voters. So, our Trustees are government officials and are apparently now part of this discussion by virtue of their inclusion on this posted list in this posted article. One of the Trustees is Will Fischer, nephew of DEB FI$CHER and brother of political consultant Sam Fischer, who many assume is Street Sweeper.

    Why is the Cherry County Hospital here in Valentine basically the only small town hospital on the list? What’s the deal with that?

  5. Anonymous says:

    Cherry county hospitial is owned by the people So its socialism. Its not private so its socialism. Socialism is BAD. So say the tea party people. Which happens to be the majority of Cherry County. So why do the Tea Party of Cherry county like socialism so much? Very confused? What does our now Senator Fischer feel about this socialism? She has to express an opinion on a lot of things now. She can’t just say Obama care bad, low taxes good, like the sheep of Animal Farm when they are bleating the party line.

  6. Goober Natorial says:

    Well, I see our one trick pony is still hanging around doing her one trick. And, by the way, its SENATOR DEB FI$CHER.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Or the state can do nothing as there is no mechanism in the bastard law that provides a path for the Feds to push a system IN the state:) BIG PROBLEM!!!!!!

    Oh and there is the Nov 26 SCOTUS vote…….

    And the same companies and organizations making money of the system as it is now want to make money of the Obamacare system, WOW …how freaking amazing is that?

  8. Some Thoughts says:

    We’ve had this conversation several months ago, when I said we should have a Nebraska-based plan in place so that we don’t have to just accept whatever was shoved upon us. Nobody believed me because it was so obvious that Obamacare was going to go down in flames with Obama in 2012.

    I hope some of the aforementioned on the list have been working on a model for a state exchange in the meantime, and are ready to put forward proposals. I also hope that the constituencies represented are a good balance of providers, patients, and insurers, because the entities most likely to have an idea of what they want to see happen are the insurers. I don’t subscribe to the philosophy that insurance company automatically = evil, but it is true that they do not have the direct interests of the patients and providers in mind, and the ultimate “local control” group ought to be the patients and providers making as many of the decisions as possible.

  9. Interested Observer says:

    Street Sweeper, the question is still out there, “Why is the Cherry County Hospital here in Valentine basically the only small town hospital on the list? What’s the deal with that?”

  10. My guess is because ObamaCare threatened to build a fence around the other hospitals and steal their cattle while getting government subsidies because they were afraid to cross them while supporting some New York hospital.

    But I’m waiting for you to sort that all out for me.

  11. SoWhat??? says:

    The health insurance companies are pushing a state run exchange with two objectives: (1) minimize competition from outside NE; and (2) probably easier to skirt around the “health insurance companies must pay out 85% of gross policy proceeds” requirement in Obamacare. It’s their only shot to really stay in business more than just the next couple of years. If that 85% payout mandate is strictly enforced, most health insurance companies will be out of business in the next 5 years. They can’t maintain/grow the capital required to stay in operation on a 15% gross margin. Then we get the progressives objective all along…single payer Federal government health insurance aka Medicare for all. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America folks.

  12. RWP says:

    You left a couple of groups off the list

    Nebraska Appleseed
    Nebraska Demicratic Party

    I’m sure I can come up with several others similar.

    Locals involved in the health insurance industry love the idea of the exchanges because local officials are cheaper and easier to bribe, er I mean lobby. It’s a classic example of how business, particularly big business, often favors regulation, because it eliminates competition.

  13. Interested Observer says:

    My guess is that YOU wrote the article and YOU included the Cherry County Hospital for some reason, I’m just asking YOU why YOU did that?

  14. IO,
    This is a list of groups that are a part of the Nebraska Health Care Alliance, which is in favor of the exchanges.
    It is a public list.
    They have themselves one a them “web-sites” on the internets.
    (It’s a series a tubes.)

  15. Lil Mac says:

    So… healthcare companies are crooked in Nebraska but not at a national level? Folks, this is damage control. Crap hit the fan a long time ago. Quit looking for a clean spot to sit.

    It appears wise to keep power as close to home as possible, here in Nebraska. The counter argument is to disengage and do nothing and hope Obamacare fails. That seems like letting Obama snip off our nose to spite our face. The power to wield arms in this is being divvied up and states that say “no”, because they think that by not engaging that will somehow force Obamacare to fold, seems delusional.

    History repeats. Obama’s silver tongue and his loyal Eric Holder spying on federal leaders, while Obama vacations up alibis to insulate himself, effectively consolidates and maintains his power. We saw a pair like that in a former century. And there too, pompous national leaders ridiculed them and thier national solutions as small and inept and stupid and smugly waited for them to fail to manage the country. They managed their country into the ground.

    To hope that Obama and Holder will fail because they are stupid, is stupid. Holder selling sniper rifles to drug cartels is as dumb as believing in the occult. And Obama without high school math trying to solve economic problems is as stupid as if he believed himself to be an architect. Yet stupidity is no bar to power. So don’t hold your breath waiting for them to crap out.

    We must work within the law, even as these men are perhaps breaking it. If so, both can be impeached. But that’s not the question today. We keep some influence for NE or we leave it all to them. A grim choice. But you cannot oppose this thing by hunkering down in your basement.

  16. Anonymous says:

    This just in from Lil Mac’s outpost in his mother’s basement – “But you cannot oppose this thing by hunkering down in your basement.”

