The Kintner saga

KintnerSign02State Senator Bill Kintner has been a very good Legislator.

He is great, politically. He speaks his mind. He is politically non-apologetic.

Pretty much EVERYONE else was wrong about that whole gorilla story with the Legislature, when he was getting hammered from all sides.

And he is one of the few people who stands up to the bullying by Senator Chambers and the Democrats.

 

The Timeline and the Facts

But the way this whole computer-sex scandal turned out is absolutely ridiculous for Kintner and Governor Ricketts, and Speaker Galen Hadley and Senator Bob Krist as well.

Here are the facts, according to the State Patrol report, and crucially, the TIMELINE:

Early AM, July 31, 2015: While in Boston hotel, Kintner has video chat – sex session with woman. Immediately after, woman demands Kintner pay her or else threatens to send video to everyone.

Later PM July 31, 2015: Kintner contacts Nebraska State Patrol and tells them about extortion attempt.

August 1, 2015: After returning home, Kintner continues contact with State Patrol as woman continues extortion attempt.

August 3, 2015: Kintner tells State Patrol everything, and gives them his state government-issued laptop.

THAT’S IT.
THAT’s 100% of the relevant facts of “what happened”.

And then it takes A YEAR for this to come to the press.

Various people say that because of the “investigation” and “due process”, no one could talk about it for A YEAR.

Well, except that 100% of the “investigation” took place within the 4 days that it took Bill Kintner to tell the State Patrol that he had a video sex-chat session on a state-issued computer with a woman who then tried to extort money.

THAT’S IT.
THAT’S THE INVESTIGATION.

Here, let’s sum up the investigation…

Q: Senator, did YOU approach US and tell us that you had a sex-chat session on a state-issued computer with a woman who later tried to extort money from you?

A: Yes.

Once again…
THAT’S IT.
THAT’S THE INVESTIGATION.

 

“July”

So, here is what the LJS reported last week regarding what and when Governor Pete Ricketts was saying about  the situation:

Ricketts said the Nebraska State Patrol told the governor’s office in July 2015 that Kintner had asked for an investigation into a computer-related crime he said was committed against him.

“That’s when I said the State Patrol needs to do a full investigation,” Ricketts said at a Monday morning news conference called on a different topic.

When it appeared that Kintner used his state computer for sexually explicit reasons, Ricketts told him he ought to resign, he said.

“Obviously, he didn’t resign,” he said.

 

Here’s another version:

 

In a statement issued Friday, Ricketts said he had phoned Kintner last summer and urged him to resign “if the allegations were true.”

 

And another

 

Gov. Pete Ricketts said Monday that he never asked Kintner whether the video allegations were true. Instead, the governor told Kintner in July 2015 that if the allegations were true, he should resign, the governor said again Monday.

“He didn’t really respond one way or another, and obviously he didn’t resign,” Ricketts said.

 

So, let’s take a wild guess at a few things:

Ricketts knew 100% what the facts were on July 31st, or August 3rd or 4th, at the latest.
They’re not difficult to tell.
Kintner had sex-chat video session on state-issued computer.
Woman immediately tried to extort money from him.
Kintner told State Patrol everything.

And considering Kintner’s wife works for the Governor, there’s more than a good chance either the State Patrol or someone else told the Governor 100% of it, because there’d be a good chance Kintner’s wife could be involved, and thus the Governor, etc.

So let’s put all of the “ifs” and “maybes” and “full investigation” and “due process” aside. Because, arguably, Kintner wasn’t being “accused” of anything. He WENT TO THEM and told them EVERYTHING.

And keep in mind that the Governor now, a year later, says that this is so uproarious that Kintner MUST resign, “Period.”

Right.

Except that wow there’s a great chance that the Governor knew 100% of the same exact facts over a year ago.

Because Kintner TOLD the facts.

So yeah, Kintner didn’t resign then anymore than he is resigning now.
But then Ricketts sat on it for a year, because…because…well who knows.

Because he needed Kintner in the Legislature?
(Here’s news: Guess who would get to appoint Kintner’s replacement?)

But it is nearly political malpractice for Ricketts to sit on this, when he KNEW WHAT THE FACTS WERE.

And then what does Ricketts do for the rest of the year?

Oh, just have Kintner ride in the Governor’s Suburban.

PR-BK02

Oh, just have Kintner on his slate to be a GOP Delegate in Cleveland.

Did Governor Ricketts NOT see what would absolutely be coming down the road?

BECAUSE KINTNER WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD 100% OF WHAT HAPPENED in July 2015?

 

The Unicameral

And then there is Speaker Hadley and Senator Krist, head of the Legislature’s Executive Board.

See, Ricketts could put some political pressure on Senator Kintner, publicly or privately. But it is Hadley and Krist who are the ones responsible for a member of their branch of the government.

See, people keep hammering Ricketts for not “doing more” — and maybe rightly so — but let us remember that there are three branches of the state government. And Hadley and Krist — who had their own knowledge about what happened — decided to also sit on their hands. Because they figured the Governor should do what was their responsibility.

Oh, and now they think Kintner should resign.

 

Mistakes

So here’s the thing:

Kintner made a mistake.
Not the worst mistake someone could make.

For instance, it’s not like he got drunk, got in a car and, endangering who knows how many lives, slammed into a snow plow.

But that’s no biggie to the Legislature, apparently.

And it’s not like he stole campaign contributions and gambled them away.
Heck not only will that not get you kicked out of the legislature, your political opponents think you should continue your campaign!

But while the online sex stuff is pretty much between him and his wife…it’s not nothing.

First, and foremost, he put himself and his fellow legislators and others in state government at risk from an extortion attempt. Yes he resisted and immediately got the authorities involved. But it was a grossly negligent risk that he took in the first place.

That alone has the possibility of putting him at risk of the body kicking him out.

Then there’s the question of him not stepping up months ago to address this — instead of it dragging out with the NADC and the rumors swirling at the end. He knew 100% of it. There was no “investigation”. There was no “due process” problem. He should have stepped up. Did he, like Governor Ricketts think this was just going to go away?

And now if he does not resign at this point, he will be forcing his colleagues and others to defend him on an ugly issue.

Does anyone know for sure that all the GIFs of Kintner’s junk on display have been deleted? Is that really something that his fellow Senators want to have to defend, let alone others close to him.

So Senator Kintner will decide for himself whether those are good enough reasons for him to resign.

There are probably enough ways for him to skate around impeachment — not the least being the Supreme Court not wanting to do the Legislature’s dirty work.

And maybe he could garner enough votes to fight expulsion.

But at what cost?
At what political and emotional cost?
To his colleagues.
To his family.
To himself.

 

Carrion

So yes, Senator Kintner has a fair amount of self-examination to do.
Maybe he figures he has already done it.

But there are just a few more questions for the Governor and Senators.

