Who will Pelini endorse for #NEGOV?

If you are looking for in-depth Bo-Pelini-news, you’ve come to the right place!
As we Tweeted, we have unearthed a video of a young Bo Pelini assisting his father in an auto-repair endeavor which sheds some light on his actions later in life.

See it here!

It was unfortunate when young Pelini Double-Dog-Dared Tom Shatel to lick the frozen flag pole…


If you haven’t seen this Taiwanese Pelini “scandal” animation, watch it NOW. It is a MUST see.


When we heard about the donation from Charles Herbster to the Beau McCoy for Governor campaign, we immediately Tweeted: “Holy crap!”

$800K ain’t nothin’ to sneeze at. Robynn Tysver of the OWH noted that it was more than Deb Fischer raised in her Senate primary.

And predictably the other camps are howling at the moon about it.

But from the get-go, all the stories that we have read point out that it is all legal — and was disclosed by the McCoy camp up front. So the other camps are questioning whether it is “right” to accept?

If the shoe was on the other campaign foot, would any of them have turned down that kind of cash? Mike Foley already said he may change his mind about taking the dirty PAC money. Pete Ricketts had no problem spending a wad of money back in 2006 — that some argue was given to him from his father. And do we think Charlie Janssen or Tom Carlson would turn down that kind of scratch?

And let’s remember that Senator Deb Fischer also got a bit of a boost at the end from one Joe Ricketts when he spent $180K on a final pro-Fischer ad blitz. Significantly less, and an independent expenditure, but still a chunk of change.

Point being, money can come from anywhere, but what matters is what you can do with it — and what kind of support you really have. Pete Ricketts will be the first to tell you that money doesn’t buy votes. But, Herbster would have been an immediate force in the Governor’s race. He was serious, and would have been a tough candidate had he stayed in.

We can be honest and say that McCoy automatically becomes a player in a race that is crowded and could be affected by how a message goes out. Ricketts won’t have that problem, but what about Foley? What about the others?


Speaking of Tysver, we are always interested by how she spins her stories. Regarding McCoy, we noticed right off that she questioned whether he would have the “maturity and experience” to be Governor. OK, experience, that’s a legitimate question for EVERY candidate. But “maturity”? He’s thirty-two freaking years old. He’s not sixteen. He has a wife, two four kids and his own business. Since when does maturity become an “issue”, simply because he’s younger than the other candidates?

Does the Nebraska football coach’s “maturity” get a pass because he’s 45 years old?
Does Chuck Hassebrook’s “maturity” come into question because he got bullied out of the last race by Bob Kerrey? What happens if Annette Dubas threatens to take his lunch money?

We aren’t really surprised when we see the bias creep into a Tysver story or a Don Walton story, but we just feel that it’s worthwhile to point out to the L.St readers.

And then there’s Tysver’s mention that Pete Ricketts has the “potential to be a player”. Yeah? The former party nominee and Committeeman? Well then, let us know when that potential has been reached!

Charlie Janssen is called a “dark horse” who “could be a player”. Does that mean he also has “potential”? Does a “dark horse” have maturity?

And she pretty much writes off Tom Carlson.

Ah well.


And on the heels of the Jeff Fortenberry introduction of Mike Foley, and the Kay Orr fundraising for Ben Sasse, comes the endorsement of new Senate candidate Sid Dinsdale by…Tom Osborne.

The Osborne brand is still pretty much untouchable in the state — except we know that that doesn’t necessarily translate to Republican politics. Its not something we would ever turn down, but it’s also not necessarily the Midas touch either.

And then there’s that one other little goofy thing.
That would be Osborne’s most significant hire: One, Mark “Bo” Pelini.
(Yeah we had to look up that real first name.)

No word on who Tommie Frazier will be endorsing.

And for that matter (for real) who Dave Heinemann may endorse! We will say that at this point we won’t be surprised if DH steps up for someone. He had already done so for his old (Bad) Lieutenant. And he may step up just to take some points away from Mike Foley. It could happen.

However, we are probably a good six or seven months off from that.



Remember when Bob Kerrey was moving back to Nebraska?
And it had NOTHING to do with him trying to run for Senate. It was totally to have his family in Nebraska. Even had his son go to school in Omaha for a while.
And to PROVE it, he bought a house in Fairacres.

Yeah, well, Kerrey sold that house.
And told Joe Jordan he doesn’t get back to Nebraska “as much as (he) would like“.

But he’ll always have his sister’s couch…


Be sure to read the OWH’s Joe Morton’s further investigation into who really bought the Kerrey house, and Kerrey’s new address.

Also note that Morton actually refers to him as “Cosmic Bob”.

(Morton better be careful or he may find all of his See’s Candies coupons revoked…)


  1. Gerard Harbison says:

    Bias seldom creeps into a Don Walton column. Bias lives there 24/7, and takes a home-office deduction. The only time bias sneaks in is when bias has stayed out too late on the town drinking.

  2. Some Thoughts says:

    Maybe McCoy can use some of the new cash to get a decent haircut. That could be part of the “maturity” issue. Tysver has always seemed solidly pro-Republican, which is unusual in a reporter. Since she’s not being criticized for anything serious in this article, I think it is merely an attempt to preserve anonymity for her Street Sweeper job, lol!

  3. Anonymous says:

    The McCoy camp was “up front” about the money? That’s a joke, Sweeper. Both Herbster and McCoy have brazenly lied to the paper about this. They think people are stupid or that no one will care.

