Tuesday Morning Links

Phony JerryThere will be a noon/1pm post as well, but first some Morning Links!

Dr. Ben Carson makes a great point:

“I find it interesting that they’re willing to use the term ISIS, because the ‘I’ in ISIS is ‘Islamic.'”

Isn’t the Obama Administration’s whole point that ISIS doesn’t represent real Islam?

Well,  if you missed it, be sure to see this Facebook post about the confusion facing the Islamic Jihadists…

Jihadists

 

 

Declining Mob

The Washington Post reports that Jeb Bush is telling supporters that by next GOP debate, “Trump will be in decline.

Well, could be.

Then again, here was Trump in Tennessee…

For a guy in decline, that’s some crowd.

 

You know, how people say, He’s Bad, means he’s good!

And U.S. News and World Report hits the continuing Rubio-Cruz spat:

Marco Rubio’s campaign is now calling Ted Cruz a “phony.”

But hey, maybe he meant it as a compliment!
You know, like, “Man that Michael Jordan is so phony!

 

Latah

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31 comments

  1. get real says:

    Of course, destroying an enemy nation with nuclear weapons is an option. Terrorists and commandos are point players we can never individually stop. We win wars by turning their homeland into molten glass. That is how we won WWII and we haven’t won any wars since, not really.

    If you kill enough of them they will quit fighting. And by that, I mean their base of sustenance. And by that I mean their civilian populations for that is what Islam requires here. Not wants but requires.

    The tolerance that is secular Western voting/freedom is an economic powerhouse that doesn’t mind living with Islam because Islam, a submission-based flat economic system, is by comparison crap.

    Of course we can live with Islam. It is Islam that cannot live with us.

    Because Islam cannot compete economically, it is only “best” if everyone else are reduced to cavemen. An utterly dead USA is precisely what ISIL and its founders in Saudi Arabia need. Every branch of Islam, Sunni, Shite etc., has this same need to wipe us out because Islam doesn’t work compared to freedom. Islam is a religion like Nazi belief in Hitler was religion. Its not religion. Nothing even close.

      • Annie, I don’t usually bother with some of your comments, but I am just curious how on earth you come up with that one based on this post?

        I link a comment about Carson and the name and basis of ISIS.
        About crowds for Trump.
        And about Rubio vs Cruz.

        Where is “promoting war” involved there?

        Or maybe I’m just shocked that you didn’t toss in something about “tax justice” (oh no…).

        And thanks for reading.
        -Ed.

      • The Grundle King says:

        Oh, clearly TA…which is why you directed your comment at ‘Leavenworth St.’ rather than at ‘get real’.

  2. Sparkles says:

    Dr. Ben Carson does NOT make a great point.
    Dr. Ben Carson makes a sophomoric, inane point.

    “Isn’t the whole point that ISIS doesn’t represent real Islam?”

    ISIS represents the religion of Islam in the same exact fashion that Army of God member, Scott Roeder, represents Christianity. The Scott Roeder that on Sunday, May 32, 2009 visited on the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, KS where put a gun to the head of Dr. George Tiller and repeatedly pulled the trigger.
    The same Scott Roeder for whom a quick google will produce ‘christian’ web sites and religious groups who, to this day, celebrate Scott Roeder as a hero.

    ISIS represent the religion of Islam in the same exact fashion Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson represents Christianity.
    Mr. Adkisson walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, seven others were injured.

    ISIS represents the religion of Islam in the same exact manner that Wade Michael Page represents Christianity. Mr. Page, a white supremacist who was fond of talking about the “impending racial holy war”, used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

    Violence in the name of Christianity has long and sordid history. The Crusades and the Inquisition are obvious examples.
    Even slavery was justified, by some, with Bible in hand.

    • TexasAnnie says:

      I read that the replacement term is now ‘daesh’ among world leaders. So Islam and Muslim can refer to those who “do not want to kill us.”