Heck you wonder about “junior Senators” who also knew exactly what had happened, but chose to keep their mouths shut.

And the Democrats?

Phht.

Oh, Senator Ernie Chambers is winding up the big gloves, is he?

Let’s see what CANDIDATE Chambers said when his opponent, state Senator Brenda Council, had been found guilty of stealing her campaign funds and gambling them away — and then only got a $600 fine:

“My history when it comes to people who have committed offenses is not one of harsh punishment,” Chambers said. “She is a lawyer. She knows she violated the law. She knows the law must take its course. But all that having been said, I do not want to see anything happen to her that could damage her further. She has damaged herself already as much as anything could damage a person.”

And not only did Chambers NOT call for Council’s expulsion or impeachment, he didn’t even call for her to step down from the race she was running against him.

If Chambers thinks Kintner should be expelled for “moral turpitude” then he should first address the mirror and kick himself out.

And the other Dems? They are angry at Governor Ricketts because by not telling about Kintner, they couldn’t use him for their own personal political advantages!

Hmm. Well, THERE’s an argument.

 

The Loop

The crazy thing here is that the only one who handled things correctly was…Kintner, by going to the cops immediately after the extortion attempt, and telling them everything.

But things fell apart from there.
From the Governor to Hadley to Krist, and back to Kintner.

There are few good reasons why this should keep going.
Yes Kintner has been a good legislator.

Hopefully Nebraska will be able to produce good legislators after he is gone.

 

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133 comments

  1. There's More says:

    Sweeper, you’ve done a fair job of describing the tip of the iceberg, but there are a few more points you missed.

    In fairness there is at least one other person that deserves credit for doing the right thing. The unnamed “junior senator” who reported

    that he/she was sent an offer to buy the video to Senator Krist and the state patrol. There has been speculation on this site that that

    junior senator was Adam Morfeld, and further speculation that Morfeld told other Senators about it. If Morfeld was dragged into the

    situation by the perpetrator, Kintner owes Morfeld an apology for subjecting him to the involvement. If Morfeld wasn’t the junior senator

    involved, Kintner owes him an apology for subjecting him to the speculation.

    From the transcript of the exchange between Kintner and the perp, there are a number of people who the perp intended to offer the

    video to. This is the list;

    Bill Seitz, Lori Saine, John Becker, Charles Tassell, Julie Anderson, Andy Clements, Governor Pete Ricketts, Gary Glenn, Suzanne

    Carlson, Lydia Brasch, Colby Coash, Sean Godfrey, Zachary Gelpey, Greg Mourad, Brendan Cole, Scott Lautenbaugh, Eric Hubbard,

    Brandon James Benson, Jim Smith, Pete Pirsch, Andy Allen, Dionne Cottle, Jeremy Jensen, Jon Tucker, Kelli Ward, Glen Flint, Sarpy

    GOP chairman Jerry C. Anderson, Jon Moudry, John McCollister, Brent Lindstrom.

    Adam Morfeld’s name isn’t on that list. Was the “junior senator” either John McCollister or Brent Linstrom? Were the other senators

    on the list contacted, and what did they do?

    You pointed out, correctly, the Governor deserves a whole lot of criticism for his obvious concelement of the situation but you failed to

    mention the Attorney General. Doug Peterson has failed to do his duty. His contention that his office can’t or couldn’t prosecute

    Kintner because the offence occurred in Massechusetts is pure B.S. The law Kintner broke was in relation to his inapropriate use of

    state resources. Where he misused the state property is totally irrelevant. If Peterson’s ability to interpret the law isn’t any better than

    that he should probably also resign. If not, then maybe Senator Chambers will initiate impeachment procedings agains him too.

    The Governor needs to take the lead at this point and push HARD to get Kintner to resign. He should be putting pressure on every

    member of the Legislature who might consider defending Kintner to resist doing so. So far Ricketts has shown very little ability to deal

    effectively with the Unicameral. If he can’t manage this situation efectively, he probably should resign himself to the idea that he’s

    never going to more than a one term Governor.

  2. So Sweeper writes a mash-note to Kintner, and in the same post uses his bad behavior to browbeat Ricketts and sundry others?

    That about it?

    I’m no fan of Morfeld, but demanding he go public with a mere allegation, potentially under threat of a defamation lawsuit, is ridiculous.

    Now I’m going to take a shower.

  3. He should resign says:

    He should resign if nothing else to protect the one smart person left in state government….his wife Lauren. Her only error in judgment was marrying him.

    • bynd says:

      @ 7:11am, If every one whose spouse did something wrong to them, divorced them, there would be no marriages. She has no error in judgement because of this one incident and it is rather caviler to judge her as such. Remember, if you trust in man/woman, they will eventually disappoint.

  4. NE Voter says:

    Though there is no law against being one, most loathsome hypocrites should have enough dignity and respect for their institutions and constituents to resign.

  5. The Eye Ball says:

    Kintner did the right thing, but I don’t get Nebraska State law. Kintner self-reported an extortion attempt, so why are they violating his Fifth Amendment rights? Do any of the other state senators have any concern whatsoever about how they may be extorted?

    Furthermore, how realistic is State law regarding proper use of state equipment. Nebraska does not own Facebook, Skpe or Twitter. Nebraska does not own the internet and the hotel wi-fi network. Nebraska is not paying for the electricity to charge the laptop.

    Are we going to prosecute government employees merely because they play solitaire on the computer? Hey, solitaire is not official government business is it?

    Finally, to what the SW said, I think the investigation was on-going to determine if the extortionist would continue with the attack. The extortionist did provide a Youtube link but the video was removed due to violating Youtube’s service agreement. So who was the junior senator that was contacted?

      • The Eye Ball says:

        So you’re saying, when it comes to extortion, it just better to pay off the extortionist and not report the crime? That just protects the extortionist and allow them to go find more victims to prey upon.

      • The Eye Ball says:

        If you want to protect people from extortionist, a crime using force, people need Fifth Amendments and grants of immunity to do so. Otherwise, we are all left vulnerable to the extortionists.

      • One more time: Kintner voluntarily told the police what had happened. The fifth amendment isn’t an issue.

        My guess is they couldn’t identify the extortionist, and therefore there was no point in immunizing Kintner. Might as well nab the criminal you have.

      • HTH says:

        EB, stop trying to be an armchair attorney. The Fifth Amendment does not apply to voluntary confessions, regardless of the circumstances of those confessions. Whether and how to prosecute for the underlying crime is a matter of prosecutorial discretion, not Constitutional law. This is why drug dealers don’t report when their stash is stolen (for example).

        HTH

  6. HTH says:

    Is Pete Rickets just not the most God awful governor in existence? His voice carries no weight, and everything he does is a failed attempt to project leadership. I voted for the guy, but he has turned out to be the epitome of a rich kid expecting the world to work the way he wants because, ’til now, it has.