  17. to IO & RWP says:

    to IO: The Nebraska Healthcare Alliance also includes the hospital administrators from Chadron, and Geneva. It also includes the Nebraska Hospital Association which represents every hospital in Nebraska.

    TO RWP:

    Yes Appleseed and the social justice folks have another coalition, but they do not belong to the NHCA.

  18. This was particularly hilarious…”One of the Trustees is Will Fischer, nephew of DEB FI$CHER and brother of political consultant Sam Fischer, who many assume is Street Sweeper.”

    OMIGAWD…her nephew! Holy crap!

    And just how many people, in your world, constitutes “many”? I mean, we know that you said “many” of the people in Deb’s own district didn’t like her…which was clearly demonstrated when Deb won Cherry County and many of the surrounding counties by a margin of more than 75:25. So, I assume when you say “many”, it’s probably like 5 people.

    BTW, I am Street Sweeper (as far as you know).

    I hope I didn’t just infringe on a trademark.

  19. Macdaddy says:

    I vote for whichever way costs the least amount of money and is the least amount of work. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think that any of the real decisions will come from anywhere but DC.

  20. RWP says:

    Nope. I paid my nuclear reactor license fee first of the month.

    Plutonium’s on special until Thanksgiving, with a special 10% discount for quantities of 5 kg or more. Some guy with a long beard who keeps saying ‘allahu akbar’ is buying it up in a hurry, though, so if you want some, get your order in now.

  21. AnOnYmOuS says:

    Well THAT’S a biased post. Thank you for your opinion but shall we at least examine the other side of your argument beyond, “If you let the Feds do it, they will screw it up and run out of money and pretty soon, Voila! No more Obamacare!”

    First of all, what specific flexibility are you referring to that a state run exchange would offer over a federal exchange? There is a set of really specific requirements that state exchanges must follow and they must be approved by the feds. They come with tons of strings attached. What kind of flexibility exactly are you assuming the states would have, other than say…choosing the font?

    Then there is the issue of the fines under the employer mandate which are only triggered under state exchanges. So by refusing to implement state exchanges, we could save business owners expenses of $2,000 fines per worker over the 30th employee (for companies with over 59 employees). You want to attract new businesses to Nebraska? Seems like a pretty good way to do so to me.

    Let’s not forget that the feds forgot to appropriate money to set up federal exchanges so I’m curious as to how they plan to do so without additional funding which would be denied in the GOP controlled House?

    There are also several credible lawsuits pending challenging Obamacare on the grounds of violating the Origination Clause because the law was conceived in the Senate rather than the House where all taxes must originate. According to Article 1, Section 7, of the United States Constitution “Any legislation to create a tax to be collected by the federal government must originate in the House of Representatives.” Because SCOTUS ruled the penalty a tax, the US District Court in DC recently ruled that Pacific Legal Foundation’s argument based upon the Origination Clause can proceed forward in the court.

    Another interesting and credible legal challenge involves a suit filed by Liberty Council on behalf of Liberty University. Originally an appeals court in Richmond, Va. ruled that the Anti-Injunction Act, barred the court from addressing the merits of the case (which challenged the individual mandate (Section 1501) and the employer insurance mandate (Section 1513). The suit also raised the Free Exercise of religion claim because of the forced taxpayer funding of abortion. Because SCOTUS ruled that the AIA does not apply to Obamacare, Liberty Counsel asked the Court to grant the petition (because Liberty University prevailed on the AIA claim), vacate the Court of Appeals ruling, and remand the case to the Court of Appeals to consider the Free Exercise claim and the employer mandate, neither of which were decided by the High Court. If the Supreme Court ultimately hears the case on appeal – which is highly possible as the claims are unique – and rules that the employer mandate and Free Exercise claims are legit, Obamacare dies on the vine.

    At this point, the risk clearly outweighs the rewards of implementing a state exchange. The risks being an additional tax burden of $10 to $100 million each year which will result in tax increases and as Governor Heineman has stated, cuts to Nebraska’s education budget. Also…Obamacare offers its deficit-financed subsidies to private health insurers only through state-created exchanges. If all states declined, federal deficits would fall by roughly $700 billion over ten years.

    I for one hope that Governor Heineman joins the 14 other states and the Catholic church in refusing to implement state-run exchanges. The feds are resorting to the same dirty tricks used to pass the law in the first place. They are BRIBING the states with federal grants to put the state exchanges in place and they are THREATENING them with a federal exchange if they don’t. They have extended the deadline because they are desperate. They know the law can’t be implemented without the state’s help. Let’s not put the noose around our own necks.

  22. RWP says:

    I don’t understand the Origination Clause argument. The actual bill that was passed by both houses was H.R.4872. Obviously it originated in the House, as required.

    I agree with much of the rest of the post. There is zero flexibility and zero money to run the state exchanges.

  23. Interested Observer says:

    Is there any significance to Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers being elected to lead the Republican Conference?

  24. Lil Mac says:

    RWP, I am not happy with this either. When I say it appears wise to keep power as close to home as possible, I do so with an eye to eventually doing away with governmental controls over non-government matters at all levels. I don’t see forced healthcare as anything other than a tyranny inviting some sort of insurgency. But a federal blanket is a blanket. I understand some will see the state as coopting to the tyrannical. Yes, or what else? When the troopers come storming in and appoint a Gauleiter and he asks you to stay on policing else surrender your arms, my instinct is to hang onto the weapon and collect information. But of course at some point you either end up doing their bidding, or you hide in the cellar, or you join the active resistance. So how do we resist this?