  4. Pacific Street Pundit says:

    If the contention here is that every other candidate would have accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from a single out of state multi-level marketing empire, I’ll have to disagree.

    As another famous Bo (Schembechler) once said “If you have to cheat to win, you’ve already lost.”

  5. Lil Mac says:

    I think perhaps money in all political races flows and impacts differently each time. being as dynamic and varied as the personalities who wield and use it. Dollars are tools. Some hammers, some saws, some precise, some brute and some people have a bigger tool shed; millionaires like Ricketts, Nelson and Herbster.

    Ricketts used his own money or his father’s to run. Nelson didn’t spend his multi-millions but used donations from trusting donors. Both took the heat of the public spotlight. Herbster until recently took that heat until it stung, so he quit and took the safer role of hiding behind the curtain and trying to pull levers on a governor wannbe he wishes to own, in this case McCoy. Not a father helping a son but a rich guy buying influence. Yet aren’t we all doing that as donors?

    Sure Beau takes money from his benefactor, as Pete takes from his. But is money from a broader swath of average donors always better or wiser than money from one benefactor? We all tend to think of PAC money and wealthy benefactors as being less effective at producing good government than donations taken more widely from average donors. Yet Ben Nelson gave his donors astoundingly bad government in return for their money. His conservative donors would have gotten better government from Herbster’s money or Joe Ricketts’ money backing someone other than Nelson. And lest we forget, on the other side is liberal megabucks Buffet who owns the newspaper only acts nonpartisan and disinterested. He pulls levers behind a more opaque curtain. None of this happens in a vacuum. And there’s only so much that even his money can do.

    Strings attached to money are not of equal length or strength. Thus who owes whom is often less important than who owns another’s obedience. And even that is limited. For you cannot pay or bribe an incumbent enough to lay still on the hot griddle of public criticism, partisan heat, or his own personal ambition. When it heats up, they will flop over. Money gets them into office and gains you their ear. But like us owning a piece of a boxer, they do the boxing not us.

  6. Macdaddy says:

    Sweeper, as always one step ahead. I about spit out my coffee and kicked the cat when I saw that Bob “The Carpetbagger” Kerrey bought his house for $220k and sold it less than a year later for $396k. I realize Dundee is a desirable neighborhood, what with the crack dealers keeping it on the DL and all, but that is some return on his investment. Nothing like a tax free donation to take away the sting of losing.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Sweeper: May wish to check facts on Foley taking PAC funds.

    Otherwise? The clip on Pelini was hysterically creative and your analysis of Robynn’s reporting is well stated.

  8. The Kerrey campaign is an encyclopedia on how to transfer money to a candidate without breaking any laws. First a major Dem backer gives Kerrey $800K to ‘consult’ on cold fusion research, with no tangible result; soon after, Kerrey decides to run for Senate. Kerrey, meanwhile, uses his board seat on Tenet to channel donations to Mello and Nordquist, in return for their doing hatchet duty for his campaign. Then Susie Buffett’s foundation buys Kerrey’s house back from him, at a massive profit.

    What have I left out?

  9. The Robster says:

    Just want to thank you, Sweeper, for calling out Robyn T. I’ve sat in on interviews with her and candidates and her spin skills are top notch. As my OWH reporter friend tells me, it’s their job to sell papers and that’s why they keep her on staff! Apparently, reporting the news is not glamorous enough so facts are irrelevant. Clearly picks her fave and does all she can to help them and tear down their opponents. Thankfully, with technology, we now have other sources that can help us decide what we believe to be the facts.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Maturity might have been the wrong word to use. Anyone with four kids and married for 11 years has “matured.” The bigger concern is at the age of 32 how much life experience does one really have to run the State, not to mention how big of an ego can one have to determine that at the ripe old age of 32 he has enough life experience to be Governor?

  11. Some Thoughts says:

    Oh Bo, I was a Husker fan for many years before you rolled into town, and Lord willing and the creek don’t rise I’ll be a Husker fan for many years after you’ve gone. You won’t ever see me leaving the stadium early in a loss or booing my own team! You also won’t see me dropping f-bombs about the people who pay my salary when I’m sitting in a radio studio full of recording equipment.

  12. Give Herbster his money back says:

    This scam of transfer of money from Herbster to McCoy is just sad. Herbster clearly cares about Nebraska and wanted to be a public servant until his Judy had complications from her heart surgery. Then these guys take advantage of Charles in his hour of need. It is shameful and wrong. Charles said he thought he couldn’t get the money back and clearly he could- and of course Carlos Castillo as campaign manager and Bow McCoy as a state senator would’ve known the law. Bow needs to give the money back to Charles so Bow can maintain some integrity and Charles can take care of Judy.

  13. Robster and Robyn says:

    So Robyn picks her favorite based on whom she wants, whom Warren Buffett or the editors want, or she simply manufactures controversy to sell more papers? It seems to me that at times “selling papers” would be incompatible with promoting a favorite candidate.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Look at the timing of the checks. Herbster knew what was happening and so did McCoy. The “aw, shucks, I didn’t know he was going to transfer everything” is the big lie. But at days end, its still not enough money to make anyone care who or what a Beau McCoy is.

  15. Anonymous says:

    This complaining and moaning coming from the Janssen camp is sad. No laws were broken and Herbster can do what he wants with his money. (Speaking of Herbster, he lives in Nebraska.)

    So get back to programming Andrew, your phones still need work.

