Adrian Smith draws a Primary opponent

Kirk Penner

Nebraska’s 3rd District Rep. Adrian Smith has drawn an opponent for his May 15, 2018 Congressional Primary.

The candidate’s name is Kirk Penner of Aurora. He is an owner of family business, Penner Manufacturing.

Learn more about him at his campaign website here.

And he has one big issue, in contrast with Smith: Country of origin labeling on beef:

We will see where this campaign, against powerful House Ways and Means Committee member Adrian Smith goes.

232 comments

  1. Pass the popcorn says:

    The Republican party is a magnet for the odd and unhinged.

    Check out Penner’s site and his embrace of Main Street Gov –
    In late 2018, latest 2019, the economic world as we know it, will not just set itself alight — it will ignite in a way that will not extinguish. In no time, the blaze will swell into an inferno that cannot be contained.

    • Anonymous says:

      I did check it out. But I didn’t have three hours to read it. He better get his points succinct or it’s unlikely anybody will bother to find out what he believes.

      • Yep says:

        Penner overtly embraces Main Street Gov – it serves as the primary economic underpinning of his campaign.
        The message of Main Street Gov is:
        It is with great certainty that America and the world are on the precipice of a massive financial apocalypse that will level all global economies.
        This devastation will sweep the world – this year (at the latest 2019).

        What Penner’s campaign is ultimately offering are the solutions he and Main Street Gov (The Economic Party) have waiting in the wings to rebuild the coming wasteland that was once America.

        Penner’s amorphous group (no named leaders, no officers, no known personnel) Main Street Gov is an offshoot of an equally amorphous, The Economic Party, which on their website heralds:
        “Reputedly born by the side of a food-truck in Washington DC, the Party has been expanding quietly since (2008), with minimal footprint to select cities around the country — footprint minimality being a prerequisite to any viable political opponency, with longevity, in the modern surveillance state..
        ..By 2010, they had found their candidates for President and Vice-President of the United States for the Nov 3 2020 General Election.
        For the record: Since its inception, the Economic Party’s plans were to contest the Nov 8 2016 General Election, but.. ”

        Is it necessary to continue?

        You want a succinct version of the Penner message? How about this:
        1) Nuttery
        2) Nuttery
        3) Nuttery

        Of course, this won’t preclude him from victory in the deep red Republican NE03.
        Donald Trump and our Republican congress serve as irrefutable proof that nuttery sells.

      • AmericanPride says:

        So…………You are asking him to NOT include his platform and stance? You will be happy with Smith’s site. He won’t tell you much.

    • Pass the popcorn says:

      By the way, I applaud and admire what Penner has done for his community. Every Nebraska community would be fortunate to have a Kirk Penner.

      It’s just..

  2. American Carnage says:

    In the daily torrent of corruption and graft that is Trump’s America, school shootings have become little more than a sidebar.

    Today, at least 2 students were shot dead, 16 others wounded at a high school in Kentucky.
    Yesterday it was a school shooting in Texas.

    Nothing from your president regarding yesterday’s shooting.
    Nothing from your president regarding today’s multiple fatality shooting spree in Kentucky.

    Then again, we’d be remiss to forget this recent headline –
    FBI investigating whether Russia funneled cash to NRA to aid Trump’s …
    McClatchy, 6 days ago – The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency,

    And of course, If these were Muslims doing the shooting…

    • progressives, failed evolution says:

      Then under your rationale you are saying Obama was responsible for Sandy Hook.

      Johnson: Informant says FBI officials revealed in ex-Mueller officials’ texts held ‘off-site’ meetings

      And we could fill pages with the misdeeds of the FBI.

      And now, Biden blames McConnell for Obama not releasing all the info they had on the Russians hacking. That’s because Barack didn’t want his buddy Putin being embarrassed and as he as he told Vlads great friend, on his reelection he would have more leeway to do as he wished.

      And speaking of dingbats, Democratic Rep. Al Green introduces articles of impeachment against Trump–again

      And finally, even Dem staffers get in on the perversion, Congresswoman’s ex-staffers plead guilty to leaking nude photos. Former staffers admit to circulating lewd photos of Democratic rep, husband

      • progressives, failed evolution says:

        If you can’t go by yourself, you certainly couldn’t be of any help at all. Grow up and be an adult. Yes, you can leave mommy and daddy’s basement and still live. Do you always take some one else to the bathroom with you also?

      • progressives, failed evolution says:

        Everyone has their priorities. Mine are not yours. And please don’t use as an excuse to not do something. You’re and adult, I believe.

  3. Asinus Abbatoir says:

    Penner has a hate Pelosi, hate Trump, love main street approach that seems insane but is probably just stupidity.

    Dear members of the Jackass party. Yes, Republicans do attract the toothless banjo idiots. But you Democrats have the corner on latte sipping worshippers of niceness who are all closet sadists. Your idiots deem themselves sophisticates because they upgrade to a zither but are just as stupid.

    The difference being, the snotty hubris in leftists makes you infinitely easier to PC bait to suicide. And hubris of course also makes you unpitiable when you self destruct. That’s nice. We don’t feel obliged to piss on your graves. Its just mildly funny you are there.

    • Anon says:

      Thanks for such a profound contribution, Asinus.

      An evolution from screaming Dirty F-ing Hippies to screaming lattes and zithers.
      As always, really substantive stuff.

  4. progressives, never miss an opportunity to raise taxes says:

    Starbucks said Wednesday it will increase wages and enact other perks for more than 150,000 U.S. employees as a direct result of recent tax reform, joining other corporations in rewarding workers.

    vs

    Blue states ramp up push to ‘evade’ chunk of Trump’s tax reform. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a likely 2020 Democratic presidential contender, wants to largely end the personal income tax, instead imposing an employer-side payroll tax that’s deductible on federal taxes. This would ease the impact of the SALT cap for employees, though companies would likely adjust wages – which could be offset with a credit.
    California state Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, a 2018 Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate, proposed a separate bill to allow residents to donate to the California Excellence Fund—which would go to the state budget—and in return get a dollar-for-dollar state tax credit on the full amount of the contribution. California taxpayers would then be able to deduct that ‘charitable’ contribution from their federal taxes, making up for any loss from the SALT cap.

    .

  5. Word says:

    Yesterday Politico published the latest in their podcast series ‘Off Message’.
    The podcast featured Tony ‘Dollars for Jeebus’ Perkins, president of the Family Research Council (founded by James Dobson). FRC is America’s most prominent evangelical activist group and the yearly sponsor of the annual bible thumping ritual and GOP rite of passage, Value Voters Summit in Washington D.C. FRC and evangelicals threw their full weight behind the Dahnald and still support him by overwhelming margins.

    On the podcast the host, Zack Stanton, asks Perkins directly:
    “What about all the porn star stuff?.. We have a situation where it seems, this woman is claiming, that she had sex with Donald Trump 3 months after his son was born. So he’s married and with a porn star. That just seem’s like it would be a huge problem?”

    Perkins replies:
    “..We kind of gave him—‘All right, you get a mulligan. You get a do-over here,”

    Unable to control his laughter, Stanton responds:
    “A mulligan, for the first 70 years of his life?”

