Charles Herbster for #NESEN or #NEGOV?

With the news that Rep. Jeff Fortenberry has decided not to run for the retiring Mike Johanns Senate seat, our gaze turns elsewhere to see who else is interested.

So on Wednesday evening we received the email that Midlands University President, Ben Sasse is going to begin a statewide “listening tour” to see if he should run. (You may remember that Leavenworth Street discussed Sasse’s potential run back in February.)

Unless he gets lost out in the Panhandle searching for Carhenge, we on Leavenworth Street are now counting Sasse “In” as a candidate.

We cracked up just a little at this line from his press release:

But let me be clear: We do not give a rip about some title or some DC office.

**UPDATE**

And see Sasse’s introductory video (“don’t give a rip” line included!) here:

We add Sasse to the definitely (though unannounced) Shane Osborn and the likely (though unannounced) Pete Ricketts.

So who else?

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Charles Herbster 02

Well, we had been hearing that a wealthy non-Omahan/non-Lincolnite was interested, but we hadn’t heard a name.
Now we have a name.

That name is Charles Herbster, of Falls City, Nebraska. (For those without Google Maps, Falls City is pretty much the farthest Southeast you can go in Nebraska.)

Herbster is a millionaire cattle rancher and owner of an Amway-esque MLM called “Conklin“.
(And before we get too far on that, we really have no knowledge about Conklin, or their business strategy or whether they are like Amway or not. But we have seen them described as an MLM, and Amway is the best known of those.)

Herbster Angus Farms logo 01But Herbster’s bread and butter is the Herbster Angus Farms, where every logo and image is that of a giant bull.

Beyond that, we do not know that much about Herbster (though we are sure we will learn more).
It would seem he has a relationship at some level with Jim Dobson, the evangelist founder of “Focus on the Family.”

Herbster gave a one-minute welcome message to Dobson for an event in Iowa, which was recorded and posted on YouTube.
See it here:

So what does this tell us?
Hmm.
Well, if we had to guess — and we don’t really have much else to go on, on this Wednesday evening — we would likely put Herbster in the evangelical Christian column, though that doesn’t necessarily mean much these days.

But the MAIN thing it should tell us is that Herbster is likely sitting on a pile of his own cash that he can use to let the voters of Nebraska learn about him.
And that can be a big help in a statewide campaign.

Now, all that being said, we had FIRST heard Herbster’s name in the context of the Governor’s race.
But, he apparently had been considering U.S. Senate in previous races, but decided not to pull the trigger.
One could argue that both races are pretty much wide-open — though the Senate race is filling with a significant lineup now, whereas the Gov’s race only has, at most, two State Senators.

Herbster for Governor?

We will keep our eyes and ears open for more on Herbster and will try keep Sasse away from Carhenge.
Just in case.

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215 comments

  1. TexasAnnie says:

    As with y’all I’m curious about this new name: Charles Herbster.
    If he is an evangelical candidate, he is unelectable.
    Most Americans, even Nebraskans, don’t travel that road…

  2. If Herbster runs as an Evangelical, that is one thing. If he runs for office and, among other things, happens to be Evangelical, that is another thing. Paraphrasing a line from “Galaxy Quest,” “What’s his motivation?”

  3. Interested Observer says:

    Motivation is a curious thing. So too are all the different things that different people want out of life. Some people seem to want to be a United States Senator more than anything else in the world.

    For some other people, it doesn’t mean all that much, like, for example, Nelson or Johanns or Heineman or Fortenberry, as they have all walked away from it.

    So, it does really make one look at the true motivation of each candidate to run for their respective office. Is it “to do the best job they can in that office” or is it just to attain that office for their own personal, self-interest?

  4. Zilla Thrilla says:

    Dude, I’m voting for the Angus Beef guy. I ate 2 of those Angus burgers when I had the munchies. Quite Tasty!

  5. Interested Observer says:

    I’d like a clarification of the official Leavenworthst.com rules and policies. From a previous post:

    Street Sweeper October 1, 2012 at 6:56 AM

    Just in case it is not clear to commenters here:
    Leavenworth Street is not a forum to discuss the families of candidates for office.
    If you’re looking for something like that, try the Omaha World Herald, which finds that a perfect thing to discuss. And to get more specific on our policy in that regard, please read out 10/1/12 post.
    Bring candidates’ families, and your comment will be deleted.

    SS

    From the 10/1/12 post:

    We will not comment on Fischer’s or anyone else’s family for political purposes.
    And we ruled them off-limits and deleted anyone who broke that rule.
    And we will do the same in this case.

    So, is it OK to comment on current office holders’ families, but it’s not OK to comment on candidates’ families?

  6. History says:

    “I can’t wait to vote for a clueless rich guy who wants to spend his millions to buy my vote,” said no Nebraska voter ever.

  7. Tonic & Tonic says:

    He’d have to spend $80-$100k on intro mail.I can see the welfare rancher adds already… This guy would get positively TOASTED in a primary.

  8. TexasAnnie says:

    Motivation is always self reflective. Caring for the ‘self’ is virtuous and natural to the human condition. Of course caring for the self to an exclusion of all others will, eventually, bring loneliness and heartache. Likewise caring for the self via inclusion within only a small group will not work out well for candidates at the national level. Like it or not, most voters are in the middle: not too conservative and not too liberal. More Republicans, than Democrats, are having difficulty acting on this axiom.

    And I agree w/ you Interested Observer. Street Sweeper does appear to play favorites at times.
    But…It’s Street Sweeper’s blog. Life isn’t fair. But taxes should and could be fair. Will you work w/ me to encourage tax justice here at Leavenworth Street? Discovering which of the Senatorial candidates considered above would campaign on the issue of tax justice would be very interesting…

  9. unknonymous says:

    @ Interested Observer;

    I believe the standard for attacking children is determined by the approval the far right has granted to the office holder or candidate. Two years ago when the far right was in support of Jon Brunning for Senate it would probably have been permissible to go after Deb Fischer’s children.

    @ Texas Annie;

    You are exactly right about the origins of Chuck Hagel’s son’s name. Ziller is Mrs. Hagel’s maiden name.

  10. Anonymostly says:

    IO wants clarification so that if it’s OK to attack the family of a current office holder, she’s going to bombard us with all kinds of gossip about Deb Fischer’s kids. Can’t wait.

    IO, I often see you complaining that the rules around here aren’t applied evenly and that others are allowed to get away with things you aren’t allowed to get away with. Has it ever occurred to you that mabye Street Sweeper just doesn’t like you?

    You gotta admit that during the general election last year, you made yourself quite a pain in everyone’s arse. I suspect that hasn’t been forgotten. A reputation once made is difficult to change. And you probably exist around here with a bit of a shorter leash than everyone else as a result.

  11. Anonymostly says:

    Speaking of IO’s windmill tilting, I wonder how millionaire rancher Chuck Herbster feels about McKelvie grazing permits. Did he get in on any of those? If not, does he feel disadvantaged by the fact that such a small percentage of ranchers are able to have those grazing permits?

    Has Herbster rented any school land pasture? Does he live near any school land? How far is his operation away from the nearest federal grazing land? If they opened it up to rent like school land, would he be too far away to use it?

    Will IO ever let it go? Prolly not, huh?

    P.S. When Johanns retires, United States Sen. Deb Fischer will be the senior Senator from the State of Nebraska. How cool is that?

  12. Anonymostly says:

    So, whadya all think? Is George Zimmerman the 2013 version of Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans?

  13. unknonymous says:

    Not likely, Anonymostly. Zimmerman left a dead body behind as evidence. You can’t say the charges he faces are false.