    Washington orders every state to force its people or they will be forced. Under normal free circumstances, I see state differences as the greatest “freedom” implicit in our constitution. For if we can vote with our feet, we can live where government is big and freedom small, or in a state where freedom is large for individuals who risk more and government is small. But this isn’t that choice. This is a legislated tyranny and no less so because voters seem to have chosen it via his reelection. I have been in real insurgencies, in countries with dictators, and what is happening here has some odd feel to it. This isn’t business as usual. And while I am not talking about anything other than a battle of words, even in that regard, the Gauleiter has arrived and he is asking if we want to retain some local power and the perspective it affords. If we say no, then what is our next move?

  25. AnOnYmOuS says:

    Washington orders us to hang and you choose to put the noose around our own necks rather than making them come here and do the dirty work themselves?!

  26. Macdaddy says:

    I agree with AnOnY…(for Pete’s sake, pick another nom de cyber) and I want the Feds to come do their own dirty work as well. I think that people need to be reminded every day that a) This is the federal government ruining their lives and b) this is what they voted for. I vote for not standing in their way, but I also vote for not lifting a finger to help them. Call me irresponsible, but people voted for Obamacare. In a democracy, you get the government you deserve. People should be made to choke down the satan sandwich that they ordered.

    One thing I would caution though: the courts will not overturn Obamacare. The Supreme Court has shown remarkable allegiance to a living Constitution. Hey, the Justices want to get invited to dinner parties, too!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Wingers you lost. Get over it. You will get a chance to ruin the nation in 16. So you don’t like Obama Care. Guess what you lost. This is still America and we still have elections. Your opinions are not laws. Plus don’t you have more important things to do? Like digging out all of the Stars and Bars flags when you get your new nation started. Or do you need to hire more impeachment lawyers? The next time you wave the flag and praise the constitution just make sure you have the right items. Now go back to FOX news and talk radio so you can hear some more nonsense like how Romney had it all sewed up so you can feel better.

  28. AnOnYmOuS says:

    To answer your question RWP…

    What became Obamacare was unveiled by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in a so-called “shelf bill” ploy. Reid took a totally unrelated House measure on veterans’ issues, struck out all its text, and substituted the voluminous language creating Obamacare, with its heavy taxes, including the charge for people who don’t buy insurance. The Supreme Court has never ruled on whether such a gut and switch ploy is constitutional.

    Even Georgetown University Law School Professor Randy Barnett, a leading constitutional critic of Obamacare, stated, “If any act violates the Origination Clause, it would seem to be the Affordable Care Act.”

  29. It's for the Children says:

    MacDaddy is on it. The big government dems own it when it comes to reaching the masses. We screamed about the evil of ObamaCare. It’s 2 years later and “it’s not so bad, look, kids can be on their parents insurance until they are 26 years old”.

    Now that the election is over, the ugly kicks in. And, when ObamaCare fails miserably, like all other “feel good” government programs, who will get the blame?

    And, do we really want to bring the corruption and cronyism to Nebraska by creating our own Healthcare exchange? Who will get fat and happy when that happens?

    Don’t take the Federal Government off the hook. Let them own it.

  30. Anonymous says:

    Randy Barnett a leading constitutional critic of Obama care is against Obama care. WOW! Headline news!!!
    He was wrong back in the day when he and others said the Supreme court would rule against it last June. For one the few times in his life when it come to politics Macdaddy is right. The Court will not meddle on those technicalities . They have been done before and they will be done again. If what the guys says is even true. Tea party people are famous for making up stuff. Remember the big news of just a few days ago. “Romney will win big over 300 electoral votes.. Everyone on FOX and right wing radio told us that for weeks. Still fighting Obama care? Ask the south about how well they did in fighting Civil rights. If you want the answer to that question go to the White House and see who is living there.

  31. RWP says:

    The Supreme Court has never ruled on whether such a gut and switch ploy is constitutional.

    Yes, but the Constitution says the Senate can amend money bills, and completely removing the text of a motion and replacing it with unrelated material is a permissible amendment in parliamentary procedure.

    There are bits of the Constitution that weren’t terribly well thought through, and the origination clause is one. It’s trivial to evade. The argument that because it’s in there, it must mean something or have some impact, doesn’t convince me. The Constitution was written by men (remarkable men, but still men) and not everything they did was perfect.

  32. Lil Mac says:

    Righties. Don’t expect any elected official at any level to join you in waiting for America to suffer enough so voters will learn their lesson. Even the most conservative elected official ran for office to wield power for good; the operative word being power no matter how badly wielded. I already called this tyranny. If you can find something worst to call it, let me know. One’s options when coerced are limited. You can deal with it and stay in play, or you can turn your back on it and watch. Like any form of pork, its pernicious quality is that it is delicious and noble starvation isn’t fun. If it turns out Nebraskans suffer under long distance federal neglect while states around Nebraska have citizens less harmed by state involvement, then Nebraska voters won’t find their noble hunger so wonderful compared to the chow others get. So your next move is what? Sit on your butt? Okay, but will voters appreciate that? If they don’t, you may have marginalized yourself completely out of political consideration. You aren’t just the party out of power; you may go the way of the Whigs. Frankly, I’d fix America by repealing everything passed in 1913. No kidding. But that isn’t going to happen either.