    There you have it. One year into Donald Trump’s presidency and two realities are now carved into stone, forever irrefutable:
    1) The religious right and ‘Moral Majority’ are wholly amoral.
    (as if anyone with an I.Q. over the factory setting on a frig hadn’t already surmised as much)

    and with the GOP Tax Scam, the massive new $1.500,000,000,000.00 hole blown in our debt:
    2) ‘Fiscal Conservatives’ could give a rats arse about fiscal conservatism.

    We should probably throw in:
    3) The modern GOP hates and will do anything in the power to undermine the dedicated men and women charged with protecting our homeland, the FBI.

    • A few have refused the Trump tainted communion koolaid says:

      After hearing of Perkins absolution, former RNC Chair Michael Steele, to Trump’s evangelical backers:
      “Don’t ever preach to me about anything ever again. After telling me how to live my life, who to love, what to believe, what not to believe, what to do and what not to do and now you sit back and the prostitutes don’t matter? The grabbing the you-know-what doesn’t matter? The outright behavior and lies don’t matter? Just shut up.”

    • progressives, failed evolution says:

      Actually, if you folks had a modicum of intelligence, you would realize even heathens like you are forgiven. If Christians waited for a candidate that was without sin, they would never vote. and I suppose you would like that. On the other hand, you’re a hypocrite also. what’s laughable is any human condemning another thinking they are morally superior. We see where that has gotten many progressive leaders in the last few months.

      Even Jesus said he came not to condemn.

      Evidently, you think yourself above Jesus.

      And by the way, what makes you morally superior to the President? What makes you morally superior to anyone?

      • Russians are sparkles says:

        Shall we use your vulgarity to insure we use words you understand? So what you are saying is you spend time with prostitutes but feel bad about it and it makes it ok.

        In the Biblical world, a sin is a sin. There is only one unforgivable sin. It works that way because God is perfect and any sin keeps you from him. Doesn’t matter which one. Thus the Beatitudes. To show no one is good enough. Jesus words not mine. So your condemnation is hypocritical at best. Not to excuse those with an audience declaring who is the worse sinner or who is going to hell. But, if your confident in your beliefs, you ignore those bozos just like ignoring sparkles who likes to call people all sorts of name. Rather bush league and boorish. It impacts only those with the intelligence level of, sparkles. But it helps the people nferior feel more important than they are.

    • Sally Aces says:

      When Billy the Clinton was the man his sexual pecadillos were ” keep out of the bedroom” compartmentalized and nothing to do with business, be that as it may, how do we play it

      • Here's yer sign says:

        You know, you’re right.
        I can’t recall a single occasion when the GOP, or the Moral Majority, has ever made a big deal of Bill Clinton’s attraction to the ladies.
        Not even employed as fodder for hate radio, for folks like Rush ‘Viagra by the Bucket” Limbaugh or Sean ‘TaterHead’ Hannity.

        ha
        ha ha ha
        bwaAAA HA HA HAAAA!!

    • Political Novice says:

      I’m relieved to hear this. I was told by an evangelist that as an atheist I was headed straight to hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. One way ticket. No way out. Under the new rules I can now declare a mulligan – YAY! Of course he told my democratic friend the same thing by voting for Trump. Somehow I think my chances for absolution are better.

  6. While on the topic of says:

    new entrants to GOP scrum – former Massey Energy CEO Don Blankenship formally kicked off his Republican Senate campaign in West Virginia the other day. It was less than a year ago that Blankenship was released from prison, following a conviction for conspiring to violate federal mine safety standards.

    If the name Don Blankenship rings a bell, it’s because of this –
    Coal Baron, Convicted After 29 Miners Died

    And, while on the topic of Coal Barons and the GOP, this Jan 9th story is a must read. It’s yet another peek behind the curtains at the GOPlutocracy actively engaged in snuffing out our Democracy –
    Trump Appointees Accidentally Fuck Over Coal Companies In Name Of Free Market. WHOOPS!

  7. Perspective from the 3rd says:

    I like the idea of a successful businessman running in the 3rd. Country of origin labeling is a big deal to the cattle producers in the 3rd. It should be a big deal to everyone in the state. We are the “Beef State.” It’s the #1 driver of our state’s economy after all. Adrian brings as much to the table on the Ways and Means Committee as Miley Cyrus would bring to the American Medical Association Board. I don’t want to reelect Adrian just because he’s a nice guy. Mike Riley was a nice guy too. Career Politician with no private sector experience is what Adrian Smith is.

      • GOPlutocracy says:

        Of course Pete’s ‘private sector experience’ was playing Donkey Kong in a really sweet office at TD Ameritrade while Pop paid other people to do his job.
        Pete and Pop liked the arrangement so much that after Joe bought the Governorship (and the rubes cheered), they moved the whole thing to Lincoln – Jan 16, 2015 – LJS:
        Ricketts names COO for governor’s office
        “Gov. Pete Ricketts on Friday created a new position of chief operating officer in the governor’s office and named to it Felix Davidson, who has been president of TD Ameritrade Clearing Inc. since 2007.”

    • What's the Matter with Kansas says:

      Perspective, you (rightfully) state:
      Country of origin labeling is a big deal to the cattle producers in the 3rd. It should be a big deal to everyone in the state. We are the “Beef State.” It’s the #1 driver of our state’s economy after all.

      Then why in God’s name do you people vote Republican?
      Why is NE03 one of the REDDEST districts in America?
      (by the way, this is doubly true for the repeal of Obamacare – it’s INSANE that you people haven’t embraced the ACA – only ignorance of the law and it’s overwhelming benefit to rural America – farm/ranch families specifically – could be the reason for your aversion)

      The sole reason COOL doesn’t exist is because the Republican party is beholden to the deep pockets of Meat Packers and Big AG.

      Do you people, who do this for a living, really not understand that?!
      How the f is that possible?

      GOP Looking to Repeal Food Labeling Law
      November 18, 2004 | Associated Press
      “WASHINGTON – Telling consumers where their meat, fruit and vegetables came from seemed such a good idea to U.S. ranchers and farmers in competition with imports that Congress two years ago ordered the food industry to do it. But meatpackers and food processors fought the law from the start, and newly emboldened Republicans now plan to repeal it before Thanksgiving.

      As part of the 2002 farm bill, country-of-origin labeling was supposed to have gone into effect this fall. Congress last year postponed it until 2006. Now, House Republicans are trying to wipe it off the books as part of a spending bill they plan to finish this month.

      House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said he expected the Senate to agree to repealing the measure, whose main champion two years ago was Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.”

      And from Food Safety News, June 11, 2015:
      House Votes to Repeal Country-of-Origin Labeling for Meat
      Your TEA party Republican controlled House again killed COOL. The bill was H.R. 2393, it was introduced by Texas Republican Rep. Michael Conaway. The vote was 300 – 131, broken down thusly:
      Republicans 234 Yeas 10 Nays (one of those YEAS – to repeal COOL, was ADRIAN SMITH!)
      Democrats 66 Yeas 121 Nays
      (it takes a simple majority, 218 votes, to pass bill in the House)

      This bill was then sent to the Senate, where we learn:
      U.S. exporters can now breathe a sigh of relief,” said Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, chairman of the Senate Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry Committee. The longtime opponent of the labels helped add the repeal to a massive year-end spending bill.

      How about next time you’re having coffee down at Millies Road Kill and Grog Haus, you folks have a serious conversation about how the Republican party has lied to you and sold you out – for decades.
      And while you’re at it, here’s some quick reads you can share with your friends:
      Nov 11, 2017
      Trans-Pacific Trade Partners Are Moving On, Without the U.S.