  14. ProgressiveOasis says:

    TexasAnnie…for goodness sake stick to Texas issues. You apparently have been educated well past your intelligence level. Here’s the credo to live by:

    “I pledge by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”– John Galt, Atlas Shrugged (a novel by Ayn Rand)

    Your concerns about “tax justice” are moronic…and only a step away from the extreme lefties screaming for “economic justice”. If you spent the time you devote to idiotic concerns about “justice” of any kind on more profitable pursuits, you could buy all the pols you want to own.

  15. TexasAnnie says:

    Yes, Progressive Oasis, I have read “Atlas Shrugged.” And for a time I was also under the spell of Ayn Rand. However with age, wisdom, and my return to Texas (where we do practice tax justice) I escaped from my Nebraska-born nihilism and returned to my former belief about ethics.
    That being, the Categorical Imperative of Immanuel Kant: “Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law (1785).”

    I’m not sure whether you are educated enough to understand the importance of tax justice given your outburst above. But I’ll cut you some slack in the hope that you will gain some intelligence…
    Currently the idea of tax justice is again up for consideration in our Congress. So national candidates for those offices will likely be facing inquiries about corporate tax breaks and subsidies, the EITC, mortgage deductions and health insurance exchanges/subsidies (beginning next year), and etc. All of these tax expenditures result in higher tax rates for those left standing, ‘er, PAYING. For me, tax justice is far from moronic. It is a categorical imperative!

    I thought all you Ayn Rand devotees should have learned a lesson from the 2008 economic collapse, —of which our nation and the world have not yet fully recovered! Rand’s influence on Alan Greenspan and the FED signal the cause, not effect, of our economic woes. I recommend to you David A. Stockman’s “The Great Deformation.” But don’t make the mistake of carrying it on the plane as I did last week. It’s heavy. (Note: David A. Stockman was budget director under Ronald Reagan.)

  16. Anonymostly says:

    Unknonymous, you can’t (entirely) fake a dead body, and so there are some differences between Zimmerman and Duke Lacrosse. But there are similarities as well. So, while you can’t (entirely) fake a dead body, you can fake the whole narrative thingy.

    In both cases, the media rabidly pursued a phony, PC-derived narrative and brought far more intense focus on each than they did with other similar crimes that didn’t involve the political correctness angle of these two cases.

    In both cases, the alleged victim was inaccurately portrayed as something more virtuous or innocent than the reality. The Duke stripper was portrayed as a petite, shy, honors student who only stripped to provide a living for her children while attending college. The reality was that she was a drug addict and prostitute with an extensive criminal history who had previously lied about being raped.

    Trayvon Martin was portrayed as a sweet, young, harmless lad, who was only out to buy skittles and tea when he was murdered only for being black. The reality was that he was an often truant, troubled kid with a violent history who was increasingly involved in drugs and had marijuana in his system when he died.

    In both cases, the media villified the alleged culprits, making them out to be craven, evil bigots who attacked their black victims because of their race. In the Duke case, the media doggedly stuck to the PC narrative and ignored the mounds of exculpatory evidence that began piling up virtually from the beginning. And, when they could no longer ignore the reality that the Duke players were innocent (because the stipper lied about being attacked) they just stopped reporting. Except for an Ed Bradley report on 60 Minutes.

    In Trayvon Martin, the media again has doggedly stuck to its narrative. They manipulated the 911 tape to make it look like George Zimmerman brought up Trayvon’s race when in fact he was responding to a question by the 911 operator. The media used an old photograph of Zimmerman that misleadingly made him look much larger than he was at the time of the event and they used an old picture of Martin to make him look much younger than he was at the time of the event.

    Both cases involved prosecutorial misconduct. In Duke, the prosecutor hid the results of DNA testing that showed the stripper had recent sex with at least 12 different men, none of whom were Duke Lacrosse players. In the Martin case, the prosecution’s IT person scrubbed Trayvon Martin’s cell phone, deleting images and text messages so that the defense could not discover their content.

    In terms of details, there are a lot of differences. But in terms of themes, there are many similarities.

  17. Tonic & Tonic says:

    @zilla thrill a
    Nobody is laughing. Not even your imaginary friend. You’re not funny.
    This place is the mos isely of the internet. Go away before someone takes a light sabre to your arm.

  18. Moving Right Along says:

    Who will run for Governor, you ask?

    Nebraska taxpayers really need a new governor….someone who will pledge to make wholesale changes to rid the Department of Health and Human Services of the dumb clucks who continue to allow incompetency to overwhelm the department—and to screw the taxpayers. It wasn’t that long ago that DHHS hurried $8 million of taxpayer money out the door to individual recipients to help pay their utility bills……some of those recipients were dead!!! According to DHHS own guidelines, that money should have been sent to the utility companies—not directly to recipients.

    It is ultimately Governor Heineman’s responsibility to clean up DHHS, and he needs to show some resolve and guts by firing Kelly and Vivianne.

    Instead, he cuts Mike Foley’s budget—Mike Floley, the only guy who seems to give a damn about taxpayer money.

  19. Matt says:

    I know Charles Herbster a little bit and I can tell you this much. He works hard at everything he does. He’s a self made multi millionaire. And I’ll bet all you haters on here posting from your moms basements in your underwear couldn’t keep up with Herbster for one day if you tried. He works 20 hour days on a regular basis in the summer months. He has a huge high dollar angus farm and is the CEO and owner of Conklin . Conklin has around 70 million dollars in sales each year. So when a guy like that has been a complete success his entire life. He would seem to be the ideal candidate for governor. He’s never held political office before and is therefore not a career politician. He’s probably around 60 years old and a great guy. While he’s not a career politician he’s been very active in politics. Donating thousands to conservative causes and candidates. He’s a Rand Paul , Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio kind of Republican . He would always vote the true conservative way.

  20. Matt says:

    Go Herbster , please run ! I know Charles Herbster a little bit and I can tell you this much. He works hard at everything he does. He’s a self made multi millionaire. And I’ll bet all you haters on here posting from your moms basements in your underwear couldn’t keep up with Herbster for one day if you tried. He works 20 hour days on a regular basis in the summer months. He has a huge high dollar angus farm and is the CEO and owner of Conklin . Conklin has around 70 million dollars in sales each year. So when a guy like that has been a complete success his entire life. He would seem to be the ideal candidate for governor. He’s never held political office before and is therefore not a career politician. He’s probably around 60 years old and a great guy. While he’s not a career politician he’s been very active in politics. Donating thousands to conservative causes and candidates. He’s a Rand Paul , Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio kind of Republican . He would always vote the true conservative way. We need Herbster , I don’t know of any reason why real conservatives wouldn’t want him.

  21. Matt says:

    I’d prefer a business man like Herbster who has done things in the real world ! Unlike a college president who is living off of tax dollars.

  22. TexasAnnie says:

    So, Matt, are you saying: a ‘la Rand Paul, the Herbster would work in the U.S. Senate to eliminate “tax incentives” from the tax code?

  23. To Matt says:

    Evidently you have not seen this that was sent by the FDA to your self made candidate

    “Dear Mr Herbster:

    During the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) inspection of your firm conducted on April 24-25, 2001, June 5-6, 2002, June 28, 2002, and July 8, 2002, our investigators found serious violations of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) concerning the marketing of various products.”

    What does this guy peddle to the public?

  24. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Point of info to Matt @ 9:05 am. Midlands University is a private college. Of course the college, it’s employees, and students receive state and Federal funds. I’d guess those funds are more indirect than direct, and in the case of students, student loans.

    Of course no one in agriculture lobbies for, accepts or receives any such help.

    I presume Mr. Herbster works his ass off, as does Mr. Sasse in his own way. Saying one feeds more at the government trough than the other…I wouldn’t go there.

  25. To To Matt says:

    His company produces a lot of agricultural products such as feed additives for livestock. Being in the livestock industry myself, this is something that is very common. The enormous amount of regulations that agencies like the FDA create makes it very difficult for business owners to do anything without violoating some regulation. I am sure this violation was corrected and taken care of.