    Lefties. As for your cold disregard for the Americans Obama has helped kill by selling sniper rifles to drug cartels and by letting Americans die in Benghazi so he could be reelected, the impeachment for that or any other reason is up to US Senators and they happen to be mostly Democrats who like you don’t mind a few Americans sacrificed for this guy. If at some point if he gets to be too much for even Dems, he may get the boot. But all that is separate from right and wrong. Don’t think for a moment that just because you don’t mind Obama using human lives like ass wipe that others think it is okay.

  33. Anonymous says:

    Lil Mac, turn off Fox News and come back to reality! Your last paragraph shows you are just one step away from total derangement.

  34. Anonymous says:

    Where was all this rancor toward the President when, in 2002, the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan was attacked and 10 were killed. Where were the calls for impeachment of the President when, in 2004, the U.S. Embassy in Uzbekistan was bombed and 2 were killed and 9 injured? Where were the calls for a Watergate style committee to investigate the 2004 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Saudia Arabia with 8 killed? In 2006 the U.S. Embassy in Syria was attacked and one was killed, you guys weren’t pissed at the President then. And again, in 2008, another nineteen killed, and sixteen injured, when the U.S. Embassy in Yemen was bombed. Where were you guys with all of your screams for the head of the President on a pike?

  35. Anonymous says:

    As for using American troops to clean his shitty ass, Bush started two wars that were totally unnecessary, resulting in the killing of thousands of American troops and VA hospitals filled to overflowing with our kids that have been ripped from limb to limb.
    Get some damned perspective, Lil Mac.

  36. Charlie says:

    To be honest, a president does things and makes decision that sometimes tank. Could we do a better job, some might say yes, but we really have no idea. Perspective is the one thing we have in common here. Everyone has their perspective clouded by media and biases. Bush made some pretty crappy decisions, and lets face it so has Obama. I think the point is that we have a decision to make. Do we continue complaining like little entitled children or do we make sure that this country remains the number one country in the world by doing our part, whatever president is in office.

  37. Anonymous says:

    How did Romney lose? He was richer, and his ideas according Sean, and Rush and other really smart people were the superior ideas. How did he loose to a guy who is not even an American? Just because the majority of Americans did not want him, how can we fix this flaw in our country?

  38. RWP says:

    Anonymous Coward @ 11:58. Because Americans are easily deceived, lazy and can be bribed with their own money. The Founders knew all that, and tried to create a limited government so the damage Americans could do to each other via state power would be restricted. Unfortunately, we’ve gradually been undoing those restrictions.

  39. RWP says:

    Does anyone other than Anonymous Coward @ 10:59 seriously question that with Al Qaida ensconced in Afghanistan, the war there wasn’t necessary? The war was authorized by Congress, in the House by a 420-1 vote and in the Senate 98-0. The only nay was Barbara Lee, perhaps the biggest moonbat in Congress.

  40. Anonymous2 says:

    Talk about revisionist history. Bush believed WMDs existed without proof (like those who predicted a Romney victory; turns out polling can be a fairly accurate science). The others took his lead without any evidence of their own.

  41. Anonymous says:

    In 1980, Iraq invaded Iran. Saddam’s troops trained by Soviet advisors to use WMD, used chemical weapons against Iranian army in Nov 1980 against the Geneva convention. The UN sent teams in 1984, 1986 and 1987 to verify Irans claims. All three UN teams said Iraq was using chemical weapons against Iranian troops, with mustard and tabun as the primary agents delivered in bombs via air drop against troops. UN also reported artillery shells and chemical rockets were used to deliver WMD/chem against civilian personnel.

    On March 16, 1988, Saddam Hussein ordered the single largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history. Such was, according to Human Rights Watch, part of Saddam’s larger “Anfal campaign” that massacred up to “100,000 non-combatant civilians including women and children”. Saddam used mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and VX nerve agents. The UN also recognized that Iraq had been testing and developing bio warheads (containing anthrax and botulinum toxin) in the desert.

    What are Democrats here are still trying to prove?. That Iraq never had WMD? Or that Saddam never used it on enough innocents? Or that Saddam Hussain wasn’t such a bad guy after all?

  42. Anonymous says:

    In February 1998, after Saddam Hussein blocked U.N. inspectors from entering Iraq, President Bill Clinton warned: “What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act? Or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he’ll use the arsenal.”

  43. Anonymous2 says:

    Geez, this is just insane! Just google and try to remember fairly recent history.
    On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.
    Those weapon stockpiles had been destroyed.
    Give it up, already. Even Bush admits there were no WMDs, and there was never any evidence Iraq had them in the 2000’s.

  44. Anonymous says:

    During the interrogation of Saddam Hussein, he admitted that most of the WMD had been destroyed by the U.N. inspectors in the ’90s and those that hadn’t been destroyed by the inspectors were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.

    However, Hussein indicated he projected that he still had WMD because it he felt that was what was keeping him in power and kept the Iranians from reinvading Iraq. He believed that he couldn’t survive without the perception that he had weapons of mass destruction.

    Hussein also indicated that he initially miscalculated President Bush. Hussein thought the United States would retaliate with the same type of attack as President Clinton did in 1998 under Operation Desert Fox, which was a four-day aerial attack. Hussein expected some kind of an air campaign and felt that he could he survive that because he had survived that once.