    HTH

    • Anonymous says:

      Rickets demonstrates what happens when someone who imagines they are a business leader imagines they are a politician and then gets elected. He simply has no idea what he is doing. We would be better off selecting a Governor by lot from general population.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I am enjoying see who in the Republican party are more concerned about keeping Kintner in power than doing the right thing.

    I’m looking at you Joe Herring, Michael Kelly, Andy Allen, Drew Sullivan, Doug Kagan

      • anon says:

        Would it be extortion if the tax payers asked Kintner to pay for the entire cost of the investigations made necessary by his stupidity?

        Anyone who reads the transcripts of Kintner’s exchange with the whore will realize the guy is a fool. If he couldn’t see that he was being scammed from the start he hasn’t got the brains of a cockroach. It’s scary to think that there are skilled lobbyists out there who can con him into supporting dangerous legislation.

    • Really?? says:

      You mean like Democrats did with Bill Clinton’s sexual assaults and escapades with an Intern in the Oval Office?

  8. Clearly too Stupid for Words says:

    The original news piece indicated that Kintner self reported that he thought his Official Laptop had been hacked while at a Conference in Mass. If that is true, he was using a State Issued Resource while working as a State Senator in his Official Capacity. Did he receive a Per Diem during that Conference?

    Kintner should resign because he broke State Law regarding allowable use of State Resources while Elected as a State Lawmaker, period.

    I still want to know why Krist went to the Press after a full year of “obeying” the Law Enforcement directive of not discussing the issue. What did he have to gain by telling the Public one week prior to the Nebraska Accountability and Disclosure Commission holding their scheduled Hearing on the issue, following which, they would release their Discipline determined against Kintner.

    Yes, a mistake. Yes, immoral and just plain gross. Yes, unethical as a sitting Elected Official. Yes, he should resign.

    Did he report a hack, or did he report that he was a disgusting cybersexxer while his wife was undergoing treatment for Cancer, that was now a “victim” of an extortion attempt. Or both.

    • The Eye Ball says:

      So again, you are protecting the extortionists. The Fifth Amendment should apply. Apparently Kintner waived that right but you still let the extortionist get away with it. Seriously, if you read the details of the report, particularly pages 6 and 7, you will see Nebraska government has numerous internet security flaws.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you rob a bank and somebody says that they’re going to tell the cops unless you pay them you have no expectation of immunity for robbing the bank. Kintner put himself in the situation to be extorted. Whether he chooses to pursue a complaint against the extortioner has no bearing on whether he can be prosecuted for the original offense

    • bynd says:

      Clearly @ 9:45am,

      Except, the story states he did NOT do this while his wife was having cancer treatments. In fact it was before the diagnosis.

      All men lead different lives and experience different things. What seems odd to do for one is not the same for others. I find in the Christian environment, lack of knowledge of such things is not uncommon as some of the men try hard to not get involved in such things. Therefore their knowledge and wisdom are limited. When they do get involved, they become easy prey. Obviously those who know more about the subject have spent more time with the subject or studying the subject. However, we also know that Christian men use porn as often as non Christian men.

      What’s the point? If you haven’t been there, you won’t understand and will condemn out of ignorance. People of all ages, education levels etc. get conned every day. How arrogant is it, that people pass judgement on one when they have indeed have also failed in their life to live up to their ideals.

      In many cases, although a cliche, the one who is without fault should throw the first stone is a very true statement. There is a system in place that the legislature, in the past, determined was appropriate to address such failures. The system has been used and the consequence given. The next consequence will probably be at the ballot box. At home or in the legislature.

      But the most ironic part is, how so many on this site regularly criticize the legislature and the state Senators with many derogatory descriptive remarks and now believe there should be some arbitrary standard to be followed even if not written for the honor and reputation of the Legislature. And in the end, many of you would not want to be judged by standards in your job that were not written, especially if your job were on the line.

      And I thought Jerry Falwell’s judgements followed him to the grave.

      • HTH says:

        Here here, bynd. People can and should hold their elected officials responsible for their transgressions, but there is a big, bold line between that and self righteous condemnation. Such issues are between Kintner, his wife, and God.

        HTH

  9. Anonymous says:

    Once again, Street Sweeper hits the nail on the head. Kintner made his mistake, and handled the fallout perfectly. In addition, his transgression pales in comparison to Senator Snow Plow (who damaged government property by smashing into it while operating a motor vehicle Drunk) and Nebraska’s #1 gambler.

    The gov’s actions were actually just fine- he did nothing, which is the extent of his power in this particular situation. His statements however, were just dumb. He had to give a sound bite and he did. Krist severely mismanaged things on his end, which is par for the course.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Once again, Street Sweeper hit the nail on the head. Kintner did something dumb and he owned it. His transgression pales in comparison to Senator Snowplow (who damaged government property by smashing into it while operating her vehicle drunk) and Nebraska’s #1 gambler.

    Ricketts once again looks dumb and ***SHOCKER*** Krist handled it poorly.

    • The Grundle King says:

      That Council gambled away campaign contributions was of little particular concern to me. After all, fools and their money are soon parted…and in that case, there were plenty of fools. Council was a fool for spending/losing that much money at a casino, and the people of her district/party were fools for giving her money to begin with.

      Sure, the fact that she lost that much money called her decision making into question…but come on, she’s a Democrat…we all questioned her decision-making already. 😉

  11. The Grundle King says:

    So let’s just think this whole thing through on how it plays out…

    NSP completes its investigation, reports back to Ricketts, and Ricketts learns that Kintner definitely did use a state-owned computer to Skype his ding-dong to the Extortionistress. Then what?

    Ricketts can’t fire him…it’s not within his powers. He can only ask Kintner to resign…which HE DID! Sure, he used sorta mushy language like ‘if the allegations are true’…but by Sweeps acknowledgement, Kintner knew the allegations were true. Kintner’s knowledge of the truth, combined with Ricketts ‘advice’, should have equaled Kintner’s resignation. But Kintner didn’t resign, because he’s arrogant. Oh, sure…he answers only to God. Yeah, how concerned about God was he when he was ‘badgering the witness’?

    So…first and foremost…this falls on Kintner. He knew the truth, but decided he was above the laws of man. Sen. Kintner, may I suggest a refresher on Romans 13?

    Secondly, this falls on Hadley and Krist. These two chumps knew what was going on, and rather than exercise a little spine, they simply passed the buck. That fact is not particularly surprising, based on their demonstrated lack of spine when it Ernie was spouting off about shooting cops, or when you look at their ‘conservative’ voting record. Their buck-passing is even more outrageous when you consider that they passed it on to the Governor’s office BECAUSE Kintner’s wife works for Ricketts. I mean…are you f***ing kidding me?!! Those two bozos knowingly and willfully created a conflict of interest! If they had any integrity whatsoever, they would have addressed it head-on, fulfilling their duties as members of the legislature.