  16. Macdaddy says:

    Pelini complaining about fans leaving at halftime?!?!? Maybe he should try to keep his team from leaving at halftime before he lights into the rest of us. BTW, Bo put all his eggs in the Martinez basket but if he’s playing hurt, it is unconscionable to keep him in there. Martinez will not play on Sunday. Period. There’s no reason to drag down the whole team when he’s at 70%. I don’t care what promise Pelini made to Martinez’ father when he threatened to leave Lincoln. Give the rock to Kellogg.

  17. Tonic & Tonic says:

    Why are you only good enough to run after you buddy Herbster (of the Kansas City Herbsters) withdrew from the race?

    ¿Puedo ir al fiesta de pantalones esta miercoles?

  18. Pacific Street Pundit says:

    Very telling that Team McCoy can do nothing but stand on the shoulders of others and call themselves tall. You have done nothing, you have earned nothing, you will win nothing.

  19. hesdeadjim says:


    They keep shouting it from the mountain tops… but it is never any less false than the last time.
    What still reins true: Charles W. Herbster is hopelessly trying to buy influence in Nebraska Government.

  20. Harp harp harp says:

    I think a lot of people give harpster way more credit than warranted. In reality, he is a real lightweight, who either inherited what he has or conned a lot of others so he could get, throwing good and valuable people under the bus whenever he felt like it, and under the guise of being a “christian.” Yes, he has money but put him in a confrontational setting and watch him melt. He always makes a good first impression on people but for those who choose to get in bed, they will regret it.

  21. Ricky says:

    Exactly Some Thoughts #20!
    BO says it was a private moment only the play by play guy was there and so was the PR lady for Nebraska. And microphones and cameras all over the place. What a dope.
    Now it comes out and no surprise BO drops the F-bomb all the time on people, acting like a big bully.
    And this tape was known to people for some time, but no local media would touch it; it took deadspin.
    Now read Sipple in the LJS taking the leaker to task, calling him a weasel. Old media long for the day when they were the only outlet around.
    BO is a ticking time bomb with a personality disorder and I hope he is canned. But I bet he won’t be which would be too bad, I want to root for my Huskers again.


    PS any thoughts in Street Sweeper land on whether or not BO gets canned. ??

  22. Falls City says:

    Why would Herbster care about Nebraska if he doesn’t live here? Didn’t the watchdog article already cover that? And they only covered the house; I am told that the equipment alone in those outbuildings is worth more than the house in KC.

  23. Tonic & Tonic says:


    You just have to have the most wussified opinion of everything in the world, don’t you?

    Guns? ban ’em
    Coach uses a bad word? Fire ’em (unless he is a gun, then he must be banned)
    Vehicle burns fossil fuels? Ban it!
    Person worships God, not Obama? Ban them too!

  24. @39 says:

    Because he CRAVES power! He cannot get enough, ego-maniac, narcissist, little-man-syndrome, something wrong with the way he grew up, it’s not about Nebraska, it’s about HIM! It isn’t the money, it’s the power.

  25. 100% to McCoy? says:

    If Herbster truly cares about the state, why not spread some of that $860k around a bit? Giving 100% of it to McCoy seems weird, especially since he really went out on a limb and said he wasn’t allowed to give it back to himself (yeah, nobody’s buying that).

    How about a nice $10k donation to the NEGOP, and maybe even a couple thousand for each of the awesome conservative candidates running for legislature? What good is a Governor when the legislature over-rides all of his/her vetos anyway?

  26. Check out Deadspin’s followup post. Lots of big clues there about where the leak came from. There’s also an independent transcript of the remarks.

    My uninformed opinion is that Bo will coach the season out, and is gone. He’s a classic example of the Peter Principle; a great defensive coordinator who was promoted one too many times. I’ve seen the man on TV; it’s clear he has a foul mouth and is completely unable to manage his temper. But now, the people who hate him — and there seem to be a whole lot of them — are coming out of the woodwork. Some of them are going to be boosters, and you know what happened to Solich, who had a better record than Pelini.

  27. @43 says:

    Well, you are figuring it out! Much about harpster is weird. He still thinks he is running, in his goofy mind and way of thinking. He should spend the entire sum on getting serious help for his disorders, might not be enuf for a cure tho.

  28. PistolAnnie says:

    Lots of hate on Herbster. But I hear the Janssen team needs contributions to the beer fund. Shame on Herbster for backing McCoy. tisk tisk.

  29. Anonymostly says:

    Whoa, holy mackerel! That Bo thing. Thanks for pointing me back to Deadspin, RWP.

    There is a very small universe of people who might have had this. Or had access to be able to record it when it happened and make a copy of it. And that someone decided to keep hold of it and not disseminate it until they could lay their best trump card. This was obviously a very strategic leak. And it’s clear Bo has some enemies who have resources. Because the leaker wasn’t the person who made the recording. Otherwise, they would have known who was on that tape with Bo.

    This has been passed around by people who are not in the athletic department. That’s the only reason they would not have immediately recognized the female to be Chris Anderson. So someone recorded it. Copied it. Gave it to someone they knew would want it (and not simply for their own edification) and that person has managed to keep it pretty much under wraps ever since.

    NRG media is the company that owns KLIN radio in Lincoln. The latest from Deadspin points in that direction as the original source of the recording. KLIN, I believe, is where the signal originates for the Husker Radio Network. One might conclude from what’s on Deadspin that someone at KLIN hit “record.” Someone else at KLIN heard the recording, copied it, and gave it to someone, probably a booster, whom they knew to be a Bo detractor. And that person basically sat on it until now. That’s about the only explanation that makes sense.

    Someone wants Bo gone. Possibly, perhaps probably, someone of influence.