      Yesterday – The University of Kansas
      New TPP agreement, tariffs show countries rebuke Trump trade policies, trade law expert says

      And 14 hours ago –
      Meet the New Leaders on Global Trade
      Abandoned by the U.S., the 11 countries in the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact are going ahead anyway.

      • Progressives, failed evolution says:

        It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than educate a progressive. Which is plain to all except the most zealot of partisans, Obama’s EPA among other of his cabinets through massive and ill advised regulations where raising farm cost in a unsustainable way. For a farmer to support far left policies that affected the farm was to vote to go out of business. Thus the big ag industry which it appears the Dems support by their actions would clean up. The ACA as a failing system was going to do them no favors going forward.

        All in all, to the knowledgeable and smart, progressives are not a friend of the farmer. And what good is NAFTA or PPP when you no longer can afford to farm.

    • AmericanPride says:

      Could not agree more. Check out Smith’s payments from the meat packers and from the technology vote. Want to magnify your service income by ten-fold…………..sell your votes.
      How about voting on behalf of the people that put you there instead of trying to climb the political ladder at all costs by being a ‘yes-man.’ Placed on a powerful committee and doing nothing for us.

    • Tin Roof... rusted says:

      Breaking –
      DOLTSYLVANIA – Sudden global shortage of tin foil leaves manufacturers scrambling!!
      Jiffy Pop announces factory closure until solution can be found! Pie crust makers in a panic!!

  8. Hey halfwits, you're being played for fools says:

    As of 8:41am this morning, this is what the Russian Bots are pushing – or as Hamilton 68 describes it; “Subjects discussed by a monitored set of accounts related to Russian influence campaigns on Twitter with the highest percentage increase over the last 48 hours”

    Top Russian Bot Hashtag being pushed (by a wide margin): #releasethememo

    Top Trending Topic; Charles Grassley
    – And for those wondering why Russian Bots would be engaged in a coordinated push of Chuck Grassley –
    11 hours ago – Washington Times (and Politico and The Federalist and..) –
    Sen. Chuck Grassley accuses FBI, Justice Department of blocking key information on Russia dossier

    Top Topic being pushed by Russian bots: FBI

    Top URL being pushed: foxnews
    (Rupert Murdoch’s rag NY Post is number 3 and Hannity is number 5)

    Top Domains – Among the top 10 domains being promoted by Russians bots are:
    True Pundit (Kremlin linked, Pro-Trump, freakishly far right site)
    RT (Russia’s official state mouthpiece – where Alex Jones directly copies much of his material)
    Sputnik (russian ‘news’ agency)
    zerohedge – right wing fetid swamp
    Hannity – TaterHead Time!
    Fox News – ‘For Two Decades – Destroying America from within for Fun and Profit’

    You people and the Republican party are in bed with the Kremlin in a coordinated campaign to destroy the FBI and DOJ in order to defend – Donald F-ing Trump!! A criminally inclined grifter who is hard at work turning America into a Shithole Country.

    Chuck Grassley, Devin Nunes, Bob Goodlatte, Ron Johnson, Matt Gaetz and a dozen other Republican elected officials should be arrested and brought up on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy.

    And you people cheering them on are unwitting traitors to your country.

    • Russians are sparkles says:

      So, you spend a lot of time at those Russian bot sites? Which only have an impact on partisans like you. You can’t change what the Russians will do. Just keep trying to educate the voting public. Something you are very poor at. Quit frankly, the difference between Russian bot’s and your are negligible. You have tried to turn the public into accepting such drivel since I’ve been on here. You complaining about the Russians is the most hysterical part of your post.

  9. Hey halfwits, you're being played for fools says:

    No way to do this briefly – for those not mentally challenged and with an attention span long enough to survive a paragraph – this is Hamilton 68, from Wikipedia.

    Alliance for Securing Democracy
    The Alliance for Securing Democracy (ASD) is a bipartisan transatlantic national security advocacy group with a stated mission of countering what it describes as an “unprecedented attack” on United States democracy by Russia. The alliance is chaired and run primarily by former senior United States intelligence and State Department officials. Its daily operations are led by Laura Rosenberger, a former senior State Department official in the Obama administration, and Jamie Fly, former national security counselor to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). The initiative is housed at The German Marshall Fund of the United States and pursues its work in both the United States and Europe.

    In 2016, the CIA, FBI, NSA, and the Director of National Intelligence [3] concluded that Russia had interfered in US elections. The Alliance for Securing Democracy declared that it will develop strategies to “defend against, deter, and raise the costs” on any attempts by Russia or “other state actors” to undermine democracy Former acting CIA Director Michael Morrell stated that the group will fulfill some of the role that ideally would have been handled by a national investigative commission.

    The “Hamilton 68” Dashboard on the ASD website tracks in real-time 600 Twitter social media accounts that the ASD believes are either linked to the Russian government or repeat its views. In September 2017, the group launched a similar German-language website focused on possible Russian influence in German politics. The ASD’s tracking encompasses social media accounts it suspects are related to the Russian government or Russian state media, as well as accounts it believes to be unconnected to Russia, but which repeat what it sees as Russian government views.

    Advisory council and staff
    The ASC is governed by an Advisory Council and an operating staff who are drawn from the American Marshall Fund. The Washington Post called the membership of the advisory council “a who’s who of former senior national security officials from both [the Democratic and Republican] parties.” Members of the bipartisan personnel include Michael Chertoff (Republican – former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security) and Mike McFaul (Democrat – former US Ambassador to Russia).

    ASD’s current Board: (the “who’s who”)
    Michael Chertoff – above
    Toomas Ilves – former President of the Republican of Estonia
    David Kramer – Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of State during the George W. Bush
    Bill Kristol – Editor of large for the most influential right wing publ in history, The Weekly Standard
    Michael Morell – above
    Mike McFaul – former Sr. Dir. for Russian and Eurasian Affairs at the National Security Council
    Mike Rogers – former (hard right) Republican member of Congress, FBI special agent. and Chair of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee
    Kori Schake – lot’s of DOD, NSC roles, Sr. Policy Adv to McCain/Palin, now at right wing Hoover Inst.
    Julie Smith – impressive, go look it up
    Admiral James Stavridis, U.S. Navy (Ret.) – ditto
    Jake Sullivan – ditto
    Nicole Wong – ditto

  10. anon says:

    First of all it’s twitter, the trend did last more than average last week, 4,6,maybe 8 hours. i think I can be safe in there is bots on both sides, and bots that play bots. Micheal Chertoff- whitewater Prosecutor, i say again prosecutor(swamp lawyer) and endorser of HRC. Bill Kristol-talking head necon for CNN(Weak Jeb crushed early in the primaries). Hamilton 68(Hamilton-cute tag, Hamilton the overpriced elitist climax). did you have to go to hack republicans for source, was it CNN. And there is no there there for Hannity’s tin hat memo, remember.Try a little depth.

  11. Something doesn't smell right says:

    From today’s LJS –
    Adrian Smith heads to Canada to argue for NAFTA
    Smith, who represents western and central Nebraska along with the northeastern and southeastern corners of the state, said the congressional delegation is going to Montreal to “raise awareness” about the economic benefits of NAFTA.