    The only thing Ricketts could have done was make it public a year ago. This seems meaningless in light of Kintner’s refusal to resign. If he won’t quit now, he surely would not have quit back then when the NADC had yet to make any sort of finding.

    • bynd says:

      GK, Usually I agree with you. Romans 13 states follow man’s law unless it contradicts God’s law.

      Remember King David and all he did. And God knew he would do it before he did it. But he still made him king and kept him there until death.

      Better to follow Gal. 6:1.

      • The Grundle King says:

        Perhaps…but in this particular case, God’s law and man’s law weren’t really in conflict, so I think the Romans reference is fine.

  12. Sparkles says:

    I couldn’t help but chuckle when reading the opening few lines to today’s post.

    It’s like:
    Turner Gill was a phenomenal coach at Kansas, a true master of the X’s and O’s.!

    Bill Kintner has introduced only 1 piece of legislation that has passed.
    That piece was LB317 and it’s passage was simply an act of legislative housecleaning for a measure that has been ignored for nearly a decade.

    Although, on January 11, 2016, Mr. Kintner did introduce LB892, a bill designed to “Change provisions relating to intimidation by telephone call.

    Seemingly Mr Kintner took a moment away from his chores carrying the water for ALEC, NRA-ILA, Nebraska Right to Life and the Ricketts admin, to tend to little personal legislative business.

    • bynd says:

      Sparkles,

      Finally, the new leader of the Moral Majority of the left speaks out. What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. I do believe you said as much many times on here. Obviously, that applies to only those you want it to apply to.

      His legislative record is what it is. Then only difference between you and him are the acts committed and the degree of seriousness. In other words, you are no different. Even for those you carry the bucket of bile for.

      • Sparkles says:

        bynd,
        Kintner can.. wax poetically, atop his teevee wearing a tutu in his own home if chooses and no one would care less.

        Hell, he can invite NE’s whole conservative caucus to his home where they can all caucus in unison and you’ll hear not a peep from me, or most others.

        And let me assure you, there is in fact a whole lot of difference between myself and Bill Kintner.

  13. To there's more says:

    You are dumb. It is a criminal from the Ivory Coast who probably randomly selected Kintner’s facebook friends to send it to. You really think that the people on the list would sit on this for Kintner? Go smoke a cigar and grab a tinfoil hat. John McCollister or “Brent” Lindstrom having nothing to do with Spanky’s case.

  14. Meanwhile, in wierd, wacky TrumpWorld, Twitter just suspended the account of ‘Meredith McIver’, who took the fall for Melania’s plagiarism. Twitter suspends accounts for two things; abuse, or posting under a false identity. ‘Meredith’ didn’t post anything that could reasonably be called abuse.

    No one has ever met ‘Meredith’, except (according to him) Piers Morgan. Piers is a Trumpkin and a laughingstock on two continents, although in past depositions Trump testified she was ghostwriter of several of his books. All of ‘Meredith’s internet presence seems to have been created after she copped to the plagiarism charge.

    Yes, as cover-ups go, it’s comically inept. But what several people have missed so far is that, if ‘Meredith’ is a non-person, then Trump is guilty of perjury.

    • bynd says:

      GH,

      One of the polls everyone ignores but seems the most relevant to me, is the presidential poll of Arkansas.

      Trumps leads 47% to 36%. He leads with women. Don’t you think those who know the Clintons best would vote for here? Just as they did when more voted for Hillary than Barack.

      I got the chance to talk to someone from Arkansas this morning. A stranger until we bought some furniture form her. I just had to ask, what she and her relatives back in Arkansas thought about Hillary. Knowing that some one familiar with Clinton while in office, security team member, they pointed out that they should have put a revolving door on state mansion for all the hookers who went in and out. And Hillary is know as just a mean bitch who cares only for herself and indeed, it will be the middle class who will pay the price for her being elected.

      Is it all hearsay? Don’t know. But they would rather Hillary than Barack and Trump rather than Hillary. If nothing else, just some thing to chew on.

      I’m sure some will say Hillary leads Trump in New York. Valid point except Hillary was a New Yorker. She got elected as state senator and US Senator from the state. So the comparison is not the same.

      So, who to believe, the hicks from Arkansas or the Bloombergs from New York who want to control how much pop you can drink at one time?

  15. Pbo says:

    Kintner was, is and probably always will be a blustering buffoon. He’s Ricketts megaphone- spewing bigotry and hate and apparently the governor cherishes this as he’s protected him and used him throughout his reign of terror.
    A few things to ponder:
    The 2016 Legislative session began on 1/6/2016,. NE. A&D Commission opened the investigation on Kintner on 1/7/2016. Why?
    Kintner’s lawyer works for the law firm- MATTSON, RICKETTS & DAVIES. This same attorney is the National Committeeman for NGOP, and sat two terms on the A&D Commission. Seem a bit sketchy to anyone?
    Kintner was protected from the very second he made stupid choices. The Governor and the AG are
    GUILTY of collusion. The governor’s recent request for Kintner’s resignation, is purely bad acting.
    Over the weekend Kintner was right back at his sweaty keyword, posting memes on FB of men in dresses. Why would a governor with even a ounce of class choose to be associated with such an immature, moronic stain? Pete Ricketts is clearly walking through his governorship for his Daddy; he needs to come clean and explain why he relishes Bluto by his side.

  16. The Eye Ball says:

    Seriously, I cannot think of any other circumstance where masturbation is a crime, but apparently many here think it is as evil as murder.

    • Anonymous says:

      If masturbation is a crime every human is guilty. That is not the problem.

      The problem here is that the poor people of Kintner’s senatorial district did not elect him to masturbate and photograph the act with state property. Kintner was not elected to goof around on the Internet with state property.

      Its not about whatever hooey Kintner claims to believe in the name of his religion or god. It is about what he was elected to do, and how he is to use the tools provided to him at public expense to be a state senator. If any members of the Unicameral happen to be reading this, be advised: your bosses did not elect you to masturbate and photograph the act using state-owned office equipment. You don’t get to do that. If you are doing this, stop. If you are not doing this, don’t start.

      Kintner might have been elected if, during his campaign, he said “I’m into porn, like so many good Nebraskans, and I don’t care whose computer I use to watch it.” Let him run on that basis and see who votes yea or nay. That is not what happened.

      • bynd says:

        Anonymous , Since it seems important to you, he took no pictures. The gal did. There were no pictures on his state computer.

      • bynd says:

        GH,

        Replying to Anonymous, he said photograph. I’m probably wrong but it can be on the screen and not on the computer.

        Nor does it appear that he took the steps to make it into a photograph.

      • The Eye Ball says:

        I flat out don’t care if the senator masturbates with government laptop, phone or pogo stick. Who gives a damn? It is too damn petty to be bringing law enforcement in.