  30. Macdaddy says:

    I actually don’t care about a 2 year old recording. I care about a game 3 second half meltdown that should not be occurring with a fifth year senior with 42 starts under his belt. I care about a weak schedule that suddenly doesn’t look so weak. I care about coaches who somehow can’t get it done despite plenty of talent. But Pelini losing his temper? In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

  31. More Cowbell! says:

    After the undeserved blackshirts and the so-called Husker offense get blown out by the South Dakota State School for the Deaf and Blind? Bye, bye, Bo-Bo.

  32. Anonymous says:

    Nebraska Watchdog may want to re-think that prohibition on writing about the Governors’ race. It is going to be the nastiest, knock down deal, far worse than the Senate race which is shaping up to be a snore in comparison. If NW is simply up front about Ricketts’ involvement with their blog and they report accurately, without bias, they should be able to enter the fray. Really, they’re going to miss all the fun.

  33. anonymous says:

    As much as there is apparently no love loss between campaign employees, I don’t see any campaigns going horribly negative in advertising. Some off the cuff remarks may spark convo but other than that, I think advertising will stay generally tasteful.

  34. anonymous says:

    Another scathing report for Nebraska HHS. Someone (anyone…. anyone… bueller?… Heineman?) please give top brass in that department a good butt kicking on their way out! I thought this state was run by Republicans, but apparently the wagon is pulling the horses and big gov’t beaurocrats have taken over.

  35. Unknownymous says:

    I don’t think a beer summit is going to calm things down much with this bunch. Not even if it’s called by the Great Obama. Jannsen will be reaching for his third before half the room gets their first one, Ricketts probably only drinks imported Scotch, McCoy only drinks when someone else is picking up the tab, Foley looks more like a wino and Carlson probably frowns on anything as strong as sparkling grape juice.

  36. anonymous says:

    perfect! Ricketts can pick up the tab, thus Beau can have one on him, Foley doesn’t have to be shy about ordering a pricey wine, Carlson can continue to sit on the sideline, and Pete won’t mind paying for many of CJ’s Busch lights, on account of their being cheap.

  37. Buffalo Wild Wings General Manager says:

    Charlie Jannsen is an articulate, classy man. Nebraska’s next Governor should be able to finish the wing’s challenge. I’ll be you 860K Beau McCoy couldn’t do it.

  38. Joe L says:

    Yes this governors race is going to be the nasty we have ever seen. It’s going to be a long bloody war. That will only end up damageing the primary winner.

  39. hesdeadjim says:

    soooo can we all agree then that the Senate race is over and just start calling shane “Senator Osborn”?

    Sorry Sad… I mean Sid.

  40. I curious... says:

    While it would seem that Janssen’s staff is being relentless on here about McCoy.  I’m curious how much of it is the Rickett’s crew posing as though they’re Janssen staff.  That way you get say anything you want, stir a fake feud between the two other campaigns and attempt to drive up the negative perception of both.

    I have a suggestion.  Give it a rest (whichever camp you’re from) and start proving why your guy is the best candidate without the lame sidebars.  You act like you’re in a school yard.

  41. James Crumley says:

    “Son, never trust a man who doesn’t drink because he’s probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They’re the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They’re usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they’re a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can’t trust a man who’s afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It’s damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he’s heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl.”

  42. Interested Observer says:

    Seriously, how can you “trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet”? Didn’t he remember what happened the last time he drank too much? Is this the sort of decision making that we want to lead the state? I’m more inclined to trust someone who has actually learned something along the way in life and applies that hard earned knowledge in the future.

  43. Interested Observer says:

    Yes, WKRP, but I LEARNED from that! The first thing that I learned was that the hangover can last a lot longer than the party. The second thing that I learned was that I did not enjoy the hangover and that I try to avoid going through all of that again.

    Someone might not remember wearing the lampshade or the other foolish things, but you should remember how miserable the hangover was and you should learn from that/those experiences.

    Therefore, I do not trust “a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet”, the operative word being “occasionally”.

  44. Interested Observer says:

    By the way, WKRP, even our Nebraska Republican National Committee Woman, Dr. Joyce Simmons, famously said in a Valentine City Council Meeting, “I just don’t think that alcohol is as good of an idea as it used to be.”.

    Are you going to disagree with her now?

  45. No, that wasn’t the point at all. The point is, once you’ve had a few, reason and judgement and even memory go out the window, and so does the prospect of learning from the last experience.

    FWIW, I also don’t think alcohol is as good of an idea as it used to be.

  46. WeeDram says:

    Any Australian, Irish or German woman can drink any American male under the table. So ease up on the Marlboro Man routine. The Duke is dead. All the cowpokes around here are talking big while riding side saddle.

    Saw an old guy drop his teeth in a urinal in Singapore. Shook them off and put them back in. That’s drunk.

  47. Macdaddy says:

    There are few men who think more highly of themselves than drunkards trying to sound like Hemingway. If you want to get drunk, then get drunk. Quit trying to put lipstick on it. Cocktail was just a movie. You are not the Most Interesting Man in the World.

  48. Interested Observer says:

    Just make up new subtitles for the big scene in the movie “The Downfall” and when Hitler flies into a rage and is pounding his fist on his desk, have him say “I’m NOT a f—— fair-weather f—— fan and I won’t kiss his ass out the f—— door.”

  49. Ricky says:

    Can somebody ask Senator Charlie Janssen if he thinks sensible gun restrictions would have stopped the massacre at the Navy Yard in DC?
    Janssen is a Navy Combat veteran don’t forget and a lover of the 2nd Amendment.
    Haven’t heard from Janssen on this yet wonder why.