    “It is not our job to negotiate,” he said.
    —————–

    So, if you not involved in the negotiations, you’re going to do… what again? Roam the halls? Catch a hockey game?
    What’s it going to cost taxpayers to send Adrian ‘1 Fry Short of a Happy Meal’, to Montreal in search of a plate of poutine?

    Can you say – POLITICAL PLOY?

    By the way, google up Adrian and this ‘congressional delegation’ to which he’s been selected.
    For the life of me I can’t find a damn thing. There’s nothing outside a couple tiny media outlets picking up a press release from Adrian Smith.
    It would appear that the entire ‘congressional delegation’ to which Adrian refers, consists of Mr. Smith and the turd in his pocket.

  12. $1,200,000,000,000 just won't buy much these days says:

    Jan 24, 2018, Fortune –
    Lockheed’s F-35 Fighters Will Cost $1.2 Trillion. After 16 Years, Only 50% Are Ready to Fly
    “Pentagon officials including Deputy Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan and chief weapons buyer Ellen Lord have highlighted the need to reduce the F-35’s $406.5 billion projected acquisition cost and its estimated $1.2 trillion price tag for long-term operations and support through 2070. Still, the Defense Department is moving to accelerate contracting and production for the fighter despite the persistence of technical and reliability issues..
    ..A final version of the plane’s complex software has gone through 31 variations and has yet to be deployed because of “key remaining deficiencies,” the report found.”

    Giant
    Sucking
    Sound

  13. progressives, failed evolution says:

    Verizon Communications Inc. said it will give employees 50 shares of stock each, a $380 million bonus that the company said is the result of federal tax reform.

    Home Depot (HD) announced on Thursday that it will pay its U.S. hourly workers a one-time bonus of up to $1,000 tied to President Trump’s tax reform.

    And on and on.

  14. The Mainstreaming of Right Wing Terrorism says:

    According to court documents, Brandon Griesemer from Novi, Michigan made more than 20 calls to CNN over a two day period about a week ago. During one of them, Griesemer told a CNN operator that the network is “fake news.”
    “You are going down. I have a gun and I am coming to Georgia right now to go to the CNN headquarters to f***ng gun down every single last one of you. I have a team of people. It’s going to be great, man,” said Griesemer on another call. “You gotta get prepared for this one.”

    In others, he made racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic comments, such as “Fake news. I’m coming to gun you all down. F*** you, f***ing n*****s.”

    Griesemer has also been linked with threatening calls made to an Islamic center in Michigan last year.

    Former high school classmates of Griesemer recall him openly declaring that he identified with Adolf Hitler and suggested “the Holocaust was exaggerated,”.

    Apparently, since Greisemer is a pretty run-o–the mill, generic right wing terrorist by today’s standards (in Trump’s America), Greisemer is already free on just $10,000 bond. He was charged, arrested, and released all in a single day, last Friday.

    If you think for a single solitary moment that a Muslim-American who made 22 hateful, violent calls to CNN threatening mass casualties would’ve been charged, arrested, and released on the same day, with a bond of any kind, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

    • Uncle Liberty says:

      But, wut about ANTEEFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      And, um, er, GORGE STOROS and SALLY ALOOSKY!!!!!!

      – spittle-blurp-snort-guffaw –
      RELEASE MY MEEMA!!

  15. Employees must wash hands says:

    The Trump White House asked The Guggenheim to loan them Vincent van Gogh’s 1888 Landscape With Snow for their private residence.
    The museum curator turned them down, offering instead a Golden Toilet.

  16. Righteous says:

    “there’s times a spade just needs to be called a spade.”
    – Jim Pillen

    Hal Daub and the Thug Troika (Brewer, Halloran, Erdman) bitch-slapped by the NU Board of Regents.

    From the article –
    “In asking Bounds how many complaints of political censorship NU has received, Regent Paul Kenney of Amherst said the state should feel confident in the university’s approach.

    “Fifty-three thousand students and one complaint,” he said. “Look how much time has been spent on it.”

    • Anonymous says:

      53,000 students and 2 protesters(faculty) on the girl. Not the right measure? How many students passed that table. Look at the gymnastic doctor and the university, a environment of supresston. Whose gig is it down there. Is their no room to question.

      • Anonymous says:

        Professor, I suggest if this is what you seek, if you had the guts you could make it. Being anti-Trump is not a novel position. Read the list, it may give you a couple ideas. If you played Amanda’s advocate to achieve this honor would be more your style

      • Well, I could be like Danielle Allen, and write a column in the Washington Post comparing the election of Trump to the German elections of 1932. That got her on the list. Problem is, I doubt the WaPo would consider me any sort of expert on German politics, and rightly so.

        The other problem is that Allen is a woman of color, and Charlie Kirk has publicly blamed his rejection by West Point on a woman of color being preferred over him. He seems to have issues. I don’t think that as I straight white man I could arouse the same level of antipathy in Kirk. I’d probably have to celebrate a satanic mass in class, and it’s so hard to work that into a consideration of the colligative effects of solutions.

  17. progressives, failed evolution says:

    How far out of touch with the middle class people, that progressive allege to be champions of. are they? Especially since they have refunded to those folks none of their own money? But hey, you got an Obama phone.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who as the 15th richest member of Congress has a minimum net worth of nearly $30 million, referred to the millions of dollars in bonuses and pay hikes announced by more than 100 companies in the wake of the new tax law as “crumbs.”

    Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri called the benefits of tax reform “scraps,” which sounds even worse than “crumbs.” Those “scraps” include $1,000 bonuses for all employees at the Bank of Advance in Advance, Missouri. Central Bancompany and BancorpSouth are also giving four-figure bonuses to Missouri-based employees.

    Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota at first tried to persuade her middle-class constituents that they were facing a $10,000 tax increase. When that distortion was exposed, she quietly backtracked, although she still has not publicly acknowledged her dishonesty or apologized to state residents.

    Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio said he “introduced multiple amendments that could have put real money in the pockets of Ohioans. Instead Washington chose to cut taxes for millionaires and corporations.” But Ohioans in every tax bracket will get a tax cut, and the typical family of four with the median income will get a tax cut of more than $2,000.

    Sen. Joe Donnelly of Indiana proclaimed that “instead of providing a tax cut that overwhelmingly benefits the middle class, this bill cuts taxes for the wealthiest Americans while raising taxes on a majority of families making less than $75,000 in the coming years.” Again, simply not true. A Tax Foundation analysis shows a tax cut for all income groups, “with some of the largest changes in after-tax income accruing to moderate-income families with children.”

    Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin tried worn out and dishonest class warfare, too. “This is largely a tax giveaway to the wealthiest few, big corporations and Wall Street while millions of middle class families will face tax hikes,” Baldwin said.
    Not only will those families be getting a tax cut instead, but Wisconsinites will also benefit in other ways. Green Bay-based Associated Bank, the state’s largest, is raising its minimum wage to $15 an hour and giving employees a $500 bonus. Stevens Point-based Copperleaf Assisted Living will hand out $60,000 in bonuses to employees — equal to the company’s entire savings from tax reform.

    And as for the ACA. Canada health plan idolized by Dems has worst year ever

    While they watch the shinny objects, real good things are happening to their claimed “base”.

    Yeah, can’t wait for that that 2018 democrat wave.