  17. Sparkles says:

    There’s a new conservative candidate that just announced he’s throwing his hat in the ring for POTUS – Lord Voldemort, aka Evan McMullin.

    A former CIA employee and former Chief Policy Director for the House Republican Conference, working first for Speaker Boehner, then Ryan.
    Although he can’t win (can’t get on enough ballots) it’s expected he’ll insure the humiliating loss the establishment (and sane members of the party) would like dealt to the Tufted Talking Yam.

    I’d guess we’re now witnessing the emergence of strategy from a group determined to burn to the ground the conspiracy addled, pitchfork wielding, xenophobic and bigoted faction that taken hostage the GOP.
    It appears the ceremonial pyre from which this rebuilding effort will be ignited is the candidacy of none other than Donald J.

    I’m also guessing you’re likely to see Ricketts (and those similar) money behind even more challenges to the radicalized, solutions-free, anti-governance Tea folk who have for too long infected our government. Tea folk like Tim Huelskamp, who Ricketts money helped defeat last week in Kansas.

    • bynd says:

      Sparkles,

      I am sure that Mrs. Amiri is not so forgiving of Hillary as you and the rest are. Masturbate or be responsible for the death of a US spy? Hmmm, let the denials flow:)

      • Sparkles says:

        More crackpot winger nuttery and baseless conspiracy horses^*&.

        HRC had nothing to do with Amiri’s hanging. Amiri voluntarily, of his own free will, insisted on returning to Iran in 2010. At the time of his return the CIA warned him that doing so “would probably end with his head in a noose.”
        Shortly after Amiri arrived back in Iran, in 2010, he was imprisoned, where he remained until the Iranian govt finally decided to kill him.

        Tom Cotton is full of of shit.

        Congratulations – you’ve got another nothingburger on your hands.

      • Not baseless in the least. It’s a matter of public record that Hillary discussed Amiri by email using her unsecure server. This was reported by CNN a year ago. Tom Cotton simply referred to the email transcripts.

      • Sparkles says:

        I hope the right flogs this nothingburger of a scandal without mercy.
        I hope it receives 24/7 coverage on Fox ‘News’ and hate radio. (after all, Fox needs something to replace the image of that burning jeep in the Benghazi!! Benghazi!! video)
        I hope they talk about nothing else until Nov 8th.

        HRC had nothing to do with the execution of Amiri.

        And Americans are plumb out of f^*&s to give about yet another amorphous Clinton scandal. A growing majority of our citizenry are long past sick of Republicans running around with their hair on fire crying wolf about a myriad of partisan horseshite that they’ve tried to hang pin to Obama and Clinton’s dating back a quarter century.
        Historians will note Obama’s presidency to be the most scandal free in modern history.
        None of these right wing witch hunts has anything to do with easing American’s ability to provide for their families, fix their roads, improve their schools, ease their access to affordable care, protect them from the predation of banks and credit card companies, protect their retirement savings from collapse, insure for their grandchildren can breath clean air, and drink safe water and maybe, just maybe, keep alive the opportunity to secure a sliver of what’s left of the American dream.

      • bynd says:

        So states Sparkles, the apologists for HRC. No reason to believe you above anyone else. Nothing burger on ours, blood on her’s. I’d rather have mine.

  18. negop2 says:

    He wasn’t fined by NADC and I haven’t called for his resignation because he did or did not masturbate in front of an active camera on his private computer screen. He was fined because he used State purchased and issued property for non official activity. I believe he should resign because he broke State Law and has violated the trust of the taxpayers in the State of Nebraska by doing so. Personally, I find his behavior reprehensible and an embarrassment to the Republican Party-which is additional reasoning for wanting him to step down.

    That said, if he won’t do it voluntarily, I do not believe the Leg should spend a moment’s time removing him from Office, that is for his Constituents to do. The Speaker should refuse to seat him on any Committee.

  19. anon says:

    All these names involved, and a timeline. You mean to tell me that this wasn’t telegraphed high and wide,and held by some inside “code” to be divulged by a political arbitrary time. Sounds like they are all political perverts

  20. Anonymous says:

    Let’s just admit the truth here, shall we? We all love sex. We all love that tingly feeling we get between our legs when we think about it. We especially love it when we can have it with someone else. If we can’t do that, we love having it with ourseves. Let’s just quit lying about it, OK?

    I think we should just supply every seat in the Legislative chamber with a bottle of personal lubricant and some Kleenex. Let the good Senators look at all the porn they want, scratch their itches, then get back to work. Too much time and effort is wasted complaining about someone that gets caught doing what we all do in secrecy. Be honest, you do too. We might just as well start the sessions off with a nice circle jerk and be done with it!

    • Sparkles says:

      So… what you’re saying, is that masturbation is actually a bedrock ‘conservative, christian value’.
      After all, who is it that guides the hand of man, other than our Lord?

      Isaiah 41:13
      For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you.

      But of course if it were a Democratic legislator caught choking Kojak, there would have been no such thing as a year long cover up. No shuffling of papers under the table and whispered referrals to sundry agencies with a wink-wink, nudge-nudge insistence that it remain confidential.
      Quite to the contrary, it would have been the lead story on the nightly news – Pete Ricketts ready at the podium, surrounded by ‘christian conservative’ legislators, Kintner prominent among them, demanding a letter of resignation from the deviant Democrat who has so wantonly sullied their august institution, so miserably failed his constituents and abused government property.

      • negop2 says:

        So you link to my comments and completely ignore the relevant part of the statement that I asked for the truth as to whether he originally reported it as thinking his computer was hacked while out of state representing NE at a Conference? That is important to distinguish. Why? Because it informs the taxpayers if he was indeed forthcoming from the start, or only after the cat was out of the bag. It is also an important distinction for those that are trying to excuse his behavior as being none of anyone’s business what he does in the privacy.

        As for his wife’s illness? I was told at the beginning of last Summer that she was diagnosed. So, that must have just been the Cap Rumormill, that sadly became truth.

      • Sparkles says:

        negop2

        ??

        I didn’t link to anything you’ve posted.

        And, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve stated.

    • Anonymous says:

      If Kintner wants to have sex the way he wants it free from judgment, he better let other people have sex the way they want to without his constant judgment.

  21. Wing Nut says:

    Kintner’s use of a State owned computer was both inappropriate and wrong. I am personally disappointed in him for accessing this type of site (utilizing State resources or otherwise).

    That being said, he did man up and self report the incident. I respect his courage and forthrightness in doing so. It show’s accountability and courage of a man who realizes and owns up to his mistakes in life. Something few politicians EVER do.

    Pornography is a multi billion dollar international industry with millions of victims at all levels. Unlike when I was a young man and it was only available by sneaking a look at Playboy my friend’s father discarded, it is now readily accessible, by anyone with a computer, even at a State or city owned public library computer.