    • The Grundle King says:

      “Sunday, May 32, 2009” (***snicker***)

      See Sparkles (TA, notice how I named the person whom I wish to address?), the problem with your whole hypothesis that ‘ISIS represents Islam like Scott Roeder represents Christians’ is that a whole lot of pro-choice liberals actually do believe that Scott Roeder DOES represent pro-life Christians…and that the only thing stopping us from murdering the likes of Kermit Gosnell or LeRoy Carhart is the fear of imprisonment.

      • Sparkles says:

        GK,

        You claim:
        “a whole lot of pro-choice liberals actually do believe that Scott Roeder DOES represent pro-life Christians…”

        Pure fantasy.
        More precisely, psychological projection and/or false consensus bias.
        Unlike the conservative base, ‘liberals’ haven’t fallen victim to the last two decades of a carefully constructed alternate reality.
        To an overwhelming degree liberals are fully aware of the mechanisms and predation of our recently birthed right-wing media entertainment complex. A business model developed not to disseminate news and inform it’s patrons. A business model assuming the guise of a news organization in order to more effectively manipulate and prey on it’s patrons.

        You are projecting an affliction unique to the right, onto those from the left.
        Liberals simply aren’t predisposed to succumbing to the misinformation, manipulation and mass delusion that so readily washes over those among the conservative base.
        A case that could not be more vividly demonstrated than; Ben Carson, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

  3. bynd says:

    Sparkles:

    We are sorry Sparkles. You did not create your own anger and ignorance. We forced you into it by forcing you to go to right wing sites to get validation as a unique individual. We’re sorry the validation wasn’t there for you.

    PS. Muslims participated in the Crusades also, in as much a brutal way as the Christians. Remember, they won! And the KKK was started by christian Democrats. Aren’t we just a wonderful species? There is no moral high ground for any of us. Embrace it.

    • repentinglawyer says:

      Bynd, in different ways both Reinhold Niebuhr and Cardinal Newman made the point that Original Sin is the only revealed mystery for which there is an empirical argument. We should share the Muslim hope that God is merciful and compassionate and recall that much of the evil done in the name of Christ is done in the triumphalist understanding of Church.

      • bynd says:

        RL:

        Or we could also say, “We should share the Christian hope that God is merciful and compassionate and recall that much of the evil done in the name of Allah is done in the triumphalist understanding of the Muslim faith.”

        And when exactly was it that Jesus got real and formed an armed response to the Romans?

        And I have never seen the words or concept in the Bible of a moral war. Another of man’s concoctions?

        Do not conform to the patterns of this world. Rom. 12:2

        But I do so enjoy researching your responses. You make me a better person for it.

      • repentinglawyer says:

        Bynd, Thanks for your kind words. You are right that Jesus did not develop any notion of Just War, we owe that to St Augustine, who in hid dealings with the Donatists developed the sad idea of forcing people to be free, though he did not approve of self defense. Given the 4th Crusade when Christians turned against Christian, and the continuance of that Catholic vsOrthodox war in the last century, both in the former Yogu. and before during WW II in Yugo. there is ample to repent for before we scream at other faiths. We have not even discussed Christian antiSemitism, which in its casual form was very common in NE. My beloved Grandmother unthinkingly gave me a lives of the Saints for Confirmation which included the blood liable story of Little St Hugh of Lincoln.

    • Sparkles says:

      bynd,

      Here ya go, from History for Idiots –
      The Crusades began in 1095, when armies of Christians from Western Europe responded to Pope Urban II’s plea to go to war against Muslim forces in the Holy Land.

      • bynd says:

        Sparkles:
        Here ya go, from History for Idiots

        There were 9 crusades in all.

        Saladin recaptured Jerusalem from the Crusaders in 1187. Saladin did show a magnanimous gesture when he allowed them to leave with their treasures. But the Crusades were the Christians vs the Muslims.

        So which part of the Muslims participated in the Crusades but won, is wrong?

        There was no moral high ground for either side. Except for your rewrite of history.

      • Macdaddy says:

        You realize that Muslims were taking over the Holy Land and the Turks were marching against Constantinople which is why the Crusades started, right? Are you really that stupid that you think people will fall for your cartoon characterizations of anything? Plus, your fixation with the Crusades from 1000 years ago reminds me a lot of ISIS. They can’t transition over to the modern day either.