  26. Tonic & Tonic says:

    Matt, you’re out of your element, just like Mr. Herbster would be if he were to throw his hat in the ring.
    Don’t get me wrong, I hates me some career politicians, and I loves me some businessmen in office (wait… uhhh)
    but a guy like Herbster (that’s fun, say it with me “Herbster”) wouldn’t fair too well and frankly he wouldn’t be able to serve in the manner we deserve. We’ve seen Herbster before. Not exactly he in particular, but we know the type. His business credentials are great, but there’s a helluva lot more to governing and legislating than making decisions based on a balance sheet. Positions like Governor and U.S. Senator do not lend themselves to on the job training.

    You know what he should do? Run for lower office and work his way up. He could do well in the Unicam and maybe someday be governor. With a work ethic like his, he could really be a positive influence on the legislature.

  27. To To To Matt says:

    The FDA letter states “serious violations…concerning the MARKETING of various products.” You know what that means? It means his company was making false claims about their products.

    Lying to people about your products is not an FDA standard, its an ethical standard.

  28. To To To To Matt says:

    I just had to respond so that I could use that moniker. But I think you are jumping to conclusions. The word “serious” is relative and you don’t know that it means they were making a false claim about their product. You are making quite an assumption.

  29. Anonymostly says:

    The Vince Powers Philosophy regarding the Liberal Democrat Political Attack Machine:

    1. Washington D.C. contains dozens of libraries full of books containing nothing but government regulations of business.

    2. These regulations are often contradictory, requiring businesses to simulatenously do and not do a given thing. (E.g., hire someone without entirely complete documentation, get fined by Immigration and Customs Enforcement; fail to hire someone without entirely complete documentation, get sued by the EEOC.)

    3. Once a business reaches a certain size, it cannot help but run afoul of multiple government regulations. It’s an inevitability. The burden of complete regulatory compliance prevents success. Therefore, the more successful the business, the more likely it leaves a swath of regulatory violations in its wake.

    4. This regulatory structure serves two equally useful purposes: 1) it affords lawyers a path to personal enrichment through predatory lawsuits; and 2) since most successful businessmen are Republicans, and since business success often begets political aspirations, it furnishes Democrats fertile opportunity to smear their political adversaries.

    Anyway, you guys were saying something about Charles Herbster?

  30. Anonymostly says:

    23 Interested Observer May 31, 2013 at 8:05 AM
    Nice DOUBLE STANDARD

    It was meant especially for you. You’re welcome.

  31. Anonymostly says:

    Hey, Vince, did you hear about the Texas business woman who tried to start a conservative 501(c)(3) and found herself enhanced scrutiny of her 501(c)(3) application … and then IRS audits not only of her business but also her personal tax returns? And then OSHA showed up at her business. And the EPA. And the FBI and the ATF as well.

    All a big co-ink-e-dink, huh? Probably? Wasn’t a concerted effort on the part of government regulatory agencies and federal law enforcement (under Holder’s DOJ) to target a conservative business woman for her polticial views/activities, was it? The IRS, of course, would NEVER do such a thing.

    Of course, when a bureaucrat comes to your door looking to find something wrong with your business, it ain’t hard to find things that arguably run afoul of some regulation somewhere. Just ask Ken Svoboda, former Republican mayoral candidate in Lincoln. “Why, Ken, that tire on your business truck, there, doesn’t have quite enough tread. We’re going to write you a ticket.” Funny how that made its way into the political discussion in the mayor’s race.

  32. Anonymous says:

    Mr. Sasse needs to learn to speak with passion and use his hands a bit otherwise it sounds just like another stiff propped up by another.

  33. C. McSpadden says:

    The number one thing that bothers me about Conklin is how Charles and Judy manage their financial obligations. There’s been many reports that they don’t pay their vendors, their taxes and live a life of excess while the people that work for them live in near poverty. Several employees (in the Kansas City area) have lost their homes and farms while still pounding the pavement promoting Conklin. Conklin MLM just doesn’t work. Buyers beware!

  34. Texas Annie. Kant & Taxes 5:24PM says:

    Texas Annie, at first I thought you were Anna Cox (now Anne Marie Cox), but she knows the difference between a Categorical Imperative and a Moral Imperative (or at least used to know it). What you cite as THE Categorical Imperative is actually Kant’s initial description before going through a rigorous analysis that leads to the Second and Third Formulations of the Categorical Imperative.

    The Second Formulation “Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end.not to use humanity as a means to a specific ends.”
    — KANT, Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals, 1785

    The Third Formulation (further refined) is:”Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in that of another, always at the same time as an end and never merely as a means.”
    — KANT, Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals, 1785

    (For the non-philosophically inclined, Kant simply applied intellectual rigor to Christ’s Golden Rule to derive his formulations of the Categorical Imperative).

    While you are generally right that we should eliminate middle class tax subsidies as well as the EITC (I’m a fiscal conservative and budget hawk not beholden to Bankers, Realtors or Social Worker), what you define as “Tax Justice” and “Economic Justice” actually violate the Categorical Imperative since since you are trying to subvert the free will of others through force. (The Government/IRS uses force to extract their money for purposes from the citizenry). Your thoughts fall into the category of the Moral Imperative, which IMHO despite it’s name is less important than the Categorical Imperative.

    As for what Kant thought about charity (for our discussion raising taxes or “Tax Justice” and “Economic Justice:

    “But even though it is possible that a universal law of nature could subsist in accordance with that maxim, still it is impossible to will that such a principle should hold everywhere as a law of nature. For a will that resolved in this way would contradict itself, inasmuch as cases might often arise in which one would have need of the love and sympathy of others and in which he would deprive himself, by such a law of nature springing from his own will, of all hope of the aid he wants for himself. — I.e., it’s immoral to impoverish yourself or others for the benefit of a third party.

  35. Interested Observer says:

    Anonymostly May 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM
    23 Interested Observer May 31, 2013 at 8:05 AM
    Nice DOUBLE STANDARD
    It was meant especially for you. You’re welcome.

    What are you even talking about? I can honestly care less what you say, think or do.

    I was specifically referring to the DOUBLE STANDARD of enforcing the policies of this specific website by Street Sweeper. He has allowed 11 separate comments in here the last few days referencing the child of a high ranking Republican official, in direct violation of his explicit policy prohibiting such comments.

    His “weather vane” moral compass is peculiar, to say the least.

  36. IO,
    Let’s be clear:
    Our rule is for keeping kids out of the mix here on L.St.
    HOWEVER, the particular case of Hagel’s kid was a political issue mentioned for the significance of the court date being delayed while Hagel was waiting to be confirmed. Hence that discussion was legit.
    That being said, there was near zero discussion on the point.
    I don’t consider a stupid pot joke to be some sort of out of bounds comment.

    So of course this differs completely from your crusade against your neighbor and their kids, where you have been salivating to bring up their private lives on this blog to tear down their mother’s candidacy.

    Your jackassery will get no play here.
    If you don’t like it, I am sure there are plenty of other outlets for you around the interwebs.

    And thanks for reading.
    SS

  37. To Street Sweeper says:

    Thank you for the clarification. It is good to know that up and coming rap artists as a topic is allowed. So suck it IO!

    Cordially,

    Whyte Mike, Lucky Charm, and Flocain

  38. TexasAnnie says:

    May 31st at 1:50pm:
    No, I meant the first formulation. I did not discuss “economic justice” at all.
    I’m pushing for “tax justice” which I regard as sameness. Like the SAME income tax rate for everyone, no exceptions, no excuses. Or how about abolishing the IRS and utilizing a consumption/transaction tax in it’s place?