  45. Macdaddy says:

    Anon 10:56 was obviously asleep from 2000-2008. Where was the rancor? It was unrelenting from the Left. Remember Chimpy McBushitler? How about the book and movie that depicted W’s assassination? Where was the rancor. You have got to be kidding me.

  46. Oh well is right... says:

    That’s the closest thing to a “We were wrong!” we will get from SS. The biggest losers? Those who stood to make the most off the deal: The NHCA and SS. Oops…I mean the NHCA and the lobbyist they hired that at Meridian. First they sell us out for personal profit and attempt to convince us it’s in our best interest. When the governor refutes their BS, all we get is an “Oh well…”?!!!!

  47. Yeah, that’s the best you get.
    What, you want me to paint your house?
    We took a position on a political issue and the Governor went the other way.
    C’est la vie.
    We’re not affiliated with NHCA in any way. We neither gain nor lose (in any direct business sense) from the Governor’s decision.
    We think he should have decided the other way, but he didn’t. We understand his reasoning and that’s fine. No hard feelings from Leavenworth Street.
    And no apologies either.
    SS

  48. Kleeb Agitator says:

    Agitating Jane Kleeb takes priority over good public policy you advocate? Is this what is driving policy in Lincoln too? Maybe it was best to export the exchange to DC.

  49. Interested Observer says:

    I’m pretty amazed that the federal government can run this exchange for 1/4 of what Nebraska can do it. I have to wonder if they can run our other state functions for 1/4 of what we’re currently paying? Can they run the Department of Roads for 1/4? Can they run the University system for 1/4? Can they run everything else for 1/4?

    If so, then what in the world are we doing wrong, that the U.S. government is 4 times MORE efficient than the Nebraska state government?

  50. Anonymous says:

    Anonymous2- The information I provided at #62 & 64 cuts both ways. Hindsight is 20/20 and it is clear now that there were not WMD at the inception of the Iraq War. However, both Presidents Clinton and Bush believed they existed. It is easy to see why they came to this conclusion considering Saddam Hussein was intentionally trying to convince the world that he, in fact, still had WMD. There was intelligence information to support both conclusions. Bush may have erred but I don’t believe he lied.

  51. Anonymous2 says:

    Bush was told no WMDs existed. Instead of accepting this, he sent Colin Powell out to the public with “evidence” of WMDs. That was the lie. (Another Republican acting on feelings rather than facts.)

  52. Anonymous says:

    Thank god we have a federal government. How in the heck do you think a state like Nebraska can balance their budget? We get welfare money from rich states who pay more in federal taxes to take care of us and most of the south . Pretty simple. Its not like we are smarter or more frugal. We are a welfare state. Think if we were an independent nation. We would be 3rd world. The Huskers would have to leave because we could not afford them any more. Then we would be more boring than Utah.

  53. Anonymous says:

    RWP at 12:08 Really? Bribed? So the only time Americans are not stupid is when they vote republican? Your smarter than every American who voted for Obama? Every single one? WOW your Enistein ++++? What freedoms that GOD gave us do you want to take away. Our founding fathers were great men and they wrote a constitution that they gave the ability to be changed to make a more perfect UNION. We are not there yet , but a lot better than when only rich white men could vote. Now it is true if we still had that law Romney would be President.

  54. Question for Street Sweeper says:

    After drinking a bit and reading the comments my take away is this. If you paint street sweepers house he will use WMD on the healthcare exchanges to blow them up and RWP agrees this is the best way to go???

  55. AnOnYmOuS says:

    The Iraqi Liberation Act calling for the removal of Saddam from power and replacing him with a democratically elected govt. was passed by Clinton. Prominent dems including John Kerrey, Hillary Clinton, Albrecht, etc. ALL claimed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and should be removed from power. The dems only changed their tune when Bush’s re-election came up and they needed a good partisan issue to run on. Saddam was in violation of numerous UN resolutions for years and years.

    Some ask why not wait for UN approval? It was clear with the majority of the UN Security Council embroiled in the Oil for Food Scandal that they weren’t going to approve and risk outinmg themselves in the process.

    No matter the reason for the war, the outcome was good. Over 400,000 bodies of women and children have been discovered in mass graves so far. He publicly gassed the Kurds in the North. He used torture and genocide to rule through fear. Those people couldn’t stand up to Saddam, we had the ability to help. They say the deepest pits of hell are reserved for those who could help, but choose not to.

  56. Anonymous says:

    RWP, Bush’s first, and only, instinct was to lie to us all the time. Also, I’m glad to know that you have so much love for the people that live in this land that accepted, with open arms, an ungrateful bum like yourself.

    Anonymous @ 2:00 PM, You forgot to mention that Iraq lost the first Gulf War and then had to destroy all of its WMD, a thing that required them to submit to UN inspections. Bush attacked Saddam because Saddam tried to kill his daddy, and he still needed to prove to Pop just how much better of a President he was than him.

    Macdaddy @ 3:20 PM asked, “… How about the book and movie that depicted W’s assassination? Where was the rancor?”
    Answer: It was a book and a movie. It was fiction, a fable, a storybook tale. Please join the rest of us in the real world.

