Calling in to KLIN’s Drive Time Lincoln, Heineman talked with Kevin Thomas about the recent controversy with the release of misinformation by Governor Ricketts’ office regarding Heineman’s out-of-state travel while Governor.
But he also answered a few other pointed questions from Thomas:
Thomas: Do you ever get the itch to get back in, somehow, have you closed the book on a political career?
Heineman: Well, I don’t think you ever say never. I enjoy it. I like it. I stay close to it.
Thomas: If you ever do get back into politics, are you thinking about an office, what’s that look like for you if you do get back in?
Heineman: You know, I don’t know what I’d tell ya about that, per se, at this stage, but I would say is I get a lot of calls from elected officials who ask me about issues. I get calls from business leaders, ‘well how should we handle this, what should we be doing?’ And particularly I received a lot of calls regarding this Con Agra situation and what it means.
Thomas: Would you ever consider running for Governor again in Nebraska?
Heineman: You know, right now that’s not my focus. Again you never say ‘never’ to something like that. But again, right now I’m enjoying my time as a private citizen. I appreciate the opportunity to help other elected officials to share whatever experience I have that may be helpful to them. And again I want to do all I can to make sure Nebraska’s moving forward. That’s important to me.
To hear the whole interview, you can go to KLIN and play or download it.
And here is a short snippet of the above, to hear the inflection, etc. from Heineman…
Polling vs Heineman?
So, is former Governor Heineman planning to be future Governor Heineman?
He was asked three times, and didn’t give a George Costanza, “Get outta here!” any time.
He certainly mentioned that he likes to stay involved and interested in politics, government and the future of Nebraska.
Does that mean Dave 2.0?
Maybe this is why people were noting that Ricketts had polled– yes polled — Ricketts vs Heineman in the past.
What he DIDN’T say
Well, you could say this, Heineman’s comments about Ricketts had a certain…undercurrent to them.
The most surprising part was when Thomas asked Heineman if he and Ricketts had a good relationship.
Absolutely. In fact, I won’t go into the details, but a couple weeks ago, Governor Ricketts called me on a Sunday afternoon and we chatted for an hour as we talked about how we work with the Legislature, things you ought to be thinking ahead to, future issues, you’re gonna have to deal with. So I feel like I have a very good relationship with the Governor.
But then, once again, Heineman dropped the hammer…
Now I don’t know what his staff was doing here…
And the fact that Heineman did chat with Ricketts previously has got to really chap him when he notes his staff DIDN’T contact him about the travel issue.
But Heineman subtly notes the differences between him and Ricketts…
The overwhelming amount of my time, when I went outside the state, was professional in nature.
Unlike, say, going to the baseball wild-card game in Pittsburgh.
I went down to Cuba, where we secured a $30 million trade deal. I went to China, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan where we had a $400 million trade deal that we negotiated for Nebraska.
Unlike, say, the Ricketts trade “promotion” trips to Europe and Asia.
The best thing I could tell any Governor is just be upfront about it, fully disclose everything you’re doing.
Unlike, say, dragging out a reporter for three months about where you’ve been traveling and how much it costs.
We particularly have to watch what’s going on with this Con Agra situation…We’ve gotta stay on top of it, we’ve got to get ahead of the power curve.
As opposed to trying to change minds long after a company’ has made their moving decisions.
Heineman has been relatively quiet over the past 10 months that he has been out of office. But when he feels that the media is getting something wrong, he hasn’t had a problem stepping up.
And no doubt, some of the back-biting against Heineman from those around Governor Ricketts is getting back to former Governor Dave.
And his chat on KLIN let him vent, just subtly, about that.
The Transparent truth
To read more on this, you can see Nebraska Watchdog’s Deena Winter’s summary of the KLIN interview, as well as her Travels with Pete series on the Ricketts travel issues.
And an important note on all that:
Deena Winter has been hounding the Ricketts admin and the State Patrol for three months to release all of these travel records.
She quizzed the Governor’s office. They sent her to the State Patrol. They wouldn’t release much. She hounded them some more. Made FOIA requests.
So finally, they give in… and Taylor Gage releases some info — and gives it to both Deena Winter AND the Omaha World-Herald.
So the OWH says,
…the Governor’s Office, in response to press queries, released a spreadsheet prepared by the patrol that provided a breakdown of the overtime hours and trips taken by the governor.
And Governor Ricketts’ press flack says,
…the new information was provided out of a desire to be transparent about the overtime issue.
Yeah well, the “press queries” were Deena Winter. And her series of articles about being stonewalled on the issue.
But of course, the OWH couldn’t credit another news source for getting all this info.
And Taylor Gage isn’t noting it either.
“A desire to be transparent“???!
Maybe a desire to LOOK transparent.
After stonewalling for three months.
What’s going on here?
And here’s the final note on all this:
Chatting with several people yesterday, about Governor Ricketts, and the hassles of the office, and being rated as “Struggling” over his first legislative session, and watching his brothers and sister on TV having fun at the Cubs games while he has to commute back and forth between Lincoln and Omaha…
Two unrelated people, said they hear Ricketts…doesn’t like being Governor.
It’s a hassle with little reward.
It’s a headache to get anything done.
The press is always looking over your shoulder.
And he’s away from his young family.
To hear one person tell you, that is one thing.
To hear it from more than that, out of the blue, in a span of a day, is interesting to say the least.
Is this the case of the barking dog who finally catches the mail truck?
What does he do next?
And of course, Nashville is on…
Oy vey! Here’s MY problem about what to do with my riches…of choices on TV tonight!
The 3rd GOP debate and the World Series (Go Royals!!!) are on at the same time! What to do???
Well, I’m going to do my best to either reconfigure multiple TVs or somehow master the picture-in-picture application on the tele (which has confounded me…).
So, point being, TO THE TWITTER-SPHERE!
Twitter is the best way to enjoy the debate tonight. Follow Leavenworth St. as I take part in the witty (that’s right, witty) Tweeting repartee amongst political followers. And take a look at my Twitter Debate List, and follow that as well, to get the most out of it from others tweeting along.
And I’ll also keep the other eye on the ball game.
(Of course, if it’s anything like last night, the game will end around 3 hours after the debate anyway…)
And please pass it along to your friends because that’s how we grow!
See you tonight!