    Your exploration of Kant’s deontology was a surprise for me here at Leavenworth St. Haven’t seen anything like it in all the years I’ve posted!!! Keep it up. It’s stimulating…

  39. Interested Observer says:

    To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

    “I cannot forecast to you the action of Street Sweeper. It is a rationalization, wrapped in a justification, inside an exception; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Street Sweeper’s self interest.”

  40. Interested Observer says:

    Now, onto the next subject. What does anyone think of Rand Paul’s comments at the Reagan Library yesterday? He said the GOP needs to be a “bigger, more inclusive party” and “I think the party can be big enough to allow people who don’t all agree on every issue.”.

  41. Moving Right Along says:

    This morning’s puff piece in the OWH on Secretary of Defense Chuckie Hagel told about how Hagel is going to keep US promises to foreign countries, but fails to mention the story about how Marines in Afganistan are no longer allowed to have a hot meal–or how 3500 caregivers at Walter Reed Army Hospital and the military hospital at Fort Belvoir are being laid off.

    Too bad the reporter didn’t ask Chuckie about promises made to US soldiers.

  42. Barry Bungwit says:

    We will reward our friends and we will punish our enemies. No, not enemies, I meant to say we will punish opponents. We will punish those who oppose us. I am glad to have had the opportunity to clear that up.

  43. TexasAnnie says:

    C’mon back, Kantian theorist! Let’s discuss tax justice (not economic justice as you attempted to assert and assign to me) as a doctrine of universality. Means-ends relations and autonomy (moral imperatives) cannot be made relevant to paying taxes, ‘eh? But I am hoping you agree with me that taxes should be universally applied: With No Exceptions And No Excuses!

    Evidently you and I learned our lessons about Kant in the same era. But you imply that with each succeeding formulation, Kant cancels the former which IS NOT what I was taught. I should point out to you that some contemporary scholars do not regard the CI equivalent to the Golden Rule. And upon googling this morning I was surprised to learn that a few even question whether Kant’s formulations are not teleological rather than deontological!

  44. TexasAnnie says:

    I like Rand Paul. But “[h]ere a scandal, there a scandal, everywhere a scandal” is too harshly stated about Obama in a state where the president is so popular! The Libertarian brand is becoming more acceptable to youthful Democrats. But Republican-type young voters have probably already left the Republican Party. The GOP is highly unlikely to become “more inclusive…”

  45. K McSpadden says:

    We have been in business with the Herbsters for 30 years. Charles and Judy are focused and committed business owners. The Conklin Company has given many people hope and prosperity, not only to improve their lifestyle but also expand existing or new businesses. I know if Charles Herbster decided to run for governor or senator his work ethics and commitment would make a positive difference.

  46. Anonymous says:

    It looks like Jeremy Jensen started the page “Draft Laura Ebke for Legislature” facebook page earlier today. She’s in Karpisek’s district, President of the Republican Liberty Caucus. I wonder if she’ll surpass the 5% of votes Ron Paul got in 2008 primaries or even the 1% Gary Johnson got last fall. The RLC is a joke. Libertarianism will never have the appeal that fundamental conservative principles have with voters, and their willingness to make a joke out of the NEGOP proves that.

  47. Husker_Nation says:

    Charles W. Herbster did not enter this world with a silver spoon in his mouth. He developed a strong work ethic at a young age and I know of no one who works harder than this man. The people of Nebraska would be very fortunate to have him lead this great state. He is one of us. He is not a career politician. He is a great leader and a very successful business man. He has shown he knows how to be successful in every business venture he has ever taken on.
    He has good mid-western values and his generosity runs deep. I’m voting for him.

  48. Chieferman says:

    I met Charles W. Herbster about 4 years ago. I didn’t know him from Adam and had no knowledge of his businesses. I had never heard of Conklin, Herbster Angus Farms or Carico Farms. But in these last 4 years I’ve gotten to know him pretty well, in fact, he has become one of my closest friends. I know I can count on him no matter what. That is just the kind of man he is. My comments may seem biased but I’m just telling the truth. Charles is a tough businessman but he is good man first. He doesn’t believe in giving people handouts, he believes in giving people a hand up. I have never met anyone with more drive and determination than this man. I have also never met someone with more compassion than he has for his fellow man. No one will work harder for the people of Nebraska than Charles. I can’t vote for him because I live in Missouri but if I did live in Nebraska he would have my vote.

  49. Anonymous says:

    Why would any sane person want Laura Ebke of all people to be in the Legislature? Oh wait, Jeremy “I got called out as a misogynist but turned it into a rant about privacy” Jensen is running the page….explains a lot actually.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Jessica, thanks for your anonymous comments #64 and #67. Maybe you should focus more on finding your husband a designated driver and worry less about Jeremy Jensen.

  51. Rose says:

    I have worked with/for Charles W. Herbster for some time now and he is a remarkable man. He has worked for everything he has and was never handed anything. This man strives to help others in any way he can. He is a hands-on farmer, hands-on cattleman and an involved businessman. Mr. Herbster’s work ethic is incredible as well as his ability to relate to people. He will do everything he can to help someone that is willing to learn and try. I believe that we need more down-to-earth business savvy people in office and Charles is an excellent candidate should he choose to run.

  52. Anonymous says:

    Dear Herbster staff,

    The more you try talking him up on this anonymous blog, the more things are going to come out about Herbser, like the fact that he’s never voted in a primary election in his entire life.

    Welcome to politics. It’s clearly Charles Herbster and his staff’s first rodeo.

  53. No Show Herbster says:

    Charles Herbster didn’t even care enough about our government or the NEGOP leadership to take 10 minutes to vote in the 2006 Republican primary Heineman vs. Osborne, or the 2012 Fischer, Bruning, Stenberg matchup. How could Charles Herbster ever ask someone to support him in a primary election when he’s never voted in one himself?

  54. B Schapeler says:

    Charles Herbster work ethics is something we as dairy farmers look for in leaders. He is a remarkable man with several successful businesses made by working hard and striving to help people out along the way. I wish we had more Charles Herbsters enter the political arena the country could learn a few things from a beef producer. As I live in Missouri I can not vote for Nebraska but I can let them know what a great man and friend Charles Herbster is! As for the Conklin Business my husband and I use the products daily on our farm and have seen outstanding results . So Nebrasa take it from a dairy farmer got Herbster!

  55. Anonymous says:

    B Schapeler,

    Nobody gives a damn. Herbster doesn’t vote I’m Nebraska primaries, and neither do you.

  56. Julie says:

    When you listen to people complain that they are sick and beyond tired of politics as it stands today and they believe our country needs more businessmen running it, how fortunate for Nebraska to possibly have Charles W. Herbster step up and run for governor of the great state of Nebraska. He is a man who genuinely cares about others and their wellbeing and works hard to make sure that anyone surrounding him is as successful as they can possibly be. I have only known a few people who work and produce as effectively as Charles does, with remarkable results Why would anyone criticize someone”s financial success who has worked as hard as he has, and employed hundreds of people. He can lead Nebraska and set a standard that other states and politicians need to emulate and get our great nation back – one state at a time. I will do all I can to campaign for Charles W. Herbster,even from outside the state.

  57. Tonic & Tonic says:

    To Julie:
    We already have a successful businessman running for governor. His name is Charlie Jansen and he has a proven track record of true conservatism. That record comes from his experience in politics (something that old man Herbster lacks entirely).
    It doesn’t take much to be more involved than Herbster… hell even Barack Obama’s dog votes in primaries.

  58. unknonymous says:

    Dave Hergert was supposed to be a great businessman, too. That didn’t work out very well.

    We better all hope things improve for Mike Flood. We could use some sanity in the Governor’s race.

  59. Sanity? says:

    If raising the gas tax and giving handouts to illegal aliens is your idea of sanity, then Mike Flood is your man.