    Interested Observer @ 4:09 PM, Asks, “… what in the world are we doing wrong, that the U.S. government is 4 times MORE efficient than the Nebraska state government?
    Answer: You keep electing Republicans.

  57. Anonymous2 says:

    And what about our bombs that killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians? Not to mention the deaths and crippling injuries to our armed forces. Trillions of dollars that our county went into debt. One must be delusional to see this as a good outcome.

    Here’s a simple timeline: 1) Most thought Saddam had WMDs; 2) We sent in inspectors and found nothing; 3) Other intelligence could find no evidence of WMDs; 4) Bush presented false evidence of WMDs; 5) Off to war on false pretenses

  58. Anonymous says:

    If we had left Saddam alone, Iran would not be developing nuclear weapons today. Remember, he once was a friend of ours, so much so that we supplied him weapons.

  59. Macdaddy says:

    Anon 5:05, you honestly don’t remember the vitriol directed at Bush by every level of the Left beginning on the day after the election in 2000? Did you have a severe brain injury, or a lobotomy, or hypnotherapy gone awry?

  60. Anonymous says:

    Macdaddy, I’m just not a hyper-sensitive paranoid like you. And, to answer your question, yes I do recall a few idiots from the other side that behaved just as stupidly as you are doing. I gave them the same regard I do to you.

  61. Some Thoughts says:

    I don’t understand why Gov. Heineman is willing to let the federal govt. come in here and run things, rather than coming up with a Nebraskan plan for Nebraskans. One of the most attractive conservative principles is the idea of maximizing local control. It doesn’t work for everything, like missile defense, but it works very well for things like education and health care, where a local population has specific practical needs.

    I do not understand the argument that we should let the feds “own it”. What good is that going to do? Nebraskans overwhelmingly disapprove of Obamacare and voted that way. Why should they suffer the imposition of a one-size-fits-all federal scheme, when they could work closely with a much smaller number of state groups that better understand what Nebraskans need? Our insurance offerings are a lot different than in other states. Our mix of hospitals is much different. Our challenges in health care access are more about urban/rural differences and distances than is true in other states.

    I think this “let the feds do it” answer is simply a cop out because we were caught flat-footed and unprepared. Don’t we still have time to do a mixed federal and state exchange, even if we can’t meet the deadline for a state-only exchange?

    I feel like many of you are responding not as conservatives who care about doing something the best way, but as political partisans who just want the opposition program to fail. The way to let it fail is not by letting it hurt people here in Nebraska! What is the sense behind that approach?

  62. Macdaddy says:

    Some Thoughts, the state exchanges actually take their marching orders from Washington. The Feds set the requirements of the exchange and pretty much the states get to choose the font of the brochure. Maybe they can choose to print it in 4 colors rather than just 3, but it’s hard to know at this time. Nebraska would probably have to get permission first.

  63. Anonymous says:

    Heineman did good on the health exchanges.(no idea how he pulled it off) We can’t let local yokels who don’t believe in the new law to be in charge. That’s like letting Flat Earth Society people run NASA. A few years from now when people really understand the new law not only will it be working it will be very popular. The GOP scare tactics failed on Social Security and Medicare. The GOP is good at failing. Please don’t stop being the type of GOP that you are now. It makes 2016 a lot easier if you stay the same.

  64. RWP says:

    Lord Ashdown, a member of Britain’s Liberal Democrats and part of their ruling coalition, said today in the Times that the Afghan war is lost and that NATO should pull out now. He said the initial part of the war, to eliminate Al Qaida, had been successful. That was Bush’s war. But the second half, to try to defeat the Taliban and establish a stable government — Obama’s war — has been a failure.

    Wonder who Obama is going to blame this on? ATMs?

  65. RWP says:

    Your smarter than every American who voted for Obama?

    Certainly smart enough to know the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’, Bud.

  66. RWP says:

    I’m pretty amazed that the federal government can run this exchange for 1/4 of what Nebraska can do it.

    He said the cost to Nebraska taxpayers was 1/4. Not the same thing.

    The entire thing is a bureaucratic, regulation -filled monster. And you know when it fails, as it will, Obama will rush to blame other people. It’s what he does. Heineman decided he wasn’t going to be one of those people. Gov. Dave wasn’t born yesterday.

  67. RWP says:

    Also, I’m glad to know that you have so much love for the people that live in this land that accepted, with open arms, an ungrateful bum like yourself.

    Yes, I am an ingrate. Let me remedy that. I’d like to slackers who voted for Obama, and their ilk, for permitting me to live here and work for 35 years, paying somewhere over $1 m in taxes to support their fatherless offspring, and raise three productive citizens to support the next generation of moochers.

    Thanks. I co

  68. Anonymous says:

    Great decision by the Gov……puts the blame on the Feds, plus if the act is struck down we aren’t left holding the bag as a state…….not to mention the Feds have to figure this all out so it will be sllllloooooowwwwwwwwww.

    It also pisses off the left, so that in and of its self makes it a worthy decision:)

  69. Macdaddy says:

    I don’t see how this can piss off the Left unless they think it is going to be an abject failure and are looking for scapegoats. They want a single payer system. Having the Feds running the entire insurance company bailout program, er, uh, I meant insurance exchange should make it easier in the future.