  50. Macdaddy says:

    Ricky, you have got to be kidding me. I realize that liberals are dense and have no desire to let facts get in the way of their preferred narrative, but trying to exploit this for the purposes of gun control is a stretch even for you. The guy followed Biden’s advice and got a shotgun. What more is there to talk about?

  51. Anonymous says:

    We feel sophisticated being Corn Huskers rather than Bug Eaters. Our mascot a hydrocephalic. Our coach looks and behaves like a like a ground sloth. And once, after finding our bicameral legislature teetering on two legs, we had the legs sewn together into one big clod hopper.

    Why would anyone make fun of us?

    Still, if we win, its all good.

  52. Nebraska Voter says:

    Jeff Fortenberry proved he is Rhino today as he broke away from the Republican Majority and joined the Pelosi camp by voting against modest food stamp reform. Shame on you Jeff!

  53. Vocab word of the day says:

    Nebraska Voter – I am confused about your “rhino” comment. When you appoint yourself the keeper of the GOP platform and you judge that someone has grievously strayed, it’s not that they become a rhinoceros (rHino) instead of an elephant or a donkey. I think the insult you were looking for was Republican In Name Only or R.I.N.O. Don’t be afraid of the google, it’s your friend.

  54. GOP KoolAid says:

    Obama talks about tax cuts for the middle class and Romney talks about the 47% and lectures about why corporations are people too. The Democrats’ ideas are not better than ours – but their candidates and/or their candidate message delivery is. And in what closed door session did these genius’ decide that crusading against food stamps was a winning strategy? Are you kidding me? Yes, let’s get principled about taking food away from vulnerable children and seniors, even though the senate version cut more than $4 Billion out of the program and it’s only 2% of the overall budget. Yes, of course, when it comes to squandering taxpayer money, I’m sure it’s being done with money spent on food insecure households. And THIS is the issue where we draw the line in the sand, this is how we appeal to swing voters. This issue will take us all the way to the White House. OMG. I’m not a Fortenberry fan myself, but seriously people – pull your heads out of your asses long enough to read the ingredients in your KoolAid.

  55. Lil Mac says:

    Call it pragmatism or pandering but those who grasp that voters vote emotionally, as much or more than they vote rationally, win.

    Political principles are vital to creating good government but voters don’t vote based on principles. They just don’t. Voters make up their hearts before their minds. Even the politically astute have strong like-or-dislike immediacy for a candidate and only later look for reasons to bolster that impression.

    Human beings are animals who like to think we never think like animals. But we all do and all the time. It’s a mix, of course, of rationality and emotion. But the first in the door is always emotion. And that matters if you are soliciting votes.

    Voters like to think they are rational and principled but if you show up with some pretty principles and bad body odor, you lose. Taking a bath, or acting compassionate about those on food stamps, such things are deemed to be pandering only if voters vote entirely rationally. They don’t.

    Romney had sound doctrine. Sound doctrine is useless if you are not in power to enact it.

  56. Yes, let’s get principled about taking food away from vulnerable children and seniors, even though the senate version cut more than $4 Billion out of the program and it’s only 2% of the overall budget.

    Did you read the proposal? It puts a work requirement on Food Stamp recipients and removes categorical qualification. It has nothing to do with seniors or children.

  57. Anonymous says:

    GH, you’re smarter than that. How does this not affect children? If you have parents who lose food stamps because of the new requirements (must be working, but we still have > 7% unemployment!) then it’s the kids that’ll go hungry.

  58. Macdaddy says:

    The work/job training requirements only fall on those adults without minor children. The kids don’t go hungry. BTW, the unemployment rate is 7.3. That’s 4 points lower than when The One began his Great Work to save us from the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression. Why do 1 in 6 Americans still need food stamps?

  59. Anonymous says:

    Macdaddy, you are only partly correct:

    Republicans also want states to be able to require working-age SNAP recipients with children older than one year to obey the work requirements outlined in the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, meaning at least 20 hours per week at a job, volunteering, or participating in a state-run training or work-search program. But the legislation doesn’t require states to make space available to SNAP recipients in such a program. Since it would allow states to keep half the savings from reduced enrollment, critics like Greenstein say the bill essentially pays states to kick people off food stamps.

    SS, sorry for the cut/paste, but this makes the point clear.

  60. GH, you’re smarter than that. How does this not affect children? If you have parents who lose food stamps because of the new requirements (must be working, but we still have > 7% unemployment!) then it’s the kids that’ll go hungry.

    I’m certainly better informed than you. The work requirement applies to childless adults.

  61. I think it’s amusing the way our Anonymous pal started by claiming we’d be taking food stamps from vulnerable children and seniors, then switched to claim it would take it away from parents, and is now bemoaning that it allows (not requires) states to withdraw support from some categories of non-working parents. Talk about a shifting target!

    We saw the same nonsense when we were trying to reform welfare.

  62. More Cowbell! says:

    Macdaddy wrote, “BTW, the unemployment rate is 7.3. That’s 4 points lower than when The One began his Great Work to save us from the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression.”

    Imagine what it could be if the GOP leadership weren’t acting like a bunch of spoiled babies with their diapers full of crap, screaming “NO!” to every proposal that could turn things around.

  63. More Cowbell! says:

    Now that our neighbors in Colorado need the federal government to survive their recent disaster, the children in Washington want to shut the government down just because they can’t have their way on one issue.
    President Obama should send the Tomahawks into the GOP House Caucus. They’re doing more harm to America than Assad ever did.