  60. Anonymous says:

    Im sorry but just because you own/run a successful business does NOT automatically mean that you’ll be great in politics too. What Nebraska needs is actual conservatives (not free-soil populists who call themselves Republicans like so many in the state do) obtaining office in this state, otherwise we end up with more Bob Krist/Greg Adams/Paul Schumacher types who are oblivious to the fact that there IS partisanship in the capitol and that the Dems do in fact caucus together (though they howl that they don’t)

  61. To above says:

    Bob Krist is a rocked ribbed conservative fighting hard to expand medical welfare (Medicaid) To suggest that Krist would put an R next to his for political expedience is insane as all politicians are honest and honorable.

  62. Anonymous says:

    Michelle Obama finally gave a damn about America when she got to be First Lady. Maybe Herbster will care enough to vote in a GOP primary if he gets to vote for himself.

  63. Christopher Geary says:

    None of you mere mortals know what you are talking about. I am the only legitimate Gubernatorial candidate because I know karate and other stuff too.

  64. 3rd Dist Republican says:

    So Ben Sasse wants to have a Hillary styled “listening tour” to go around the state. If you knew Nebraska you wouldn’t have to go out for 45 days to figure out what Nebraskans want!!! In my opinion he is just another Scott Kleeb.

  65. No Show Herbster says:

    How could Charles Herbster have never care enough to vote in a primary election?

    Hell Ben Sasse has only been registered to vote in Nebraska since April 2010 and he’s voted in 2 primaries.

  66. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Christopher? Geary? Try this Google search: “christopher geary bullshido” and have a look at bullshido [dot] net. You’ll see the esteem Geary is held in by the martial arts community.

  67. Tired of Carpetbaggers says:

    Hagel, Kleeb, Kerrey and and now Sasse are the list of people that choose to be Nebraskans when they want to go to Washington. Osborn and Ricketts have been here for years. I’m tired of these elitist that think all we are good for is a ticket to DC.

  68. HockeyMom says:

    One of the beautiful things about democracy is that EVERYONE has the right to run for office. Whether it be a career politician or a successful businessman – we should be respectful and listen to their stands before “trashing” them in an anonymous forum.

    I have to wonder when reading some of these “negative” comments – why you are not willing to give a successful businessman like Mr. Herbster a chance to layout his agenda first? Our country is spiraling out of control – and we need to applaud anyone who is willing and wants to make a difference. Charles Herbster is a Christian leader who believes in helping people make a difference in their lives. Sounds like a good start to me!

    And with regards to the comparison of Amway to the Conklin Company, THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE AMWAY! Do your research!

  69. Jodi says:

    We have know Mr. Herbster for 7 years. He is full of integrity, honestly caring about people. He has helped many experience life changes. He is a Difference Maker in this world. He loves America! Nebraska is blessed to have him if he chooses to run for Governor. Illinois would love to have him as Governor here! So many states need someone like Mr. Herbster who will stand for what is right, not for himself but for others. He has and uses common sense. He has a lot of experience from being a hard working person in all that he does. He is full of energy and puts it to use in helping others! We need more like him in politics! Vote Herbster!

  70. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Pope Francis is a Christian leader, HockeyMom. I respect Herbster’s faith, but I’m looking for something else in candidates for public office.

    Question for ya, HM: do CEO’s make good politicians? I wonder if people who built their own business – who are in charge and are used to being obeyed – know what to do in an environment where they are not in charge, are not obeyed, compete with people who are at least as smart & hard-working as they are, and absolutely do not give a s**t about “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” scenarios.

    Herbster may see himself as a bull, but he may find himself a steer if he goes to The Show.

  71. Cult of Multi-Level-Marketing says:

    Thank god the sales force doesn’t live in this state. Yes he could be Gov of Illinois, but then then he has a 1 out of 2 chance being sent to prison.

  72. Macdaddy says:

    Guys, seriously. You run the risk of turning Mr Herbster into Nebraska’s own banana slicer or 3 wolves howling at the moon t-shirt. Jodi, you sound like one of Obama’s cult followers. I half expected for you to use the term “Light Worker.”

  73. Interested Observer says:

    There’s a really interesting article in the World Herald this morning about fencing between the Forest Service and the adjoining landowners.

  74. Bob Kerry's shadow says:

    Hey Chuck! It’s Bob. Say, I hear you threw your hat in the ring for Governor. Umm..we may need to talk. Can you stop by my sister’s house, heh, I mean my place today? Thanks and see you later.

  75. Mike S says:

    Nebraska – if your state needs someone who can get things done the way they should be – Vote for Charles W. Herbster! If you want to see businesses succeed – Vote for Charles W. Herbster. If you want to see change for the better in many areas/needs you have in Nebraska – Encourage him to run for Governor, give him the chance and Vote for Charles W. Herbster!

  76. Test post. If someone would be so kind as to send an anonymous message from your anonymous email account to my anonymous email account, I’d be grateful for your help testing things.

    So too the blog link. blog.com is under some load and is throwing 502 errors. That happens from time to time, nothing to worry about.

  77. Herbster Supporter says:

    Hey Anonymous, this may be Charles’ first venture into politics but this is not his first challenge. And you obviously don’t know squat about him. And what part of this blog of massively intelligent posters gives any indication of his ability or inability to run, win and do a fine job as governor?

    Cult of Multi-Level-Marketing, MIke S never said he was from Nebraska and he was brave enough to put his website link on his post. He knows Charles and has a right to support him.

    Interested Observer, or should I say Interested but not Observant, Jodi and MIke have the same site because they are married. Check the About us on their site and see a little about the. Two very fine people who know a little bit about people.

    McDaddy, I was going to try and respond to your comments but after reading them several times I have to give you this advice from Mark Twain, “Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt”

  78. Dear Herbsrer Morons says:

    If you ruin our blog with mindless posts from idiots out of state who support Herbster, know right now that we will never stop messing with Herbster. We will make him a laughing stock. Please if you support Herbster start your own blog and babble on to your heart’s content.

  79. Dear Instate Moron says:

    The only mindless posts are the ones that bash someone they don’t know just for show. As far as making anyone a laughing stock on this blog, you obviously have been reading your own posts too often. I’m a born and raised husker and I’m willing to give the rancher a chance to see what he has to say. As far as the out of state people giving their two cents, well they are welcome to it. I don’t think you are the host of this blog so therefore calling it “our” blog is a bit selfish on your part. Why don’t you start your own blog and restrict who can post then you can pat yourself on the back all day long.

  80. Macdaddy says:

    A friendly note to the Herbsternians: I think you have misjudged the readers of this blog. Sure, some of the other posters say really dumb things and sometimes they are just erroneous. Occasionally, outright lies. But. It’s fair to say that the readers of this blog have a more than unusual interest in politics. In other words, we aren’t in the market for titanium sky hooks or a left handed smoke screen. What you are writing are customer reviews and/or something that would be more appropriate for a letter to the editor. We want meat. Mr Herbster works hard? Great. So does my grandmother and she’s been dead 20 years. He’s honest? Wonderful. So’s a used car salesman. Just ask him. In other words, if you show up here sounding like you’re selling something, we are going to be suspicious that whatever it is used to be lying around the farm. Where does Mr Herbster stand on Medicare expansion? How about illegal immigration? How do we know he’s not just blowing smoke? When has he ever taken a stand for anything, especially if it cost him money? How has he contributed to his community? What issues has he talked about with you and what did he say? Hey, if he’s the right candidate, I’ll support him, but the Democrats will be coming with heat. Google Pete Ricketts if you want to see what Mr Herbster is in for. So if you want to burnish his reputation, show up with something substantial, and not some customer review. Think of this as a training ground for trial balloons. You’re welcome.