  18. Umm says:

    The face of campus outreach by Turning Point is a table and troll emblazoned with banners, t-shirts and buttons screaming “Socialism SUCKS”, “Big Government SUCKS” and the word ‘COEXIST’, each letter of the word fashioned from images of handguns, rifles, uzi’s and ammunition belts.

    Rest assured, there are few of those 53,000 students passing by that table/troll who feel compelled to positively engage these little fascist wannabes, even in a red state like Nebraska.

    Until last summer, the #2 person at TP USA, a person most responsible for building TP USA was
    Crystal Clanton, the group’s National Field Director.
    This Crystal Clanton, who sent a text message to another Turning Point employee saying, “i hate black people. Like fuck them all . . . I hate blacks. End of story.”

    • progressives, failed evolution says:

      Excerpt that, you can google the Turning Point table at UNL picture and there are no guns on the banners. Or, you can Google Turning point banners and I saw no guns there either.

      I pretty sure I have pointed out before, most folks aren’t as gullible as you so you shouldn’t use yourself as a standard for idiocy.

    • Bottom line says:

      On the other hand let’s take all the orgs. and the number of “bad actors”. Turning point, is it like the worst group, WTF. Isn’t it a free speech issue?

      • Also known as: Trump's Base says:

        Re your question:
        Turning point, is it like the worst group

        Well, I guess you’ve got a point.
        After all, there is still the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party, the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, the National Association for the Advancement of White People, the Volksfront and the White Aryan Resistance.

        And we’d remiss not to mention the 3 Percenters, the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights, the Hutaree, the Michigan Militia and the Oath Keepers.

      • Also known as: Trump's Base says:

        What was it again the Jim Pillen said to Hal Daub?… Oh, yes –

        “there’s times a spade just needs to be called a spade.”

  19. progressives, failed evolution says:

    Crystal Clanton who? The no longer an employee of Turning Point Crystal Clanton?

    And how many snowflakes have you excused with the excuse they have been fired or don’t work for us anymore.

    And not to make you feel totally embarrassed, but that is last years news.

    Correcting you is like shooting coots in a barrel with a howitzer.

  20. Bircher progeny says:

    Turning Point USA features on the very first page of their Facebook page an image of the smattering of misfit kids that make up their Kent State contingent.

    The kids are all posing with professionally printed Turning Point placards, two of which proclaim:
    “I’m Pro Choice – Pick Your Gun”
    under which are images of a semi-auto pistol (Glock 27), an Assault Style Rifle an a 12 gauge Shotgun.

    a second placard says:
    “Fear the Government That Fears Your Guns

    Be careful if you visit their Facebook page – the glaring whiteness may temporarily blind you.

  21. I'm the howitzer, you're the coot says:

    I’m Pro Choice – Pick Your Gun” Fear the Government That Fears Your Guns

    But what you said bozo, the word ‘COEXIST’, each letter of the word fashioned from images of handguns, rifles, uzi’s and ammunition belts. One example out of thousands.

    And it is nice to know that you don’t think our government does not suck today. How refreshing you find such phrases wrong and out of place.

    Point, your hysteria is hysteria to only you. As for your list of the bad ones on the far right, we could list many on the left. But why? You are the only one gullible enough to believe your propaganda BS.

  22. I'm the howitzer, you're the coot says:

    Be careful if you visit their Facebook page – the glaring whiteness may temporarily blind you.

    Says the old bald white guy. With pasty skin because he can’t stand out in the sun. The glare blinds him.

    But evidently it didn’t blind you. You keep telling us what you believe you saw on there.

    BOOM.

  23. progressives, failed evolution says:

    FedEx programs:

    $200 million in increased compensation: Two-thirds will be allocated to hourly employees by advancing the 2018 annual pay increase to April 1 rather than the normal October increase date. The remaining funds will go toward increases in performance-based incentive plans for salaried employees
    $1.5 billion voluntary contribution to the FedEx pension plan
    $1.5 billion investment to expand the FedEx Express Indianapolis hub over the course of the next seven years. Plans also call for the modernization and enlargement of the Memphis SuperHub. FedEx plans to announce those details in spring 2018.

    In the release, the company said it believes the tax reform will likely increase the GDP and fuel investments in the U.S. FedEx also acknowledged that its 2018 fiscal earnings and capital expenditure guidance that was issued Dec. 19, 2017, has not changed.

    “[T]he tax bill corrects something that has been a real problem for American business for years, and that is the punitive tax code that we used to have that dissuaded investment,” Smith told Varney. “And, investment is the only way to make blue collar workers — people who don’t have college degrees — more productive and have more income. You can hire six people to move a pile of dirt or you can hire one person with a bulldozer. The difference is the bulldozer. The bulldozer driver makes a lot more money than the people with the shovels.”

  24. so much for taxing the rich. says:

    Progressives are now the party of the rich.

    Cuomo says East Coast states will sue feds, looking to thwart key piece of tax overhaul

    After the rest of the country has subsidized them for decades with their oversized deductions.

  25. Anonymous says:

    By seeming to be against amnesty for 690,000 DACAs, Trump baited Dems to a govt shut down that embarassed them. Now he offers amnesty to 1.8 million illegals in exchange for a wall and two provisos few notice.

    The provisos matter, the numbers don’t.

    Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million, Obama to 5 million and GWB wanted amnesty for 11 million; and yet all past Presidents left a leaky border and two crippling legal loopholes, CHAIN MIGRATION and VISA LOTTERIES, which by “cousin math” makes everyone on earth in theory eligible for a green card and by “luck” gives Hannibal Lector a chance to win one.

    Getting rid of these two loopholes is Trump’s goal, his critical provisos. All the twists and turns is him greasing the skids for these two long-term fixes to our immigration system.

    • One device: a whole new ballgame says:

      Ethnic baiting for votes is a really stupid idea. Like climate change, or globalists, it is a anticipation of brainiacs excluding intangibles they created or have no control over. Elitists love to jump right on this crap because they hedge it will not effect them so bad. Globalism: How’s that working for NOKO.

      • Anonymous says:

        I get your point 8:23. Trump does PC baiting but I had not thought of DC elites as “ethnic baiting”. My family is mixed race and immigrant and we sided with Trump specifically because of his immigration position. I suppose it is the White Democrat Progressives who most push the Race/Ethnic Baiting, like the Rachael Dolzel (sic) white leftist who faked being black and ran a NAACP chapter. Its a cancerous insanity.

        Sure Trump inflames the elites who call him racist. Don’t they know its legal to be racist? Its legal and normal to hate whatever and whomever you wish. If not, every Black American would be arrested for hate. They all have slave ancestors. Most white ancestors came over after 1865 so whites don’t care. Its blacks who hate whites and that’s fine. The crime isn’t hate, the crime is physical denial of anyone’s legal rights. “Hate Crime Law” is a misnomer. Hate is normal. Punishing emotions isn’t. That’s Orwellian PC.

        Democrats are filled to the gills with hate. They are humorless and hateful. It is difficult to feel sorry for them when they fall for Trump’s PC baits. I’m glad they do. All elites, but Democrats mostly, buy into this Ethnic Baiting/Race Division nonsense because they profit by it. It’s a liberal cottage industry. But it is also for them a blinding cancer and Trump isn’t trying to cure them. He makes a noise that raises their PC hackles and they run off the cliff. Good.

        There’s something Darwinian and wonderful about Trump baiting the cancerous PC to kill its victims by career suicide.