  64. Anonymous says:

    Welcome to real life, GH (not academia). Nothing shifted; only details and consequences were fleshed out. The final result will be kids going hungry. You don’t think states like Nebraska would love to save money by requiring parents with young kids to work before getting food stamps? You really are a strange mix. An intelligent person whose intelligence is eclipsed by ideology.

  65. I expect the federal government will indeed be busy in Colorado, helping people rebuild expensive homes on a 25 year floodplain, just as they helped them rebuild homes on the Atlantic coast after Sandy — homes that no private insurer would touch.

    Thus they prepare the next disaster, so they can continue to show how indispensable they are.

  66. 12:42: You’re now on you’re third version.

    Nebraska has low unemployment. You were claiming that we couldn’t make people work because unemployment is so high. Obviously that doesn’t apply here.

    You can’t maintain a consistent argument. Maybe what you think is ideology is simply coherent thought, something that seems alien to you?

  67. More Cowbell! says:

    Gerard. This flooding in Colorado was a once in a millennium occurrence. A good many of the people that have lost their homes, cars, pets, livelihoods, and in some cases – their lives, certainly were NOT living in really expensive homes on a 25 year flood plain. Your logic is flawed. But, then again, isn’t it always?
    You really are a heartless bastard.

  68. Anonymous says:

    GH and his ilk always cherry pick the worst possible and statistically unusual cases to make their points. They also like to change initial conditions if that suits their purposes. Dishonesty is fine if it wins the argument.

    Hate to break it to GH, but Nebraska is one of 50 states. Unemployment is still quite a problem in many of the other 49. Cowbell has you pegged.

  69. No, it wasn’t once in a millennium occurrence. Check out Roger Pielke Jr.’s blog for a pretty good analysis. Roger lives in Boulder.

    Boulder is an affluent university town. But if logic and facts aren’t on your side, certainly invoking dead pets and flinging insults is an alternative.

    “Somebody’s kitty drowned! We must raise taxes!”

    It’s clear one of us is a manipulative low-life.

  70. BWAHAHAHA! Somebody invoked the Boulder flood as a once-in-a-millenium occurrence, and I’m accused of using statistically unusual cases! And the guy who has changed his story twice is accusing me of changing ‘initial conditions’. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    Indeed, unemployment is high in some states, and lower in others. It therefore might make sense to allow states to impose a work requirement, while not requiring them to do so. Why didn’t the GOP do that? Oh wait, they did.

  71. Anonymous says:

    And by giving states incentive to require parents with young children to work, it’s logical (and human nature) to assume that some states will do this. There’s just something defective in your thought processes if you can’t realize or accept this conclusion.

    GH, your response to #121 is simply irrational. An event was tagged as statistically unusual (which it is) to defend an extraordinary response. You, on the other hand, tend to take a statistically unusual event and pretend as if it were usual and common. What a hack!!!

  72. Macdaddy says:

    More Cowbell, Republicans had numerous proposals to get things rolling and the House passed many of them. Obama wouldn’t give them the time of day. This is the longest, slowest recovery ever and it is due to the policies Obama put in place his first 2 years. Did you forget that the Rats controlled Congress Owebama’s first 2 years? BTW, what’s wrong with people working? There are plenty of charities that would like the help and that would qualify. At the same time, doing charity work improves ones’ resume thus increasing your chances at a job.

  73. And by giving states incentive to require parents with young children to work, it’s logical (and human nature) to assume that some states will do this. There’s just something defective in your thought processes if you can’t realize or accept this conclusion.

    You’re saying states cannot be trusted to govern in the best interests of their citizens, and should be compelled to do so by a federal government, which for some reason does govern in the best interests of its citizens, except this time it did not?

    And if I don’t agree with your conclusion, I must have a mental defect.

    This is seriously amusing.

    Regarding your second point, you said GH and his ilk always cherry pick the worst possible and statistically unusual cases to make their points.. Now you say someone else chose the event, and that I claimed it was not statistically unusual, which is pretty much the opposite of what you said before.

    Let’s keep going with this. I’m having fun.

  74. Macdaddy says:

    The reason that the government has to step in in places like Boulder is because people now expect them to and plan for them to. If the government would quit doing that them insurance rates would rise to reflect the increased risk and then maybe there wouldn’t be so much development in ecologically fragile areas. As it is now, the government makes it no risk to be foolish.

  75. In fact, FEMA aid is very much welfare for the rich. Owners of large luxury homes have the largest losses, and at the same times those homes tend to be located on the coast, or up on wooded mountainswith high wildfire risk, or along creeks — areas most prone to disasters.

    When I lived on Long Island, the beautiful beach houses in Westhampton would be damaged by storms about once every five years, and every five years, the gummint would reimburse the owners, they’d repair their houses, and it would all start again.

    it’s not just that this artificially reduces insurance costs; in many places, buying private insurance is impossible, because the risk is so high.

  76. Macdaddy says:

    I would think that the self-styled party of the environment would favor eliminating or severely curtailing FEMA to help out Mother Nature. Sadly, though, with the mega-rich paying most of the Democrat Party bills, ain’t never gonna happen.

  77. if memory serves... says:

    Who remembers when Jean negotiated a shiny new fire union contract? Then she took all the credit.

    Then crabity said “assuming 8% return on pension fund” was dumb. Everyone said “Dave you’re just sexist, now go away.”