  81. Macdaddy says:

    And on a lighter note, did you know that 3 out of the 39 governors of Nebraska came from Falls City? What are they putting in the water down there?

  82. Not the Watchdog says:

    It appears that the first political decision made by Charles Herbster is highly questionable. Herbster has retained former (disgraced) Ohio Congressman Bob McEwen as his general consultant.

    You may or may not remember McEwen as the guy who bounced 166 checks during the infamous House Banking Scandal, and later as a paid lobbyist for and staunch defender of dictator Laurent Gbagbo, who is now the subject of an International Criminal Court investigation for crimes against humanity.

    If you are the company you keep, then egads.

  83. George Gehl says:

    I have been reading the postings of various people regarding the announcement that Charles Herbster is considering a run for public office. The question of motivation is always an appropriate one because from my perspective it takes a special breed of individual to be willing to give up something that has made them successful to devote time to a venture with little or no personal reward and constant criticism no matter the direction taken or decisions made. I would not do it, would you? Yet we feel free to constantly raise questions that are totally irrelevant to the individual’s ability to do a good and honest job representing us. I am from Florida and can’t vote in Nebraska so have no ax to grind. I am also an independent and vote for the individual and not the party affiliation.

    Conklin and the Herbsters have been clients for over 20 years and they are good, honest and caring people. And the fact that they have taken a dying business and made it successful simply means that Charles has the ability to bring sound business management experience to the political arena. Should we vote for people who have never been successful? People who have no management experience? We just tried that for 8 years and can see how that is working out for us! Do we only vote for non-Christians because we are afraid their morals and ethics will somehow corrupt our government institutions? Charles is a good and generous man and represents the type of people we should want in office and he would bring to the office the characteristics we should want in our government officials. I do not know Charles well enough to know his stand on a variety of issues, but do know him well enough to attest to his character.

    George F. Gehl – Florida

  84. Anonymous says:

    Couple questions: Does Mr. Herbster live full-time in Falls City or does he have vacation homes elsewhere that he’s in for months out of the year? Also, if Ben Sasse is the main honcho of a private college he would have to have an awful lot of vacation time saved up to take a summer listening tour, no? Can’t imagine most Nebraskans could launch off on a listening tour. Flood did it but he’s self-employed.

  85. Anonymous says:

    Herbsterians –

    I’m sorry, but I don’t care if he’s a good man. I care where he stands on Obamacare, illegal immigration, expanded Medicare, state tax reform (taxes in general actually), water usage and rights in the Republican River valley, and even abortion.

    But success in business doesn’t always mean success in politics.

  86. John says:

    I have been involved heavily in Nebraska politics for the past 25 plus years. And I have been a volunteer campaign worker for every state wide Republican that has run for office in that time frame. Here are several things I know about Herbster. He was born and raised in Nebraska and has been a lifelong resident as has his family for many generations. He’s been a very successful farmer and businessman and from what I can see he now wants to give back to his State by serving his State , by running for Governor or Senate. What ever he decides to do. I have seen Herbster at many Republucan party functions the past 25 years and he has literally given hundreds of hours of his time in that period volunteering where ever he was needed. I can’t speak for Herbster but I would agree that he would be a type that wants less government , lower taxes and is opposed to Obamacare. I know all the people connected to Nebraska GOP politics and were he to run he’d win the primaries and the general elections in a landslide. Herbster is polite , passionate and humble. He has a servants heart and one of the most genuine people you will ever meet.

  87. unknonymous says:

    There seems to be a small army of Herbalists from around the country. Are there any Herb advocates who can actually vote in Nebraska in a Republican primary? At least the soon to be former mayor of Omaha managed to bus in supporters who were local.

  88. John says:

    Well I’m a lifelong Nebraska resident and like I said. Were Herbster to run he would have the support of the entire Republican Party from the governor on down to the local grassroots level. We all appreciate his years and years of volunteering for Nebraska and donating his time to the Republican party !

  89. John says:

    I personally hope he runs for the Senate. We need more Ted Cruz , Rand Paul and Mike Lee conservatives. Herbster would be a lot like those great guys.

  90. Anonymous says:

    John @256PM

    Good general statements of what you think he believes, but even King RINO Bob Krist says those things, so I’m not sure it’s as helpful as you think.

  91. John says:

    To the welfare recipients on here bashing Herbster because he’s a business man. Well guess what he’s not trying to get you Obama voters to vote for him. If you guys are happy with the Obama and the RINO republicans that have incurred 17 trillion in national debt and out of control deficits and spending, keep on doing the same old crap. Herbster and other Good Conservative Repblicans want a balanced budget. If we don’t pass a balanced budget we will be economically doomed as a nation.

  92. John says:

    @ Annoymous , there’s no doubt in my mind. Herbster will never be a RINO. He’s a true conservative that we can trust 100% of the time. If he chooses to run. I fully believe you will want to support him. But thanks for the comment. I agree with you we don’t want Rinos.

  93. To John says:

    Herbster would have support of the entire party including the Governor down to grassroots? Hate to disagree with you, but nobody knows who this guy is. And I’m not sure where you’re getting that he’s invested years of his life to the Party, because to me it looks like the first check he wrote was in August of 2012, right about the time he decided he wanted to be somebody.

    If you want to make a case for Herbster, fine but you should probably start with the truth.

  94. Macdaddy says:

    Doubling down, I see. Ok, John, conservatives can trust Mr Herbster 100%? Since he’s taken $185,000 in federal ag subsidies, does that mean we can trust him to vote down even further increases in Ag spending? How about cutting that spending? Or are we going to get a song and dance about keeping America’s farmers strong, cut waste, fraud, and abuse, blah, blah, blah? That will come up. So save the customer testimonials and the BS and show up with the real Charles Herbster, because the one you guys are painting here is bogus. It’s almost like you’re trying to paint a target on him. Hmmm.

  95. Anonymous says:

    How do we trust a Herbster 100% of the time when Herbster doesn’t even vote 100% of the time?

    125, GOP candidates must cringe when they see you coming. You are a political idiot and an aid and comfort to your candidates’ opponents. You might have once been a useful idiot, but Herbster isn’t being helped by you introducing him as a businessman and nice guy. Buffett is a businessman and he’s not conservative. Hitler was believed to be a nice guy by the 14 million who voted for him, but he wasn’t nice. Your assertion that all Republicans will support Herbster makes you sound like you are blogging from inside a nut house.

  96. Curious Sort says:

    I see a lot of statements being said here about people like Macdaddy saying Herbster took $185K in farm subsidies. Is this info public record? Or how many times people have voted in elections. How do you find this information? I would really like to know. Are some of you privy to data the rest of us are not?

  97. Tonic & Tonic says:

    Herbsterians- Every Republican candidate has an army of old friends, colleagues, business partners, etc who will crow all day about how much of a “good man” he or she is and how honest he or she has always been… hell even the dems have a few.

    Pro tip: Primary voters (that’s who you should concern yourself with at this point) want qualities and stances that will set the Herbster apart. Whether he runs for #NEGOV or #NESEN he will be running against a much younger opponent who has charisma, good looks, conservative to the core values, money to play, donors aplenty, veteran support… and did I mention much, much younger?

  98. Anonymous says:

    John, I want to apologize for being rude. Sometimes I just can’t help myself. I’m an idiot and I admit I voted for Obama.

  99. Lil Mac says:

    Dad, you raise an interesting possibility regarding the behavior of supporters seeming to paint a target on that which they seem to support.

  100. Interested Observer says:

    Macdaddy, if you go a little further into the Environmental Working Group site, you’ll notice that as of 2007, Mr. Herbster also is/was the sole owner of Carico Farms, Inc, which has received another $312,968 from the USDA. That would make the combined total almost $500,000.