  70. Anonymous says:

    I took a look at States’ arguments for not being Quislings to Obamacare. They have valid points but only if we think we are still living in America’s history and not in its epilogue. Turning points are rarely seen when they occur but rather through eyes yet unborn. You didn’t feel an invisible bump on Nov 6th? That happens with turning points. Franklin said it was ours as long as we could keep it. You still think we have it. That’s nice.

  71. Lil Mac says:

    10:10. If Obamacare forces us all into some kind of Sophie’s Choice that sounds like making lampshades out of people. But as pyrrhic choices go, you have a point. Good luck selling that to the majority who voted for the tyrant expecting more freedom.

  72. RWP says:

    There was no significant health care available before about 1850. There were no antibiotics, surgery was a desperate measure undertaken without anesthesia and usually leading to death by post-op infection, and there was one vaccine. So was nobody free before 1850?

  73. Anonymous says:

    Anonymous2 don’t confuse the GOPHERS with facts and logic. Remember they watch FOX news and believe everything they are told. They are still planning on a President land slide Romney taking office in January. Fox news said so, it must be true. so said the GOPHER. I bet they are some GOPHERS who think they can beat some HUSKERS in football. Especially if it was mentioned on FOX news.

  74. Anonymostly says:

    Bud (5:59), you’re stupid and not clever. And the fact you think you are clever makes your stupidity far more annoying than it would otherwise be by itself (which is plenty annoying in its own right.) It’s funny, in an annoying sort of way, how you parrot all the leftist talking points about conservatives getting all of their information from Fox News (you forgot Rush Limbaugh) while failing to express a single original thought.

    If ignorance is bliss, you must be a very happy stooge.

  75. Anonymostly says:

    Bud, I think you should donate your brain to those who study the effects of too many concussions from playing contact sports. I think it would be illuminating and might explain a lot.

    And, in that vein, do you remember how the Democrats asserted in the Senate campaign that Deb Fischer violated the unwritten rule that neighbors don’t sue neighbors and you keep the lawyers out of it? Apparently Bud Pettigrew didn’t get the memo.

    Bud D. Pettigrew v. Valentine Community Schools, United States District Court case # 4:08CV3084.

    Bud thought he was discriminated against because Valentine schools didn’t hire him to coach football and teach social studies due to his age at the time of 46 years. (He calls himself a “retired” teacher. Chortle, snort.)

    Bud, I got news for ya. It ain’t because of your age. No. Actually, they read your writing sample and thought “we simply cannot hire an imbecile to teach social studies here. Especially one whose thought processes are so shallow that he thinks ‘Anonymous2 don’t confuse the GOPHERS with facts and logic. Remember they watch FOX news and believe everything they are told. They are still planning on a President land slide Romney taking office in January. Fox news said so, it must be true. so said the GOPHER. I bet they are some GOPHERS who think they can beat some HUSKERS in football. Especially if it was mentioned on FOX news.’ is either clever or insightful.”

  76. RWP says:

    Unbefreakinglievable. So a semi-literate* was able to screw the Valentine School District out of $50,000, thanks to a left-leaning federal judge, because they wouldn’t hire him? And this guy has a leading office in the Nebraska Democratic Party?

    *I’m being generous.

  77. Some Thoughts says:

    I appreciate the Governor’s explanation, but I still don’t see why it is better for us to have Washington run this thing. I don’t understand how the cost of one could be so much higher than the other, and even if the costs were somewhat higher (as opposed to four times), wouldn’t those be dollars spent in Nebraska and on Nebraskan companies and workers? We’d be hiring our own call centers, our own IT people, and getting input from the providers and insurers here in this state.

    We’ve all had experiences with state and federal bureaucracy, I am sure. Neither is good, but at least the state is more responsive to what’s happening here. I have no idea why this would anger Jane Kleeb, or not anger her. My decisions about what is a good idea have never and probably will never involve Jane Kleeb. When I see some evidence that she has any expertise whatsoever in any subject (besides perhaps self-promotion), I’m open to revising my opinion.

  78. Anonymous says:

    RWP, It is even worse than you think. Bud was defended in his screwing of the Valentine schools by Vince Powers, the new Chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party.

  79. Anonymostly says:

    So, Bud was paid $50,000 to not teach. Sounds like something Democrats would approve of.

    And so now, rather than look for work as a teacher somewhere, he volunteers his time with the Democratic party in Valentine. A fool’s errand if there ever was one. And I can think of no better fool for the job.

  80. Anonymostly says:

    When I saw Dr. Rob Rauner’s name on the list of people supporting a state exchange, I half hoped we’d go the other direction. It’s like, whatever he wants is probably wrong so let’s go the other direction.

    I know Rob. He’s a nice enough guy but politically misguided. He would frequently write guest editorials in the Lincoln Urinal Star in which he would extoll things like Obamacare. One memorable piece of dreck that he contributed was a column in which he attempted to justify a European-esque government takeover of healthcare based on “statistics” (a/k/a “damn lies”) that he asserted proved our healthcare system was producing worse outcomes than the European socialist models.

    Then, after Obamacare passed, he wrote another opinion piece in which he discovered that, damn, we’re a nation of fatsos and being fat causes all kinds of health problems. Gee, Rob, ya think? Does having a nation of oinkers (mostly residing among the 47%, by the way) have anything to do with worse healthcare outcomes? I mean, when you start off with an uneven playing field, it kind of distorts the final numbers, does it not?