    The Omaha Public Library has filters against Child Pornography, yet had multiple copies of Madonna’s pornographic book. Sadly, many people engage in use of pornography on public computers. I was walked into local libraries and seen people on inappropriate sites.

    Should we hold our elected officials to a higher standard? Yes. Should he faces consequences? Yes. A fine, a reprimand, a loss of respect (in the public eye and personally), perhaps a censure from the legislature, and the wrath of his wife should be sufficient.

    No one died. No money was lost. No one, other than Kintner, was compromised or harassed.

    The person at the other end of the conversation is guilty of blackmail, a crime.

    Had he done this on a personal computer, she likely would have done the same.

    He can choose to resign, as requested by Ricketts, or let the voters decide his fate next election.

    As to Ricketts, he let the investigation proceed as he should have without interfering. No involvement from him was necessary. He asked for Kintner to resign. He did his due diligence.

    Personally, I am sad for Kintner on many levels. But, I respect him as a man for owning up to this. I hope he he becomes a better person through this.

    In Life, we all err. We are human and prone to do so. It is in owning up to our mistakes and being accountable and learning from them that makes us better people.

    Knowing his wife, he is likely facing far more severe consequences that the public humiliation he is presently enduring.

    • Really? says:

      “No money was lost.” Are you serious? Do you think all that investigation by the state patrol was free?

      The investigation of the blackmailer is ongoing. What purpose does that serve? Does anyone think she/they will ever be prosecuted in Nebraska?

      At this point Kintner owes the people of Nebraska tens of thousands of dollars for the investigations. AND he still should resign.

      • bynd says:

        So, are going to go back and get reimbursed by all state Senators investigated by the state? Let’s start with Council. And then Ernie and his speeding tickets that he fought in court. How far back shall we go? Can we collect interest from them also?

    • Anonymous says:

      Nobody deserves credit for “taking responsibility,” which is another way of saying “coming up to the minimum, lower bound of expected behavior.” That’s just what you do. Not special.

  22. bynd says:

    An IBM salesman looses a $10 million dollar account. He’s called into the boss’ office and immediately states he was sorry and could understand why his boss was going to fire him. Fire you, his boss exclaims, I just spent 10 million educating you.

    • Anonymous says:

      By the time a body is elected, they should have learned this particular lesson already. They are past the point of the $10 million educational pass. Time to rejoin the real world by starting over. Kintner needs to relearn those early lessons provided by the caring oversight of a slightly critical boss.

      • bynd says:

        Does an election some how make some one super smart or immune to mistakes?

        Sounds like a great standard for all those who have climbed the latter, made it big and made a mistake.

        The system that the elected representatives of the state of Nebraska put in place to deal with this type of situation has been used and completed. Nothing else is necessary. Or do we now give those in prison 30 lashes for being stupid enough to get caught?

      • Anonymous says:

        30 lashes is not a bad idea.

        Better, though, is a trusted friend grabbing Kintner by the ear and saying “You utter dumbshit! What were you thinking? Look, buddy, no more Reagan, no more Jesus, and for pete’s sake no more Internet or computers for you. Do the job you were elected to do, lay low and shut up.” THAT is the end of the matter.

        Bynd, you do the honors.

      • Bynd says:

        Anonymous,

        I talked to Kinter once about the $19000 the state keep of my unemployment compensation account when we sold the business. Never got an answer. So no, he is not one of my favorite people.

  23. The Eye Ball says:

    One other matter, people are getting upset about the use of government property and are hypocritical about it. If Kintner had used his government laptop to play solitaire 24 hours a day, no one would care and no one would know. The extortionist is the only reason this is an issue at all. Otherwise the government policy on fair usage is merely a fraud.

    • In most cases, the use does matter. For example, UNL actually permits personal use of university computers (though I don’t ever do that). But they also say:

      “Personal use of any University information system to access, download, print, store, forward, transmit or distribute obscene material is prohibited.”

      Kintner spanking the monkey is about as obscene a thing as I can imagine.

      • The Eye Ball says:

        You just enhance my point. The Legislative IT director needs to accept blame for the lack of such disclosure.

  24. Good Lawd says:

    Governor knew what Kintner had done as of August 2015. Gov said state patrol told him, Kintner says he had conversation with the Gov. At that point, in August of last year, Governor KNOWS what happened. There is no ‘if its true” or “due process.” He knows. The NADC “investigation” is totally unnecessary to pass judgment. Yet it takes the Governor another year to say “resign, period.”

    You’re crazy if you don’t think that looks terrible for the Governor. Terrible. And to compound, everything the Gov has said for the last week is either half true or not true at all.

    The Democrats inside and outside the Legislature are going to the mattresses on this one.

  25. Anonymous says:

    To equate sitting around an office playing solitaire at your desk with packing up your state owned computer, carrying it to a non-legislative activity out of state, engaging in a purely social series of chats over days, and then masturbating via webcam is ridiculous. A 12 year old with an iphone and snapchat can see the distinction.

    To characterize Kintner’s report the state patrol as “coming clean” is pure spin. He went to the state patrol in an attempt to squash public release of videos evidence of his obscene behavior using his state computers. He drug this out for over a year, only “coming clean” when he had no choice. He could not keep it out of the public realm anymore. And he tried. Only when forced to did he find his repentance. He could have confessed the truth to any of a number of people in the past year. There is nothing noble or commendable in his actions. He is a self promoting coward who elevated his public status by posting photo ops and riding the coattails his wife’s position and asking to be a convention delegate knowing full well what was out there. He is not sorry for what he did. He sorry he got caught.

    The question those who believe in the value of advancing conservative causes in Nebraska should be asking loudly is how long Kintner is going to continue his selfish behavior and be a stone around the neck of others and the very real issues they support. If his wife is so brilliant and talented, why drag her down with this? Is she advising him to stay in office? Why scrabble and scrape and throw mud at anyone and everyone within reach to somehow elevate himself above his own ineptitude? Whether you want to define it as the GOP or conservatives or just a bunch of people who think pretty similar about a bunch of stuff, are we really ok with trying to split legal hairs and set our baseline for ethics at the level of Brenda Council and Danielle Conrad? “The devil made me do it” is accepted by a party that defines itself as honoring the rule of law? Shouldn’t we be better?

    It is no wonder people hate politics and politicians.

    I’m still trying to conceptualize on what scale and by what standard Kintner has been a “good senator”. He is easily the source of more face-in-the-palm embarrassing public moments than any other politician in the state. This is just the biggest in a long line of too-crazy to be anything but true Kintner escapades. It is indefensible. Enough is enough.

    Maybe there is something so special and fantastically awesome about being a senator that he just can’t let it go and life has no meaning without . I doubt it. This is all purely about Bill Kintner’s own vanity and inflated sense of self importance. Trying to justify it as anything else is just bs.