    HOWEVER, to put that in perspective, the top 100 farms in Nebraska each received over $1,500,000 in that same time period and the next 600 farms each received over $1,000,000, also in that same period. Point being that Mr. Herbster’s $500,000 (if that is in fact correct) does not make him that large of a farming operation in Nebraska today, compared to the rest of the farms.

    In fact, the 10 largest recipients ranged from $3,500,000 up to $8,250,000 for the reporting period.

    In the mean time, maybe it wouldn’t hurt anything for everybody to slow down a little bit until we actually get to hear from Mr. Herbster, himself, to see what his positions are.

  101. Message to Herbster Supporters says:

    I think it’s wonderful that Mr. Herbster has so many friends to say such nice things about him. I have not personally committed myself to any candidate for Governor (Janssen, potentially Herbster, potentially Flood, etc). However, I’d like to recommend you not spend so much time commenting here. It is apparent that one of the other gubernatorial campaign’s staffers/supporters are also spending much time on here to discredit Mr. Herbster. And, I hope Sen. Janssen reals in his team because this sort of politicking is not professional nor productive. Instead, go out and tell your friends and family about your candidate. Write letters to the editor. It will take a grassroots effort. We need more quality candidates to run for office and, unfortunately, this venue (at least this string of comments) has turned into one for childish hits and slams that is not representative of how Nebraskans roll.

  102. John says:

    Like I SAID. I have been working for numerous candidates in this State and was a paid staffer for the current Governor. A lot of lied are being spewed on here. There is not a public record anywhere of when and how often people voted in Nebraska. Another point Herbster has never received any farm aid. Lets see a link before I believe your stuff. If you want conservative vote Herbster. I’m a conservative Republican and will support whoever the GOP nominee is.

  103. To John says:

    “There is not a public record anywhere of when and how often people voted in Nebraska.” You clearly have not worked in politics John or you had no major role in a race. Your voting record as when you voted is public. Now go sell some roofing or ag materials.

  104. Anonymous says:

    John,
    What lies are being said? I’m simply asking what Charles Herbster’s views on things are, NOT what you THINK they are.

  105. Interested Observer says:

    John, you can’t post links in here.

    HOWEVER, the Environmental Working Group has posted the precise dollar amount of USDA payments to farmers for several years now. Just look up EWG and click on their Farm Subsidy Database page. It’s all pretty easy to do.

  106. Macdaddy says:

    Lil Mac, I think that makes the most sense now that we are starting to get outrageous statements from the likes of John, who claims to work for Governor Heineman. Oh, worked for Governor Heineman.

  107. Tonic & Tonic says:

    John, voting record is day 1 stuff. Even Pat McPherson knows how to look up an individual’s voting record.

    Pro Tip:
    Don’t say you’ve worked in the party etc for 25 years if you’re Busch league.

  108. Interested Observer says:

    John, I told you yesterday evening at 7:36 PM:

    John, you can’t post links in here.

    HOWEVER, the Environmental Working Group has posted the precise dollar amount of USDA payments to farmers for several years now. Just look up EWG and click on their Farm Subsidy Database page. It’s all pretty easy to do.

    Aren’t you capable of simply going to the EWG website and clicking on the Farm Subsidy Database page and doing a search by recipient for Mr. Herbster and his farming corporation, Carico Farms, Inc.?

  109. Lil Mac says:

    Dad, by Jove, I think you’ve got it! Once upon a time there was someone playing at being a “rancher” in order to dump on a rancher. Now we have a “supporter” acting like the most politically retarded person on earth. Since the pseudo rancher’s “I’m one of you who doesn’t like you” efforts were a complete waste of time, perhaps even contributing to Kerrey being beaten flat like a rug, maybe this is just a new twist to act like a drooling idiot of a supporter. That might work, if anyone actually thought Herbster needed to be suppressed. But he’s not even full in it yet. Of course, the worst case scenario is for the drooling idiot to turn out to be an actual drooling idiot.

  110. Well played indeed, McD (@9:39 am).

    All this Herbster talk sure took the Sasse oxygen out of the virtual room. Though Mr. Sasse and/or his minions are no doubt present, and have been all along.

  111. Moving Right Along says:

    to anon @ 3:37: That’s what happens to a blog that became so horribly addicted to the Omaha/mayor race. Once the Omaha/mayor has been taken away, the blog stumbles around looking for a new issue to get hooked on. It will take a while for LS to find that new addicting substance, so in the meantime, just be patient…..even if it becomes an Amway apocalypse for a few days.

  112. Anonymous says:

    For all you rural bloggers who think discussion here is too focused on Omaha, we are sorry we ignored your dog catcher race. Did the dog win?

    People want to talk about what threatens their own existence and most people live in Omaha.

    Now go back to counting your ag subsidy dollars while the urban taxpapers here will go back to earning them for you.

  113. Moving Right Along says:

    Yes, the dog won, and is now blogging on LS as “anomymous”. But the dog catcher also won, in a way. The dog catcher owns several quarters of irrigated land, and is now a multi-millionaire who can thumb his nose at the crummy ag subsidies. But thanks for all of those good years!

  114. Tonic & Tonic says:

    And though he may be able to thumb his nose at said subsidies- u know there’s not a damn farmer in Nebraska who doesn’t stop at the mailbox for that check. There’s not a single farmer who wouldn’t squawk and complain if someone mentioned shrinking the farm bill from the current $100B/10 years that it is now…

  115. Midland Grad says:

    I kind of feel used by President Sasse. The guy comes here saying he is so committed to the school and all along he has been using us as a springboard. He has expanded the budget greatly and he is going to leave without finishing what he promised to do.

  116. Macdaddy says:

    Conservative Intel has a poll out today about the Nebraska Senate race. Looks good for whichever Republican gets the nod. The floor is 50%.

  117. Thanks Macdaddy above!

    See the poll he is talking about here:
    http://conservativeintel.com/new-conservative-intel-poll-of-nebraska-senate-race/
    Here, generally are the results to discuss. We will put this all in the next post (coming soon!)

    Lincoln Mayor Chris Beutler (D) versus Attorney General Jon Bruning (R)
    Beutler…….34%
    Bruning……44%
    Not sure…..22%

    State Auditor Mike Foley (R) versus Chuck Hassebrook (D), Member of the University of Nebraska Board of Regents

    Foley…………….48%
    Hassebrook……30%
    Not sure………..22%

    Former Ameritrade COO Pete Ricketts (R) vs. Former Lt. Gov. Kim Robak (D)

    Ricketts………45%
    Robak…………36%
    Not sure………19%

    State Senator Steve Lathrop (D) versus former State Treasurer Shane Osborn (R)

    Lathrop………29%
    Osborn………47%
    Not sure……..25%

    Attorney Mike Meister (D) versus Midland University President Republican Ben Sasse (R)

    Meister………24%
    Sasse……….35%
    Not sure…….41%

    Favorability
    Candidate……….Fav / Unfav
    Beutler………………24% / 13%
    Bruning……………..28% / 36%
    Foley………………..25% / 16%
    Hassebrook………..11% / 13%
    Lathrop……………..15% / 10%
    Meister………………8% / 10%
    Osborn………………33% / 15%
    Ricketts…………….22% / 32%
    Robak……………….23% / 16%
    Sasse……………….6% / 11%

  118. Sasse is Bruning says:

    Ben Sasse sounds like Bruning. Expanded budget, PR campaign using his face… Does he have shady investments too?

  119. Please Remember says:

    Please remember that it was Senator Carlson from Holdrege who voted to take tax money from hard-working legal Nebraska citizens and give it to illegals so they can have free health care.

    Please remember that it was Senator Carlson from Holdrege who brought about the most recent vote on term limits……which failed horribly.

    Is Senator Carlson someone you want in the Governor’s chair?

  120. Day 5 of 45 says:

    So where was Ben Sasse listening today? What did he learn about Nebraska today that will help him decide to run for Senate.