  4. Bob Loblaw says:

    Could someone explain to me what the big deal about closing down Gitmo is? I mean we have supermax federal prisons that can hold the Unabomber and Terry Nichols and all sorts of evil human garbage. Why are we so worried about having terrorists in there as well? Theyre not super heroes who can melt the bars with their mind.

    • Sparkles says:

      Gitmo is costing the American taxpayer $3.3 million per detainee, per year.
      The average annual cost per prisoner in a maximum security prison in the United States, $78,000.

      The ability for a GOPer to deny everything-Obama and to peddle fear, priceless.

    • bynd says:

      Because when their buddies come to break them out, it was not possible at Gitmo. But in the US they get two for one. Whether successful or not, it can more easily be attempted here, so they made the effort on our land, they killed more Americans in the attempt. What are the lives of your family members worth? I guess to Sparkles, about $78,000.

  5. Macdaddy says:

    Do any of you (Sparkles, Bob Liblaw, Repentinglawyer, Texas Annie) even have a passing connection with reality? Did any of you watch the news this weekend? Do you all think you are so special that you are bulletproof? Do you think that when ISIS says, “We are going to kill you,” that they really mean “universal healthcare is a right, safe spaces should be established in college campuses, and Frank-Dodd should be defended at all costs?” Do you realize that Diane Feinstein is finally admitting that Obama is an idiot and has the wrong strategy to deal with Islamic extremism? Likewise Congressman Schiff and Congressman Moulton? Even President Hollande thinks Obama is a zero. And yet you post here like a parody of the most clueless know-nothings modern progressivism has to offer. Get real.

    • Sparkles says:

      Mac,

      You should cower to the overwhelming threat that is ISIS.
      Crouch in fear in your basement.
      Awaken to the fear of ISIS fighters awaiting you to retrieve your paper.
      ISIS fighters hiding in the potato bin at Hinky Dinky.
      ISIS fanatics taping their bodies, suspended-in-wait, under every pew at your church.
      Oh, and survival seeds. Buy lots and lots and lots of survival seeds.

      That’s exactly what they seek. So please, by all means, give them their victory.

      As for me, I’ll continue to worry about how the anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-government right wing actually IS bringing our nation to it’s knees.

      • Macdaddy says:

        You’re worrying about the right wing bringing the country to her knees? And you’re accusing me of being melodramatic? LOL!

    • repentinglawyer says:

      Mac daddy, My newspapers, NYT, WP, LAT plus BBC radio all indicated Holland said he was joining with Obama, guess fair and balanced missed that. Never indicated ISIS or ISIL was not a matter of concern, but your fears border on the goofy. I do not think I am immune from the threat of terrorism, particularly when I travel, but that is a good deal different from expecting ISIS divisions invading from Iowa. Reality is not a subject with which you seem to have contact though your mastery of vile rhetoric is impressive.

      • Macdaddy says:

        Hollande was being diplomatic. He’s leading Obama around by the nose. BTW, when did I ever sa that I was worried about ISIS invading Iowa? I doubt they will after what happened at the Mohammed cartoon contest in Texas where a traffic cop blew away 2 would be terrorists. They know that a lot of Americans in the fly-over states are packing and not easy targets. No, I am worried about my fellow Americans in sitting duck areas like New York and DC. But then again, I care about my fellow citizens unlike you who, along with Obama, are just salivating for the day when you can wring your hands in agony and wail, “Why do they hate us?”

  6. Macdaddy says:

    Easy, Bob. The moment they step foot on US soil they come under the jurisdiction of the federal courts system and there is an army of lawyers already assembled, ready, willing, and able to spring them from prison. That’s how.

    • Bob Loblaw says:

      The same could be said of any prisoner. Mafia, terrorist, murderer, whatever. Convict the Gitmo prisoners of a crime then. If they’re guilty of something how hard is that? Why are they in prison if they aren’t able to be convicted of anything?

      • Macdaddy says:

        Because they were captured in battle. The rules of evidence are not the same. Your pre-9/11 mindset is exactly the reason the Bush administration spent so much time and effort researching and finally setting up Gitmo because yahoos like you just don’t get it.

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