Dallas

DPD_Black_Band_Badge_-_Color_360x340Leavenworth St. will have a new post up between noon and 1pm to discuss all of the politics over the past 24-48 hours.

But before then, people often use L. St. as a sounding board, so it is better to be here, than on another post.

After last night’s murders in Dallas, there is little chance that politics won’t come into play.

There was some suggestions on TV last night that “this will get better”. But here’s the thing: All of this was instigated not just by the police shootings, but by the fact that they were videoed.

(Just an aside, that I really can’t fathom the woman who, with a gun in her face, her boyfriend just shot at point blank range, pulled out her phone, opened her Facebook app, (maybe she did both of those before the cop approached the car) and THEN hit the record button, and calmly gave a play-by-play of everything that just happened, with the gun still drawn and the cop screaming?)

But there are only going to be more and more videos, as video cameras are everywhere.

And as long as there are areas that are super-violent, police are going to be on edge at every traffic stop and every encounter.

And just a suggestion to “leaders”, pouring gas on the fire doesn’t help. I must have missed the statements yesterday by the Minnesota Governor and the President that being a police officer is a tense, life-threatening job, where your nerves are on edge. I must have missed the part about the discussion of people killing others every day, and the cops nervous at every stop that they will encounter one of those people.

In any case, the comments section is open.
Please keep the discussion of Dallas and the rest on this post.

22 comments

  1. Police Officer says:

    “We don’t feel much support most days, let’s not make today one of those days.” Dallas Police Chief David Brown.

    • anonymous says:

      Obama’s done. I’m more curious about what unintelligible goop will come out of Clinton’s and Trump’s mouths today. Who will speak peace to our violent nation, the Queen of Knives or Il Duce?

      • anonymous says:

        I know who & where Il Duce is. His followers are not necessarily Nazis or facists, they’re just scared and acting out of fear.

        Where is Dietrich Bonhoeffer? Not Sasse. The only difference between Sasse and Ricketts is one of them has hair.

  2. Tony says:

    Media liberals are already trying to make excuses for the feral animals that gunned down the police. And as far as Obama goes, he’s probably partying about it in the white house. One of the basic tenants of the far left is hatred of the police and military.

  3. Sparkles says:

    Re:
    “I must have missed the statements yesterday by the Minnesota Governor and the President that being a police officer is a tense, life-threatening job,”

    I’m pleased to be able to remedy that oversight.
    Obama, in a speech yesterday, prior to the Dallas shootings –
    “If communities are mistrustful of the police, that makes those law enforcement officers who are doing a great job, who are doing the right thing, that makes their lives harder,..
    ..”To admit we’ve got a serious problem in no way contradicts our respect and appreciation for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day.”

    And fwiw, Obama in remarks to an assembled crowd at the National Peace Officers Memorial, May 2015 –
    “We hold them up as heroes because that’s what they are. It takes a special kind of courage to be a peace officer. To be the one people turn to in their most desperate moments. To be willing to run into a dangerous situation, when everyone else is running the other way. Scripture tells us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves — but only a special few take that commandment so deeply to heart that they are willing to risk their lives so that others — often total strangers — can know peace and security..
    ..We can work harder, as a nation, to heal the rifts that still exist in some places between law enforcement and the people you risk your lives to protect. We owe it to all of you who wear the badge with honor. And we owe it to your fellow officers who gave their last full measure of devotion.”

    And in response to the call for President Obama to ‘finally’ lead on this issue – try googling – “President Obama Creates the Task Force on 21st Century Policing”.
    It will take you to numerous articles detailing the Executive Order, signed by Obama on Dec. 18, 2014, establishing the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing.
    A task force specifically designed to bring law enforcement officials and community stakeholders together to prevent exactly this type of senseless violence.

    President Obama has been leading on this issue – for a long time.

    An objective observer may stop to ponder why an issue of such great importance – escalating civil unrest – would require an Executive Order by the President to spur action on the part of our government.
    One might wonder exactly why a Republican Congress, our elected lawmakers, are content to sit on the sidelines, pointing fingers, as the violence intensifies.

    Maybe they’re too busy with Benghazi-Benghazi!!, or HRC’s emails, or the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos, or repealing Obamacare for the 58th time, or defunding PBS, or imprisoning Lois Lerner, or stripping power from the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau, or fighting to enlarge our military bloat, or blocking yet another infrastructure/jobs bill, or..
    Then again, maybe they’re just not in the office long enough to answer the call. After all, as of May, the Senate had been in session for the fewest days in 60 years.
    And our Republican lead Congress is in fact closing in on an unprecedented Three-Peat.
    For the 3rd year in a row, the title of Least Productive Congress in the History of the United States.

    • Macdaddy says:

      Forgive me, Sweeper for excerpting from Bill Clinton’s sock puppet’s remarks yesterday:

      Oh, these remarks were prior to the Dallas assassinations of their police officers.

      “But what I can say is that all of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings, because these are not isolated incidents. They’re symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system. And I just want to give people a few statistics to try to put in context why emotions are so raw around these issues.