    Now it seems 8% is a bit lofty in the eyes of other people who actually matter. I like jean stothert, but my point here is that we must hold our fellow R’s accountable.

  78. Harold Garbageson says:

    I know of one instance where something happened that supports my biases and that proves that I am always right. I’ve got mine and screw you if you didn’t get any. Why don’t those poor people that don’t have a pot to pee in spend what few resources they do have working for free for one of my corporations so that I can call it charity and get a nice tax write-off? Let the bastards eat cake!

  79. Interested Observer says:

    So WKRP, is “welfare for the rich” a good thing or a bad thing or does it depend on which rich person we’re talking about? I think that I’ve made it clear in here that I oppose welfare in general and one specific form of welfare in particular.

    In fact, I would now like to state that I DO oppose welfare for farmers. I recently attended a farm equipment show and I was appalled by the excesses on display at that show, from the incredibly expensive vehicles in the parking lot to the unstainably ever higher prices for the equipment and inputs, by the general behavior of not only the welfare rich farmers themselves, but also the behavior of the enormous population of the ag support industry, the equipment manufacturers and dealers, the seed corn companies, the chemical industry and all the rest. Most of the exhibitors were dressed in polo style shirts and khaki shorts, like they were all ready to go to the country club to play golf for the day. Then, it occured to me that this place WAS a country club, with an incredibly high membership dues, obviously in the millions of dollars each, much of it taken from the American taxpayer, either directly or indirectly. The contrast between grain farmers and cattle ranchers was huge!

    On a different subject, since the unemployment rate has fallen, shouldn’t the number of people who legitimately qualify for food stamps ALSO have fallen, and doesn’t it stand to reason then, that the number of dollars spent on that program should also have fallen by now? Therefore, why in the world would we possibly need to continue funding food stamps at the temporarily high level of the worst years of the recession? Those unemployment numbers were an anonimly, not a baseline to be used to justify ever more and more spending.

  80. Anonymous says:

    Interested Observer said, “I think… I’ve made… I oppose… I would now… I DO… I recently… I was… it occured (sic) to me…”

    If there were any rational points to be made, they were obscured by this pathologically turgid ego stroking itself in public.

  81. Anonymous says:

    How is it the Moenning family controls everything GOP from Fortenberry to Ricketts to Foley to Fulton to Welch? Some significant big money losses in there, but the family certainly knows how to be everywhere there is either a tax or campaign dollar. Can’t wait to see what Dylan does to manage Foley a win with no money.

  82. Macdaddy says:

    From 2008, the number of people getting food stamps has increased by 77%. The amount spent on food stamps has increased by almost 120% since 2008. And we can’t cut that back by 5% from the expected increase? We actually aren’t cutting anything. Food stamps will increase from $74B to $76B under the Republican plan next year. Democrats are being disingenuous and irresponsible attacking this plan. We are still broke. Our debt is still rising despite what Obama says. Much like al Queda, our deficit problem is not going away no matter how much Obama wishes it to. Rather than leadership, we get still more rounds of golf.

  83. Macdaddy says:

    All I have to say is the players have it in their power to get the coach fired. I don’t care what his former players say about him.

  84. Macdaddy says:

    That is true. And we were kicking the real team’s ass for almost a half but then the offense went on an extended coffee break with 4 minutes to go in the half and the defense found itself on an island. Today the offense was aggressive and took care of business. Big difference when you have a QB who isn’t hurt. We saw that with Zach Lee and several times with Martinez.

  85. We proved one thing today; we’d be a powerhouse if only we played in the FCS.

    The ability of Husker fans to delude themselves about NU athletics never ceases to amaze me.

    (1) Bo Pelini is simply not smart enough to be head coach of a top 25 team

    (2) He also spends large amounts of time totally out of control. Grown men can learn not to use the F word in every sentence. Really.

    (3) Saint Thomas of Osborne was a cynical win at all costs coach who hid behind a veil of sanctimony. He knowingly played violent hoodlums, knowing full well what they were, interfered with legal processes and tampered with witnesses. Fellowship of Christian Athletes my royal atheistic Irish ass.

    (4) TO is the rule, not the exception. Husker AD personnel still attempt to influence the courts to get athletes far more lenient treatment than your average 20 year old thug.

    (5) I still can’t believe someone who ran over a motorcyclist, breaking his leg, and then fled the scene, didn’t do a day in jail. Oh yeah, coach’s daughter. Good luck asking for the same treatment for your kid.

    And the real fools are you and me, the citizens of the state, who let them away with this in return for some mediocre entertainment on Saturday afternoons. Are you really excited the Huskers beat the SDSU jackrabbits? Really?

  86. Macdaddy says:

    I am excited they beat the Jackrabbits. I agree with you about Pelini. In the 24 years TO was a head coach, I am sure he made a few mistakes among the hundreds and hundreds of kids he recruited, but I bet his hiring record (if you think of recruits as hires) is way better than most successful companies. In case you hadn’t noticed, RWP, Nebraska isn’t quite the tough-on-crime state that everyone thinks it is.

  87. Macdaddy says:

    What’s his name Jenkins even begged Ernie Chambers to stay in jail and our judicial system ignored multiple offenses and rules and kicked him out. It seems like DUI in this state only results in a small fine despite multiple offenses. You will only get 2-3 years for killing your kid. I admit that these are just my perceptions and I don’t have stats to back them up, but my point is that plenty of Nebraskans get leniency from our judicial system and they aren’t all athletes.

  88. gameday says:

    “Who will Pelini endorse for #NEGOV?” Until recently, that would be his blackmailer Tom Osborne.