  26. Lil Mac says:

    So Progressive Democrats are Orwellian and solutionist Trump is Darwinian.

    That leaves Conservative Republicans as what? Antediluvian? Not if they are creationists. Perhaps Pagurian (hermit crabs).

    Most bloggers are Abecedarian. Or at least we’d like to think so.

    • Political Novice says:

      Like politics, big words like Orwellian, solutionist and Abecedarian frightens and confuses me. If one of the definitions to “Abecedarian” is one who is still learning or a beginner than I am the poster boy for that word. I am fed constant streams of information both here and elsewhere all trying to convince me their side is just and right. Unfortunately for us living currently, history is the best judge to make that determination. I have no idea if the current administration’s policies will be successful as there is much doubt in my mind as to some of them however all I can do is wait and see until the next election. My vote is as good as a wealthy man however I concede the power of my campaign donation is not.

      I dislike to pigeonhole anyone into a straight liberal or conservative view as I think everyone has different views on what that actually means. I simply try to listen to both sides and weigh their argument. Perhaps I’m delusional but I think both sides want what is best for the country but can’t come to terms as to the best way of going about it. I switch back and forth to CNN and Fox news and both stations are polar opposites of the other. I have a feeling both are preaching to THEIR choir.

      This being said I find myself not warming to our current president. His arrogance and narcissism really turn me off. I suppose if his policies are successful I could overlook that but in the long run that is yet to be seen.

      But what do I know?

  27. Lil Mac says:

    Well said. To know that everything isn’t knowable and that few things are truly dichotomous are elegant profundities that most miss.

    I agree with your evaluation of Trump, ala results versus posturing. The man is rude. So too were Teddy and Winston. They are temporary executive help there to fix problems that most pols find profitable to keep bubbling on back burners.

    I measure the amount of euphemism drowning Wash DC by how much dysphemism it takes to cure it. Trump dumps a truckload of rude every day and yet like tomato seeds sprouting plants from dung heaps, these same old euphemistic flights from reality keep popping up and offering fruit. You can eat it, but its grown in crap. It is more work to plow straight furrows in good earth.

  28. Check it out says:

    If you read the NYT article on Twitter, iy may be there is a full bot battle, probable on all trends but Andrew McCabe is a good example

  29. FWIW says:

    When Trump was elected he addressed a crowd at the mention of Hillary which led to the cries of lock her up, and Trump dismissed it, yet she persisted. The memo is the story you know or have known. Unlike the IRS, used by HW and Obama, it’s the DOJ and security, Using Obama law, some Clintonese with “it depends on what is, is” and obfuscation lawyer/political parsing, a form of the justice, the defacto- you can break the law a little bit with a caste system of penalty box.

  30. bynd says:

    One has to wonder if Kennedy even listened to Trump’s speech. Trump is offering a lot of Dreamers a path to citizenship. and the Dems don’t like it because? Heck, it was their job to come up with an answer in the first place.

    Besides, Kennedy looked like he was drooling from both sides of his mouth.

    That’s what people will remember about him.

  31. bynd says:

    Did any progressive ever realize as part of immigration, some where up the line, a mom and dad, if living, are always left behind?

    Or do only those whose parents are dead immigrate?

  32. bynd says:

    Is it possible that the private sector can come with an answer to our health system?

    Amazon, Berkshire and JP Morgan. They have the resources. Do they have the brain power? How oculd they not.

    It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

    • bynd says:

      Rebuttle to what? More promises and generalities? Let’s take the most obvious. Kennedy says they will fight for the Dreamers. But doesn’t say how many. What you usually hear from the Dems is 800000. Trump offers a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million. He beats the Dems at their own game and they are not quick enough to react to it. So what good is an answer, that really isn’t, that was written not on the specifics of the speech but states the same thing they have been saying for a year, relevant or not.

      As to the drool, many have mentioned it. Speech giving 101, don’t do or wear anything that distracts from your speech.

  33. Asinus Abbatoir says:

    Even some nitwit newsies at FOX are asking “Are we going to get unity”?

    Unity? With whom? Democrats who openly say Trump and his millions of voters should die?

    Democrats gave NK and IRAN money to make nukes to kill the USA. They gave Russia our uranium, they left our front door open, refuse to balance our checkbook and gave our credit cards to teenagers. Democrats sit during our anthem and they sit against black employment.

    Democrats appear barking mad in every way that one can be mad. Suicidally so.

    PBS says five different Democrat responses means the DNC has no coherent message a full year after it lost. PBS is wrong; Democrats have a message. DEMOCRATS WANT AMERICA DEAD RATHER THAN SUCCEED UNDER TRUMP. That showed on the grimacing faces of Schumer and Pelosi.

    The DNC is dying. Its PC bones shattered by dysphemic rude truth.

    Why that works should be obvious.

    Political Correctness is Polite Lies. (Same root word.) Polite Lies fall to Impolite Truth. Truth hurts and yet the Truth shall set you free. Indeed, only truth can hurt and only Truth can set you free.

    You want to “like” your President? Why? Do you drink beer with him? Do you need to like your lawyer or doctor? Is them being incompetent or them endangering you unimportant as long as they are kind? Do you need to like the plumber who drains the shit filled swamp in your house?

  34. bynd says:

    Compare Sen. Joe Manchin III, D WV from last night and today on Fox. Compared to his compatriots, who would you want representing you?

    On the other hand, did the Dems do anything at Trump’s speech that the Repubs did at Obama’s? No. Except no Dems yelled out a stupid comment. Although there were numerous shots of Nancy running off her mouth to who knows who.

  35. bynd says:

    Why does the party who claims to represent the minorities, pick as their spokesperson, a young, rich by inheritance, privileged white male, to speak for them to their base?

    Because they are they only type of leader who the minorities can trust?

  36. Leavenworthless says:

    How many FBI directors can a president fire before s/he creates the appearance (if not the fact) of obstruction of justice? Just curious.

  37. It looks like a race between the GOP throwing as much mud they can at Mueller and the FBI, hoping, something, anything, will stick, and Mueller working his way up the food-chain.

    Latest news is that Gates has apparently flipped. Significance is that he was Manafort’s deputy and did a lot of the day-to-day Trump campaign stuff. This is significant because Mueller can now play Gates off against Manafort, promising the best deal to the guy who can sing the loudest.

      • Answering says:

        Did I say anything about anything close about Rod Rosenstein illegal. I consider myself a civil libertarian, being you can be what party you desire to name yourself, but answers like that compared to your free speech representations are justifications of faculty clique political intimidation, but I always knew you were kinda…… phony

  38. Solo says:

    I worked in intelligence, with WMD, PRP, was a TS/SCI mgr, elint, humint, the lot. I am tired of hearing how great FBI agents are as if that’s an excuse for leaving them suffering under an untenable system. Of course, they do their best. I was in intel and military and I guarantee that there isn’t enough blood our troops can shed nor enough danger our agents can suffer to undo the damage done by a dysfunctional system. The greatest victims are our agents. And us.

    Truman called FBI “Gestapo”. Kennedy and Truman and some Republicans tried to fire the FBI’s director and failed. They and all of us today are pawns to a historical mistake made by a busy wartime president. FDR was in a pinch, he needed internal MI5 and he gave it to our Scotland Yard.