    • bynd says:

      “I’m to blame here,” Kintner said. “I didn’t have to do this. I didn’t have to succumb to this.”

      Which part of that statement is blaming someone else or the devil?

      When was the last time you did something and confessed to everyone it may have affected? And have you made it habit to always confess in such a way?

      Makes the rest of the rant suspect for other than faux moral outrage from another who is not always moral.

      Am I defending the man? Hardly. Just find the self righteous act to be more in line with hypocrisy than altruistic I’m worried about the party.

      The question no one wants to answer, how are you different from him?

      • Anonymous says:

        What’s the line from Galaxy Quest? “I don’t have to be a good actor to recognize a bad one.” I don’t have to be perfect to make a prudential, discriminatory judgement about what amounts to employee behavior. The old saw says you praise in public and criticize in private. How does this work for elected officials, whose every move is, by definition, open to public scrutiny and oversight?

        If Kintner had comported himself with humility in public rather than a moralizing blowhard, claiming to be Christian and surrounded by Reagan photos, he might have received some measure of mercy. Now Kintner is an object lesson. Those who have ears to hear, let them hear.

      • bynd says:

        If you need to judge, judge the system that is in place to handle these situations. Men and women supposedly much smarter than us devised the system and deemed it fair and just.

        Your moral outrage is yours to vent but then again, do you want others venting their moral outrage at you? You can’t legislate morality in that you can’t make people moral with a law.

        Do unto others, cast the first stone etc. Easy to say, hard to follow. But those with true integrity and compassion will. Otherwise, all your rant is nothing different than Kintner’s self righteous blather that you want so badly to condemn.

        What is the difference between you and him?

  26. Spearmint Rhino says:

    Here is what Senator K is expecting us to believe. On the one occasion that he used his state computer to illegally post/access porngraphy he got blackmailed. Give me a break. He is now going to stubbornly cling to his power and drag his wife, the Legislature, the Governor through a prolonged debate about his impeachment. He is an arrogant, pious pervert. Not sure why he wants the opportunity to prove that to more people.

    • bynd says:

      SR,
      A rant worthy of a Kintner wanna be. In your case, no need to ask the question. With that rant, you are no different than him.

      People can only be dragged through what they want to be dragged through. You can’t blame some one else for your problems or situation in life.

      Westboro awaits your application. You make them very happy.

  27. Wing Nut says:

    I have to admit, I am impressed with the number of celibate men and eunuchs on this blog. I was not aware that there that many seminarians who subscribed. The sheer quantity of seemingly sinless men here is staggering.

  28. To wingnut moron says:

    Most are not celibate. But most do not beat the meat on a state computer in front of a web cam when wife works for head of state. Just details.

    Cordially,

    Spanky

  29. Wing Nut says:

    Acknowledged, Spanky. I presume you have never made a grevious error. You are to be congratulated. Might one inquire as to the date of your impending Canonization?

  30. To wingnut moron says:

    An error or several? Die on this hill if you must. Kintner is done, Fast or slow…. My grevious error does not include choking the chicken on a web cam while my wife has cancer. Yeah GOP!!!

    • bynd says:

      To you really are wingnut,

      Not only are they self righteous wingnut, they seem to be unable to read and comprehend. She did not have cancer when this happened. This one must be another product of the OPS system.

      And you call Kintner stupid. You make him look like a genius.

      • Bynd says:

        Actually who knows when she got the cancer? Unless of course you are Karnak resurrected. Johnny would not be proud.

  31. Powerless Pete says:

    First I tried to get rid of that pesky McPhearson and couldn’t. And now that dinut-eating Kintner! How did Dave ever get Sheehy to resign!?
    At least I got Kintner to do my bidding for an entire year while I publicly shamed anyone who didnt agree with me 100% of the time. Now I need to find someone else who I can manipulate by holding something over their head…. Looking for ideas. Lets see what we get with these new candidates I’m not helping financially.
    Next year’s agenda: get rid of Foley, replace him with Jessica’s boyfriend senator, and maybe go to a Star Wars convention. Being Governor is fun!!

    • Pete the Player says:

      Don’t worry, Pete has this situation all figured out. If Kintner can just hold on for a few more weeks Pete gets to appoint his replacement.

      Kintner isn’t going to be around for the start of the next session. Pete’s going to find a replacement for him and avoid having those pesky voters choose their own representative.

  32. Anonymous says:

    “Kintner made a mistake. Not the worst mistake someone could make.”

    And Bill Clinton getting his carrot buffed under the Oval Office desk isn’t the worst mistake he could make. Didn’t get him removed from office. So what’s the worst mistake? Videotaping his Monica-Job and putting it on YouTube? Or just promising voters’ transparency in government, taking an oath to an office he holds 24/7 and then, like so many other empowered people, takes an afternoon off from oath and responsibility to act like a crook, a schnook, or a regular inattentive shit head.

    Cops and troops swear an oath too and they too are on duty 24/7. But when they are similarly unvigilant they end up dead. Unfortunately, politicians don’t die of their mistakes. There is no natural selection process cleaning that pool of its dangerous fools.

    If Clinton had put his office sex on YouTube, would that have been transparent? Sure. But then Bill would have joined Kintner and Antony Weiner Wiener in the pantheon of online dumb shits.

    Our parents tell us to never do anything in private that we’d be ashamed to have known publicly.

    The question is, did Kintner confess his online sex BEFORE he was being blackmailed? No. He only acted when he felt caught. He was being blackmailed for something he actually did and wasn’t proud of. That makes the timing and comparisons of everything after his “mistake” irrelevant.

    The one mistake argument is a crock. One mistake with nuclear weapons, or that one mistake that drives your family into a bridge embankment, is all it takes. These are elected empowered officials, they hold our lives in their hands, and we hold them to Kindergarten rules.

    • bynd says:

      So, between the time they finished the act and less than 30 seconds later the woman threatened him, you think he should have told her to wait while he called NSP? Don’t you people think about any of these things you are writing, or is it all about your feeeeelllliiinnngggs.

  33. Coward Kintner says:

    If Kintner wasn’t such a sniveling coward he could silence his critics and ultimately keep his seat in the legislature too. If he honestly believes the people in his district still want him in the legislature it would be easy to put it to the test. He can resign today, and his seat will be filled in the November election. He can start collecting signatures tomorrow to have his name placed on the November ballot. If his constituents actually support him it’s easy enough to put it to a vote. The problem is Kintner knows he probably would lose. He’s a coward.

    Hell! If three or four people manage to get their name on the ballot Kintner might even end up with a plurality, but probably not a majority. He’d still keep his seat.

    Kintner is a coward. He knows his constituents want rid of him. He knows he couldn’t get reelected. He knows that if he walked his district today campaigning for office that the majority of the people would tell him to get off their property when they answered their doors.