    Osborne has protected not his legacy as a winning coach but used that legacy as an excuse to keep a personal stable of follow-on coaches under his control. This is the same Osborne who bowed out of sports administration in 2000 to run for Congress in a district he hadn’t lived in since 1964, and then rode a wave of NE fan-cum-voter adulation until he wore out his welcome when Nebraskans rejected him for State Governor by 12 points statewide, in his own primary, and by a whopping 16 points in his own congressional district. After that bitter humiliation, Osborne returned to being NU’s AD, he hired Pelini as head coach, and in April 2011 Osborn got Pelini a $425,000 raise to $2.775 million. Six months later, in October 2011, Pelini was secretly recorded ranting against NE fans who pay his salary. Pelini was frustrated that fans were frustrated.

    Pelini’s frustration is forgivable. What Osborne calmly did next isn’t.

    One year after Pelini’s rant, in October 2012, Osborne heard the rant, he talked to Pelini, and then Osborne retired as athletic director that same month, replaced by Eichorst, and yet Osborne didn’t tell Eichhorst or the Chancellor or about Pelini’s rant. Why? Obviously to protect Osborne’s personal stable of coaches and to let him sit at home knowing he could call Pelini and order him to run this or that play.

    Nebraskans are so naïve they think legislators can magically be honest without a second house. With that same astounding level of naiveté, Nebraskans constantly demand they be given saviors to worship; men like Kerrey, Hagel, Nelson, and Osborne, who Nebraskan’s trust like saints until the halos tarnish beyond recognition. Yet even extreme naivety has its limits. Osborne found this in politics and now in blackmailing Pelini. Or is blackmail too strong a word? What would you call it?

    Pelini was a great defensive coordinator and he may yet become a great head coach, now that he doesn’t have Osborne riding on Pelini’s back. This rant thing being in the open is good for Pelini, and it makes Tom shut up and just watch the game like the rest of us.

  89. Interested Observer says:

    It’s interesting that some attack articles about TO are praised, while other OWH articles about a candidate for public office are assailed as hatchet jobs.

  90. Tonic & Tonic says:

    Please, continue with your mindless drivell as the rest of us contemplate serious questions. Husker football may be interesting, but really, seriously, nobody gives a shit. We suck this year and a Natty is out out of the question. Pelini will, no doubt be the coach for the next 5 years at least.

    Best regards,

    Tonic & Tonic

  91. Interested Observer says:

    Well, around 91,471 people DO “give a s____” about Husker football, in person at the games, as well as the tens upon tens of thousands more who watch or listen to the games on TV and radio. The UNL Athletic Department has an annual budget of well over $80 million and just spent around $65 million on the most recent expansion project. Those of us who do support Cornhusker athletics with our donations and our football season ticket purchases for almost 50 years DO “give a s___”.

    Also, if one is going to dismiss others comments as “mindless drivell”, one might spell it as “drivel”.

  92. Interested Observer says:


    Jessica Moenning just got fired from her position on Pete RIcketts’ Platte Institute!

    Not clear yet if she’s still involved in Pete’s campaign for Governor or not, yet.

    More later

  93. Anonymous says:

    Another bombshell from IO. YAWN. Based on IO’s track record of slamming people, Jessica will probably end up being a U.S. Senator.

  94. Anonymous says:

    I saw a new GOP message about defunding Obamacare, the aim of which is to leave “Republicans in an advantageous position”. How typically suicidal of the GOP. Screw trying to gain extra-party consensus on the issue for an outcome that would be good for all Americans. Instead let’s just advance party principles at all costs. Don’t seek out non-Republicans who agree with us on this one issue but rather demand they think exactly like us on all matters or we reject them utterly. That way we Republicans can keep forcing voters to elect one Obama after another.

    Why isn’t the GOP seeking cooperation of Democrat Unions that hate Obamacare? Where is the big tent on important issues?

    Former Democrat Union SAG President Ronald Reagan became Republican President Reagan. His big tent meant Republicans tucked their partisan principles into their back pockets and then warmly welcomed all sorts of non-Republicans who had the same specific goal on this or that one vital issue. Vital issues not partisan principles. Reagan didn’t confuse the two.

  95. Tekel says:



    Stick to observing, IO, you’re horrible at reporting. Moenning, as her boss Ricketts did as he began a gov’s race, quit the Platte Institute, an increasingly irrelevant “think tank” on a full-on death spiral since Jim Vokal took over. When’s the last time you saw an original idea there? Not under Vokal. The Open Sky Institute is running circles around it.

  96. stranded in scottsbluff says:

    Neither platte institute nor jim vokal were anywhere to be found in scottsbluff today at the opening public hearing of the Tax Modernization Committee. Wait, why would they be, given they might have to venture out further than 168th Street? Open Sky, on the other hand, was all over it, and has been prepping witnesses for each of the hearing sites.

  97. Ricky says:

    And don’t forget how Tom Osborne stabbed Bill Callahan and Steve Pederson in the back while a congressman. The great Billy C complained that TO was meddling from DC.
    Then also remember that Osborne held an “alternative” golf outing the same day as the official golf tournament and handed out pieces of papers with stats showing how great his teams were.
    He got back in power, thanks to unnamed boosters that paid out Callahan and Pederson. (I think it was Howard Hawks or David Sokol or both).
    Since then T O did a crappy job as AD, with no conference championships in his years at the helm.
    To top it off he probably is lying when he said he counseled BO a year ago about the tape.
    TO is part of the problem now. He and the clueless BO.

    ricky from omaha

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