  121. Who the hell... says:

    Who the hell is Ben sasse? All I can find in the guy is DC stuff and education? Sounds like another liberal bob Kerry to me.

    All ‘proper’ education, no streed cred.

    Hey Ben, a silo is the round things on a farm that store stuff. Hopefully this adds to your 45 day education tour.

  122. Lil Mac says:

    Favorabilities show Osborn at the top, Unfavorabilities show Bruning as the worst, yet the same poll says in a “matchup between five leading Republicans, Bruning leads Osborn 28%-17%.” The poll then randomly pairs Rs vs Ds. The clearest result from this mishmash is that Democrats are not strong. But that is no surprise.

  123. unknonymous says:

    Brining voters would probably be open to supporting either Al Capone or Randy “Duke” Cunningham if the Jon isn’t in the race.

  124. Lil Mac says:

    Maybe to Osborn. Maybe elsewhere. The poll says they won’t be going to the Democrats and that has not always been the case.

  125. Please Remember says:

    Please remember that Obama is collecting your phone calls and is watching this blog. And, collecting data from your IRS forms.

    Did Senator Johanns know this was going on all along? And didn’t tell us? Especially those of us who use Verizon?

  126. Please Remember says:

    If the NSA knows, then the president knows. Will the president out SS just because he wants to show Nebraskans that he is an in-your-face president?

  127. Anonymous says:

    You want to blame Johanns for Obama’s spying? Get in line. Democrats nationally were today blaming Bush and Congress because they passed the Patriot Act which supposedly gives Obama the ability to spy on the news media. Even if that was true, which it is not, that would be like blaming a cutlery manufacturer for Obama sticking a fork into these guys. And these “guys” are his own Democrats in the news media. What an idiot.

  128. Day 6 of 45 says:

    I thought Sasse was having a listening tour. He instead is on a speaking tour according to Gary and Ace.

  129. Mr Sandman says:

    Politics looks depressing at 2:00 AM. It’s even worse after an Election Day.

    Imagine that you voted the previous day, wedding yourself to your candidate who last night won! It’s wonderful. It’s amazing. It is all so very sexy and beautiful. You drift off to sleep. Then in the darkness you are jolted awake by the sudden realization you are stuck with this being your one-and-only for a long, long time. You scramble to clutch at the hope that you might awaken the next morning to find your beautiful electoral choice is actually better looking. Wow. A super beautiful Perfect 10.

    Yea right. With the bright rays of morning sunshine your sober eyes see your new honey is a cankered skank. But hey, it is your cankered skank. So you ignore the stale sweat and extra rolls and folds and hug your bargain all the tighter.

    Sweet dreams, voters. This is as good at it gets.

  130. Another Hagel says:

    Ben Sasse is another Hagel. I don’t care if his buddies in DC want him back there. Ricketts and Osborne have been committed to Nebraska for years. This guy has been plotting his political career his whole life and Nebraskans can see right through it.

  131. Anonymous says:

    191. For clarification, Hagel is a GOP traitor not a carpetbagger. Hagel was in Vietnam, ran a Nebraska Congressman’s office in DC, and was a Reagan appointee, all serving Nebraska while paying Nebraska income tax as a Nebraskan. He was a Omaha businessman when he ran for Senate. Hagel is a traitor to his own party. But if Sasse is a carpetbagger, there are better examples than Hagel. The fact that Hagel worked at Georgetown since and now is an Obama appointee is as irrelevant as him stupidly endorsing Kerrey over Fischer.

  132. Macdaddy says:

    The only way any of this spying has a chance of working is that we have to trust that the data will be used for the purpose intended and that innocent people will be neither harassed nor inconvenienced. We see now that the government cannot be trusted. Obama pissed that trust away in his rush to “fundamentally transform America.” This is not going to end well. One of the criticisms I had of you big government types is that you should first get the simple government functions right, but instead we see waste, fraud, and abuse at an order of magnitude larger than when Obama started. Thanks, guys. Thanks for nothing.

    Hi, Mr. President. How’s it going?

  133. Labor, Labor & Labor says:

    How about Steve Lathrop going on a “listening tour”? I hope 3rd district gives him some well deserved smack down.

  134. RWP says:

    The only way any of this spying has a chance of working is that we have to trust that the data will be used for the purpose intended and that innocent people will be neither harassed nor inconvenienced.

    That horse hasn’t just left the barn, it’s moved to Florida, bought a beachside condo, and joined a shuffleboard club.

  135. Interested Observer says:

    My first reaction was that only the terrorists and a certain former Lieutenant Governor needed to worry about their phone records. Then I remembered:

    First they came for the socialists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

  136. Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me

    Do not worry, comrade. Your sterling work for the unfortunately slightly unsuccessful campaign of Comrade Kerrey was noticed, and you will have to work no more than 12 hours a day in the prison laundry.

    Do not forget we have those two horse videos you posted online. They were a big hit at the agency. You are quite limber for your age.

  137. Interested Observer says:

    Dan Moser’s version is good.

    HOWEVER, since I’m a Conservative, I tend to prefer the more traditional version.

  138. New State says:

    Anyone see that people in parts of Northern Colorado and parts of non-panhandle western Nebraska want to form a new state? Townhall meetings out there will be interesting this summer.

  139. Geography Professor says:

    “Non-panhandle western Nebraska”? Where in the hell would that be? Where I live, all of the panhandle would be western Nebraska. If not in the panhandle, we call it central Nebraska.

    Please explain for the professor.

  140. New State says:

    Where I am from, central Nebraska is in the central part of the state. A better designation would have been the Southwest part of the state but it is what it is.

  141. Macdaddy says:

    That makes sense because it would be way easier to form a brand new state than to strengthen your political candidates and win some elections.

    That was sarcasm.

  142. I’m in a state of confusion. A new state formed from parts of Colorado and Nebraska? This makes as much sense as chunks of Northern California, Western Nevada and Southern Oregon trying to create a state, as they threaten to do every generation.

  143. Lil Mac says:

    Obama says you must tolerate his “modest invasions” of your privacy. King George III of Britain thought his invasions of Americans’ privacy were modest and necessary.

    I am heartened by those here who find this intolerable. For it indeed is. But I am perplexed that some here try to make tyrants leftwing or rightwing, as if any modern party is immune to tyrants joining their ranks. In the past century, Fascists and Communists tyrannized millions Right and Left. Tyranny can be expressed in any form of power we can conceive. All it needs is a human tyrant. And all anyone can do is remove the tyrant. Here in America we modestly impeach them, which beats the treatment most tyrants get from their people elsewhere.

    I don’t see Obama getting ousted over this. But that can change depending on what else crops up.

  144. What? An umlaut? On a mac keyboard, it’s option-u. I couldn’t say on a PC keyboard.

    And now, a rant against Hal Daub.

    I am no particular fan of Harvey Perlman, and Harvey in return would probably say I’m a damn pain-in-the-ass, if he was feeling generous. But UNL had a perfectly reasonable proposal before the Regents to privatize the University Health Center. Part of the rationale was that we’re running a university, not a medical clinic, and it’s well outside our core competency. Part was that with ObamaCare, running a small medical operation is going to be a nightmare, with thousands of pages of regulations to comply with, particularly given students usually have all sorts of complex insurance arrangements. They put the plan out to bid and got what looks like a decent bid from Bryan Hospital. Bryan were going to build a spanking new health center, free of charge, and run it. The students voted 62:38 for it.

    So what did the Regents do? Following Harbison’s Law of Nebraska Regents and other congenital idiots, the only time the Regents ever go against the university administration is when the administration has a good idea. And Daub, an alleged Republican (which is the main kind of Republican we have in this state) voted against privatization.

    So now it’s back to square one.

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