    Nobody says Brits have this all sorted out either. But; a) tasking your top Police who are all about protecting the public with an eye to your rights, to, b) do all internal domestic Spying tasked to know all the dangers anyone may present in private, and then putting all that under, c) a partisan political appointee bureaucrat, is begging to be blackmailed and at the very least always dangerously over-empowers one who is over-informed and inherently under-scrutinized. Our Constitution works because it pits power against power, hobbles it structurally and keeps it in the open. They FBI’s structure goes against its spirt. There are ways to do this better, safer, more efficiently.

    When Truman called FBI “Gestapo”, we knew had a problem right then. And it hasn’t eased off. It is systemic and cannot heal itself. It can be fixed but not without us recognizing the system itself is broke. Trump? He stumbled into this. His choice is fix it or it neuters him. I don’t really care about Trump. He’s rich and term limited. The FBI was dysfunctional before him, will be after he goes. It is our prime internal Police and internal Intelligence. But its either spying on Democrats or its spying on Republicans. While that political masturbation goes on, the policing and real spying doesn’t.

  39. Irish Sprung says:

    The Left is chewing off its own foot. Now it is imagining Trump decided to release the memo before he read it, which was legal back when Pelosi told Congressmen to vote for Obamacare and read it later. Stupid but legal. Is Trump stupid? Democrats demand he be stupid. They keep swinging at him and then wake up with their asses hurting but still they keep swinging.

    Unfortunately for all who enjoy that display of leftist suicide, we saw NBC take on CNN recently, and few other cases of Leftists gagging on the sheer size of the chunks in their own bullshit.

    Liberal Media’s employees’ paychecks are increasing, their portfolios swelling and yet they are stuck hating Trump. They don’t even have guns or religion to cling to. The atheistic sons of bitches need something to blow their own brains out, as they in mounting horror try to ignore how they themselves have destroyed their own party out of obstinate stupidity.

    But they at least are Democrats. Its some sort of excuse.

    Despite Ben Sasse being aware enough to keep his mouth relatively shut, Right Wing Professor is going to end up the last holdout of Trump Hate on earth. Reminds me of a night in Newport, in an Irish bar, where unshaven tipsy wags said “stick a quarter in the Juke and play the jig” and sure enough, up jumped a mentally deficient drunk spasmodically jigging to everyone’s prurient amusement and his own inebriated unaware insanity. It is delightfully Darwinian. And pathetic.

    • bynd says:

      Very different from the last administration which played so well to the point of being criminals for the Pres going after his perceived enemies?

      Strong willed President, strong willed subordinates usually produces a few sparks.

      We didn’t see any that from the last administration.

  40. bynd says:

    I see we have a new game on here. It is x degrees of separation between the new snowflake’ investigation darling and the President.

    First it was Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos. The one who claimed to be trained as a scientists who posts on here and of supposed rational and logical thinking, swore it wouldn’t be long before the President was brought down. Next was his son in law Jared. And this time, they had a trail leading to Trump and catching him dead to rights. The RWP just new his mind could lay out publically for all to see his brilliance how it would all work to the President’s disadvantage.

    Now he brings back Muller, Rosenstein and a declaration that it should reach to impeach the President. By the way, do you want him impeached or removed? They are two completely different outcomes. If impeachment is your goal, it sure doesn’t match your hysterical rantings.

    And we could go on about how the scientists has been so wrong since last January. But the obviously no longer rational professor has become the snowflake equivalent of the alt right’s birthers.

    How far they fall when hatred is their life. But I’m sure that this conspiracy nut will continue until he drives himself totally insane.

    And his answers to all of this? BWAHAHAHA!. How adult is that? Does he teach that as an acceptable answer on his tests given to his students. Or does he just write it on there when he wishes to show the student how wrong they are.

    Next, is ad hominem attacks showing how superior he is to anyone else who disagrees with him.

    The obvious answer being, he is a great example of an educated idiot.

    The rest maybe gone, but entertainment from the wacko left is still around.

    But since it shows how intelligent one is, let me join in. BAHAHAHA

  41. Leavenworthless says:

    Question for Mr. Mine’s: if the basis for a FISA was sketchy why did a Federal judge renew it again and again? Because there was a problem, that’s why. Trump is accusing the Judiciary of being politicized via his proxy, Nunes. Trump should be honest: he fears the courts, the only branch of government that can deprive him of office. Undermining the Judiciary offends our Constitution and the American state. All roads lead to impeachment. Stick a fork in Donald, he’s done.

  42. bynd says:

    Will Mueller widen his investigation into the dossier folks and FISA warrant?

    Or, will he not jeopardize his own investigation by searching for the truth?

    I guess we will see if Muller really is a man of integrity.

    And note, I made no opinion on the truth of the memo. Just that it is the same as a dossier for starting an investigation.

    Just the fit that the Dems have thrown lend credence to the memo.

    • Leavenworthless says:

      If Mueller is smart a Federal judge and the defense, individually & severally, will pick through his indictments and find no mention of the dossier, not even a single piece of punctuation. Avoids all controversy that way. We’ll see.

      • bynd says:

        Actually not. They would need to produce the facts upon which the warrant was issued. Not enough, if as alleged, it would be obvious. A least for the judge, he can say he was duped.

      • bynd says:

        Actually it wasn’t. Read the memo. Strzok’s investigation was triggered by information on Papadopoulos. Strzok having no more credibility than…… YOU. But Strozk wasn’t conducting the investigation that the FISA warrant authorized.

        There was no connection between Page and George. As for the rest, it is hilarious that you, who haven’t gotten anything right about this whole mess would put your opinion based on hatred anywhere out there.

        You’re no better than the man you think is Trump. That would make you a Russiankin.

        But in the end it will be what it will be. Only the little minds of little men will concentrate on it. Good, bad or indifferent. Time to move on. Judges to appoint, rules to rescind and DACA kids to be protected. And maybe even the wall. If the Dems would stop obstructing the solution to the DACAs.

        BAHAHAHAHA

      • bynd says:

        Gerard, the russiankin. why would I need to Google anything? Can’t you read and comprehend the memo? Or do you need some off the wall site to support your tin foil half baked BS.

        Get over yourself little man. You’re slinging the same BS you were slinging a year ago. And if retread is all you have, your a pretty worthless poster.

        And if you’re rolling on the floor, it would be in your own feces. You seem to live in such a pig pen world. But hey keep living off of the teat of the state and Trump. It’s what you have reduced ed your self too. And keep paying those taxes, despite the low percentage, I got a nice raise this year bozos like you need to pay for.

      • Yes, dearie. I know the nothingburger memo was written by a not-very intelligent partisan hack. It’s partly false and omits a lot of pertinent facts. It’s about a FISA warrant on a guy the Trump Administration explicitly disavowed as an advisor.

        That’s the best you got? Entonces no tienes nada, pendejo.

        And there’s that scatalogical obsesssion again.

      • Political Novice says:

        Ouch! I think it’s about time for THUNDERDOME!

        Aunt Entity: “You know the law – two men enter, one man leaves.

        Sorry – I couldn’t resist. Carry On.

  43. Ew, Ew, that smell says:

    The Swamp just renewed spying on anybody knowing what was coming, it’s real intent justifiable, since we have no sense of boundary, therefore they ‘couldn’t’ resist. They say it shouldn’t affect Mueller, if you hold your nose.