    Kintner could silence Ernie Chambers if he resigned and got reelected. The voters would have spoken, and he’d be immune from Chambers attacks. His colleges in the Legislature wouldn’t have to compromise their own values to support keeping him in the legislature.

    It’s not going to happen. Kintner doesn’t listen to God or anyone else. His ego won’t let him.

  34. Anonymous says:

    This raises the question of if and how actual, effective leadership of, management of, and supervision of elected officials can be done. In private industry a Kintner situation would be a clear example of failure:

    – failure to select the right person, implicating the vetting process

    – failure in hiring, implicating the selection process

    – failure in supervision. Who makes sure a “Kintner” is doing her or his job?

    In political terms you could call Kintner’s constituents on the carpet for poor vetting, poor selection and no supervision. But is that the electorate’s role? If yes, is the occasional election sufficient in this day & age to perform vetting, selection and supervisory tasks?

    Once elected, politicians are given wide latitude to do the job they were elected to do. In legislatures there is nominal oversight by the legislative body itself, usually out of a constitutionally-mandated independence and separation-of-powers. In some jurisdictions there is also the possibility of recall, subject to some constitutional process.

    Latitude is important, independence is important, but so is real oversight, perhaps even daily. “Kintner” might not have happened “Kintner” – by whatever name and circumstance – had a boss. How could this work?

  35. bynd says:

    From Covenant eyes,
    Men are 543% more likely to look at porn than females.
    Those who are politically more liberal are 19% more likely to look at porn.
    Those who have ever committed adultery are 218% more likely to look at porn.
    Those who have ever engaged in paid sex are 270% more likely to look at porn.
    Those who are happily married are 61% less likely to look at porn.
    Those with teen children at home are 45% less likely to look at porn.
    Regular church attenders are 26% less likely to look at porn than non-attenders, but those self-identified as “fundamentalists” are 91% more likely to look at porn.

    In a 2010 national survey, over a quarter of 16- to 17-year olds said they were exposed to nudity online when they did not want to see it. In addition 20% of 16-year-olds and 30% of 17-year-olds have received a “sext” (a sexually explicit text message).

    More than 7 out of 10 teens hide their online behavior from their parents in some way.

    35% of boys say they have viewed pornographic videos “too many times to count.”

    More than half of boys and nearly a third of girls see their first pornographic images before they turn 13. In a survey of hundreds of college students, 93% of boys and 62% of girls said they were exposed to pornography before they turned 18. In the same survey, 83% of boys and 57% of girls said they had seen images of group sex online.

    About 64-68% of young adult men and about 18% of women use porn at least once every week. Another 17% of men and another 30% of women use porn 1-2 times per month.

    Two-thirds of college-age men and half of college-age women say viewing porn is an acceptable way to express one’s sexuality.

    The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:

    77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
    36 percent view pornography on a daily basis.
    32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).

    The statistics for middle-aged Christian men (ages 31 to 49) are no less disturbing:

    77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
    64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
    18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).

    Even married Christian men are falling prey to pornography and extramarital sexual affairs at alarming rates:

    55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
    35 percent had an extramarital sexual affair while married.

    13% of teens and 17% of young adults talk about porn in a positive, lighthearted way.
    40% of teens and 43% of young adults assume all people look at porn sometimes.
    37% of teens and 36% of young adults do not discuss the morality of looking at porn.

    Age, gender and faith practice are three biggest factors in frequent porn use:
    Males aged 13-24: 72% of not practicing Christians, 41% of practicing Christians
    Males aged 25+: 55% of not practicing Christians, 23% of practicing Christians
    Females aged 13-24: 36% of not practicing Christians, 13% of practicing Christians
    Females aged 25+: 17% of not practicing Christians, 5% of practicing Christians

    Evidently porn is not a big deal to millennials.

    And the statistics would indicate that it is highly likely that some on here who are condemning Kintner have their own porn problems.

    So now we are down to, he used his state computer for personal business. The NADC took appropriate action. It is over with, except for those who believe they are morally pure enough to condemn another. You know, like Ernie Chambers. The one who sets the moral standards for the Legislature. He seems to have a lot of followers on this site.

    • Bynd: please stop projecting your own flaws onto others. Personally I have neither a problem with porn nor any objection to it. I don’t videotext. I think that’s a Christian thing.

      The studies I’ve seen show a positive correlation between religiosity and online porn searches.

      • Bynd says:

        GH,

        Sorry to pop your bubble. We all are flawed. I know you can’t admit that to yourself, but it is a fact of being human. You are human aren’t you😱

  36. Anonymous says:

    It boils down to a lack of self-awareness & self-control. Both are required to have & hold public office.

    This discussion is concluded.

    • Smell My Finger says:

      Nope…no it’s not. The argument is weak that is punctuated with “this discussion is concluded” or the more widely used “end of discussion” — both are common debating tools of low-IQ libtards.

      Derp.

      • Smell My Finger says:

        Your violent comment outs you as a Granny Goodness supporting libtard. Skittle-shitting unicorns, and all of that.

        Are you even employed, sir?

    • Sparkles says:

      Kintner has no shame, nor do his apologists.

      He long ago proved himself a buffoon, incapable of adding anything to informed, thoughtful debate.

      The real question nobody is asking:
      How is it possible his constituents could be so misinformed, so devoid of critical thinking skills to elect him to a second term?

      • bynd says:

        Much like Obama supporters and Hillary’s sycophants. The state of the political system and the two representatives the majority parties have running now, is all it takes to understand what the problem is. The biggest mistake is, too many have joined the fray in the pigsty, and can’t see beyond the mud. Partisans, what a pathetic bunch.

      • bynd says:

        Sparkles,

        Apologists? I would expect such an observation from one in the pigsty. Pay close attention. Apologists no, pointing out the hypocrisy and self righteous of some yes. Much like you do to
        Christians and Kintner. I would think you would know the difference.

  37. Aloha Mr. Hand says:

    Great stats ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..

    No one is thinking of the real victim, the web cam. That poor webcam had to watch the whole act and it is now burned into its little memory forever. A moment of silence for the brave little webcam,

    • Sparkles says:

      No, not a moment of silence for Poor Little Webcam, but a TRIBUTE to his heroism.
      A tribute in the form a salute, accompanied by the song, One Tin Soldier, from the movie Billy Jack –

      Go ahead and hate your neighbor
      Go ahead and cheat a friend
      Do it in the name of heaven
      You can justify it in the end
      There won’t be any trumpets blowing
      Come the judgment day
      On the bloody morning after
      One tin soldier rides away

      : )

      (by the way, a movie that absolutely does NOT stand the test of time)

  38. Anon says:

    It was prescient of the senator sitting behind Kintner to have a bottle of purell to use before/after shaking hands.

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