    Anyway, I’m bracing for another analytically shallow submission by Dr. Rob to the Lincoln paper. I guarantee he hasn’t done the research that the professionals at the State Department of Insurance have done to figure out what’s best for Nebraska. But that won’t stop him from telling everyone what he thinks he knows. (Which is less than he actually knows.)

  81. Anonymostly says:

    And, speaking of the professionals at the Department of Insurance who were studying this for the Governor to make his decision, I happen to know one of them as well. I didn’t visit with him in depth about it but he’s been working on pouring over the Affordable Care Act since it was passed and he told me at least a year ago that it appeared that state-run exchanges wouldn’t give the states any real autonomy and would probably cost more. So, it wasn’t a big surprise to me to learn that Governor Heineman had chosen the Federal route. And it gives me a sense of satisfaction knowing that Dr. Rob Rauner is probaby disappointed with the decision. I would think it’d be tough for someone who supported Obamacare to argue against the Federal exchange, but we’ll see what they say.

  82. Anonymous says:

    So the Gov chose the federal route so he’d not have reinvent a more expensive square NE wheel then the already expensive square Federal one the federal idiots will create for us. Okay, I get that. But why again does this piss off Jane Kleeb?

  83. 4:04:
    Right after the decision, J.Kleeb Tweeted:

    @janekleeb
    Let it be know Gov. Heineman chooses fed takeover of what should be in our state control because of his hyper-partisan nature

    That’s what we were referencing.
    SS

  84. Anonymous says:

    See, this is the hypocrisy that is the Nebraska Democratic Party. If you like the Federal Government taking over healthcare through the instrument of Obamacare in the first place, how can you object to the Federal exchange? How can you complain about lack of local control? How can you criticize a Republican governor for accepting one of only two available options that Obama, in his infinite wisdom, decided the states should have?

    The federal exchange is all part of the big plan, beotch.

    It would be one thing if we were talking about a conservative who opposed the government takeover to begin with, objecting to the Federal exchange. But, it takes a hyper-partisan liberal like Jane F’ing Kleeb to criticize the Governor for this Hobson’s choice.

  85. Lil Mac says:

    As a former victim and kapo of federal healthcare, I wish for any state level action that prevents Obamacare from existing. I want that as only a guy who zipped people into shrouds in a federal facility can want that. But since this new way is real, I suppose DH’s decision is cheaper. Yet that too is deceptive. When it gets down to choosing between a cyanide tab and an explosive suppository, people will fight tooth and nail for the “better” alternative. Welcome to Oz.

  86. Anonymous says:

    Now that the Nebraska Democratic Party has finally given their old guard an opportunity at one last hurrah, I hope the old duffers just go away and finally allow some of the young ones to come in and shape the party’s future. There is no future for the NDP so long as they keep grasping onto the past.

  87. Lost in Translation says:

    A translation of Anon @ 9:15: As soon as the Ben Nelson’s of the NDP finally go away, the Jane Kleebs of the world can move the NDP to the Far Left to mirror our party nationally.

  88. Anonymous says:

    @ LiT, You will then be surprised at just how many Nebraskans begin to agree with the Democrats once they begin showing their true colors. The reason voters haven’t been supporting the party, and its candidates, is because there was no one to support that didn’t toe the line laid out by that RINO, Ben Nelson. He was the personality the cult had to worship. Now that he’s history, new voices will begin to be heard.

  89. Anonymous says:

    Lost in Translation November 18, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    A translation of Anon @ 9:15: As soon as the Ben Nelsons of the NDP finally go away, the Jane Kleebs of the world can move the NDP to the Far Left to mirror our party nationally.
    ________________________________

    Anonymous November 18, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    @ LiT, You will then be surprised at just how many Nebraskans begin to agree with the Democrats once they begin showing their true colors.

    So, you’re saying that more Nebraskans will begin to agree with the Democrats once the Dems move more to the far left? I agree with you. That would be surprising.

    (You also imply that Democrats in Nebraska have been hiding their true colors. That’s not surprising.)

  90. Anonymous says:

    Nebraska’s Democrats have not been hiding their true colors. The leadership of the NDP has been holding them down with their jackbooted heels on their throats.
    The Dems don’t need to move to the far left. They only need to move to the rational left, since they’ve been forced to live in Republicanville by Ben Nelson for the past twenty years.
    Now that every federal and statewide office in Nebraska is held by a Republican, just whom do you believe the voters will rebel against when the state goes to hell in a handbasket? Hmmmm?

  91. Rational left? Such a thing does not exist.

    Now that the Senate and the Presidency remain under the control of the Democrats, just whom do you believe the people will rebel against when the country goes to hell in a handbasket?

  92. Macdaddy says:

    Anon 3:09, I feel pretty good about Nebraska’s chances of not going to hell in a handbasket, precisely because competent, mature, and responsible people are in charge of our government. Other than in Omaha.

  93. Anonymous says:

    Grundle, you are such an idiot that most of the other idiots seem like Einstein in comparison to you. The crap you write isn’t valid just because you wrote it, lies remain lies.
    The House of Representatives is still under GOP control, and the Senate can still be hobbled by the Do-Nothings GOPers. Americans are waking up and realizing just who has really been at the root of our nation’s problems, and it hasn’t been the Democrats. Nebraska, on the other hand, always lags behind by ten years. That is due to the inbreeding.
    Macdaddy, the same comments apply to you.

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