      According to various studies — not just one, but a wide range of studies that have been carried out over a number of years — African Americans are 30 percent more likely than whites to be pulled over. After being pulled over, African Americans and Hispanics are three times more likely to be searched. Last year, African Americans were shot by police at more than twice the rate of whites. African Americans are arrested at twice the rate of whites. African American defendants are 75 percent more likely to be charged with offenses carrying mandatory minimums. They receive sentences that are almost 10 percent longer than comparable whites arrested for the same crime.

      So that if you add it all up, the African American and Hispanic population, who make up only 30 percent of the general population, make up more than half of the incarcerated population.

      Now, these are facts. And when incidents like this occur, there’s a big chunk of our fellow citizenry that feels as if because of the color of their skin, they are not being treated the same. And that hurts. ”

      Obama has been leading, all right. In the wrong f’in direction. He and Ernie Chambers.

    • HTH says:

      Shame on you, Tony. Not 12 hours after the close of this senseless violence, and you instantly politicize an apolitical situation. Open your eyes – There is no rational being whose heart does not ache for the violence yesterday, or the day before, or the day before that. There are systemic problems in this country, based on bad policies, for which both police and civilians are victims. Let’s focus on that, instead of accusing those with different politics than you of being anti-cop or celebrating massacres.

      HTH

      • The Grundle King says:

        So shame on Obama, too, then…right HTH?

        “We also know when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. And in the days ahead we are going to have to consider those realities as well.”

        Blood’s not dry, and Obama’ pushing gun control.

  4. Macdaddy says:

    I think the FBI needs to look into whether or not Ernie Chambers is a member of the Black Power Political Organisation, the group that claimed responsibility for these assassinations. Their statements sound a lot like what Chambers said on the floor of the Unicameral.

  5. Tony says:

    Another fact – blacks and hispanics are stopped more by police and more of them are in jail because they commit most of the violent crime in the country.

    • HTH says:

      Wow. There are so many things to say in response to such an uninformed single sentence, but to quote the preeminent Ron White: “You can’t fix stupid.” It’s a big world out there, Tony. Try experiencing it sometime.

      HTH

      • HTH says:

        BJ – thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into it. Seems like an interesting read.

        But let’s be clear – Tony, your clear implication that minorities have a higher propensity for violence than other races is racist. Bar none. Textbook definition. And I am not one to use that term lightly.

        For the record, in addition to being highly prejudiced, your comment is ill-informed. Minorities do not, in fact, commit most of the violent crimes in this country. Sorry to burst your bubble. 60% of violent crime arrests are whites.

        I could say much more, but arguing with a racist is like talking to a wall. So I’ll resist.

        HTH

  6. Macdaddy says:

    “Would this have happened if those passengers would have been white? I don’t think it would have,” Gov. Mark Dayton said to a crowd that gathered outside his residence all day and night Thursday.

    Hours later, a group of men executed 5 Dallas police officers and cited the same injustice that Governor Dayton was talking about.

    “If I was going to carry a weapon, it wouldn’t be against you, it wouldn’t be against these people who come here that I might have a dispute with. Mine would be for the police,” he said. “And if I carried a gun I’d want to shoot him first and then ask questions later, like they say the cop ought to do.” – Ernie Chambers, March 2015.

    A week later, OPD Officer Kerrie Orozco was shot and killed by a criminal on whom she was serving an arrest warrant.

  7. Tony says:

    You think calling me a racist will intimidate me into silence or something? How about this one. Homicides With a Firearm Arrests, 2009-2014. Black 79%, White 6%, Other 15%, FBI statistics.

    • anonymous says:

      Driving while Black is not a crime.

      Driving while Black with a broken tail light? The broken tail light may be a violation in some jurisdictions, but all of our legal protections still apply, beginning with a presumption of innocence. The penalty for a broken tail is something like a citation or warning, not being shot to death.

      How about the CD salesman in Baton Rouge? A street vendor has enough of a homeless dude and shows the handle of a firearm. Stupid? Yes, if the story is taken at face value. How about presumption of innocence and not being shot to death? Would I, a fat, old, white guy, be alive or dead in the same circumstances? Alive, and we all know why: for no reason other than the color of my skin. Sorry to say that but its true.

      Regardless of the number of preps of any “race” – which, by the way, is a social construct going back to the Census of 1880 – and the number of victims of any “race,” and the number of LEO’s of any “race” how about this for a right, the right not to be shot to death for any reason or none?

      Shortly we will learn more about the Dallas shooter. No signs of Islamic Radicalism yet, he was a Soldier. All-American, born & raised, Mom, Flag, Apple Pie, God & Country, And before anyone says he dishonored his uniform, lets learn more about his experience in Afghanistan. No, he wasn’t a frontline infantryman. That doesn’t mean he didn’t suffer from PTSD. Who knows what triggered him? Baton Rouge? St. Paul? Orlando? Face it, there’s a guy like this everyplace & anyplace waiting to snap. You can’t legislate that away, you can’t wish it away with good feelings, you can’t law & order your way to personal mental health & public safety.

      I’ll see the rest of you shitbirds in North Omaha getting to know our neighbors. With a closed mouth and open ears.

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