  44. Leavenworthless says:

    Lemme get this straight. Somebody convinced the FISA that Carter Page might by a spy? That’s it? All I am sure of now is that Devin Nunes is a big, fat dope. The same dope who desperately tried leaking info to Trump that Trump’s staff leaked to Nunes’s staff. What a bunch of maroons, as Bugs Bunny said.

  45. bynd says:

    although tit for tat over the current political memos is fun, they are really irrelevant. In a few weeks, the IG will issue it’s report. And it has already taken out McCabe. According to the head of the FBI, something in the IG report that pertains to Hillary and her email debacle has forced McCabe out. We shall see how it all turns out.

  46. Facts that are not true says:

    The memo had to come out, it said what everyone knew and had read between the lines, but it had to be in the form of swamp-speak and fake news plausible denial, you have to play it by media rules. You just can’t go accusing guilty people of status, they have justifiable reasons for their conduct

    • bynd says:

      So you took all your money out of the stock market right?

      It’s a correction bozo. They happen.

      The Stock Market is dropping—here’s what you should do. CNBC

      The point being, don’t panic like GH. Which seems to stand more and more for Gullible Horses ass.

      • Leavenworthless says:

        Seriously, the hoohaw about any President’ s “management if the economy” is a ridiculous fantasy. All Presidents take unearned credit for good news and avoid responsibility for bad news. Goes with the job.

      • bynd says:

        Wow. I’m so happy for you GH.
        I had no ambition to make a fortune; mere moneymaking has never been my goal. I had an ambition to build.”—John D. Rockefeller.

        But I’ve been retired for almost 12 years now starting at age 55.

        And who do you think is more content with their life?

        Keep gathering those crumbs. But you’ll never have enough. Not a (G)ullible (H)orse’s ass like you.

        Let me give you a hint. As Rockefeller said When asked once, “How much money is enough money?” He replied, “Just a little bit more.”

        Keep chasing that little bit more. You are not impressive, just a sad example of misplaced priorities.

  47. Anonymous says:

    Enemy we fight in combat are better citizens to their nation than any critic who wishes his own people to suffer rather than succeed under policy choices that critic dislikes.

    Does Harbison’s desire for other Americans to suffer also extend to his wife and daughter? Do they suffer too and unto what? Death by an illegal, as in today’s news? Impoverishment? Unemployment? What suffering for himself?

    What suffering satisfies a self-congratulatory Mengele who see himself a Schweitzer?

    Words are symbols of real life/death outcomes. Deeds matter. Success matters.

    If stock markets collapse and stay that way, the end of Trump in politics is assured. And the end of the USA too. And not because Harbison wished it. It is because the mix either works or it doesn’t.

    “You can’t con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion, you can get all kinds of press… but if you don’t deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on.” Trump said that. It is honest and brutally real. And safer than listening to this Mengele bragging about his value to science and humanity… and public policymaking. Or listing to him as a hypocrite, so socially inept so as to be mindless of his own vapid hypocrisy he spouts like some brilliant professor who forgets to wear pants.

    Harbison says he is tired of winning. So he wants losing? No, he brags of increasing his own profits. Brags of winning while delighting on others’ misery. A hypocrite who wants Americans to suffer and die if they disagree with his politics.

    • The markets aren’t going to collapse and stay that way, idjit. This is a correction. It’s main use is to make Trump look like an idiot.

      I’m demon doctor Mengele? LOL! No. But you’re a lunatic.

      Made a cool $3,600 in 3 hours this morning buying in the panicked premarket and selling as soon as the regular market opened. Living well is the best revenge.

      • bynd says:

        Scrooge lived well.

        Living well and being content are two different things. Your statement can only be viewed as you are not one who understands the difference.

        Revenge against who or what? Small mind, small thoughts, small person.

        Too many people spend money they earned..to buy things they don’t want..to impress people that they don’t like. –Will Rogers

        And you have impressed no one here with your crumbs.

        (G)ullible (H)orse’s ass, entertainment value, priceless!

      • russiankins have no self control says:

        So, you don’t control your own life and money. If not someone on here, it is Trump who does.

        $50 bucks though. Homeless people give that much.

        Have some balls and put something worth it out there.

  48. Anonymous says:

    Not surprised about the market, regular folks push on as the jarhead plods ahead(as his work ethic has been described), and underlying confidence is shaken by the pant-suited who one has pressed the coup from her canned nomination throughout the next administration while half the nation cries the Russians are coming.

  49. Rockin Robin says:

    And what has been proven the ruskies have done, stuffed ballot boxes, hired people to vote multiple times, had illegals vote, hacked voting machines, no it isn’t a significant amount, they say. They played on social media, whom you give more info than needed to vote. Tweet, tweet, tweet. So how hard would it be for lady Chardonnay. her set-up nomination was just a trial run you saps

  50. Sparklers says:

    Trump’s proposed idea of holding a Military Parade is called “waste of money” by Democrats and a few Republicans. Maybe they are right. Maybe Trump, because he once led a military parade down Broadway as a cadet, is nostalgic and wasteful. The guy who underspent Hillary and Jeb by more than half. Funny thing is, NYC already holds 30 plus parades each year. And the Dems who most loudly call this a waste of money are the same people who shut down government, refusing to pay our troops so Democrats could reward people who sneak into the USA. Maybe our troops will forget that. Or not. Maybe Trump is fishing.

    A parade could cost $20 million. Bill Clinton agreed to give North Korea’s dictator $4 billion so NK would never build the nukes it now aims at us. But before we single out Billy, remember that our federal govt each year spends $2 billion to make farmers not farm, $3 billion to re-sand beaches, and $25 billion to maintain vacant federal properties. We need blogger carpal tunnel subsidies!

    NYC PARADES: Chinese Lunar New Year Parade –Martin Luther King Jr. Parade –Three Kings Day Parade –Greek Independence Day Parade –St. Patrick’s Day Parade –Easter Parade –Tartan Day Parade –Persian Parade –Celebrate Israel Parade –Cinco de Mayo Parade –Kings County Memorial Day Parade –New York Dance Parade –Norwegian-American Parade –Brooklyn Pride Parade –Coney Island Mermaid Parade –Hunts Point Fish Parade –National Puerto Rican Day Parade –Philippine Independence Day Parade — Pride Parade –Queens Pride Parade (gay)–Flower Parade –Dominican Day Parade –Labor Day Parade –African-American Day Parade –German-American Steuben Parade –West Indian American Day Parade –Columbus Day Parade –Greenwich Village Halloween Parade –Korean Day Parade –Pulaski Day Parade –America’s Parade –Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade.

  51. progressives, failed evolution says:

    Stock market’s value under Trump has grown by $6.9 trillion to $30.6 trillion
    The stock market has added $6.9 trillion in market cap since Donald Trump was elected president.
    That is already nearly half of what the market grew by in all eight years of the Obama administration.
    Trump’s performance, as measured by the S&P 500, is up 23 percent in the year since his inauguration, much better than the 13 percent average of first-year performances since 1928.
    Patti Domm | @pattidomm

  52. progressives, failed evolution says:

    Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump’s alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

  53. progressives, failed evolution says:

    THE CLINTONS 12 hours ago
    Uranium One informant says Moscow paid millions in bid to influence Clinton

      • progressives, failed evolution says:

        Just like in the snowflakes world, it isn’t about indictments. Imagine that.

        Hold your breath though. It would help immensely.

        And I am sure you feel the same about the Russian investigation.

        Obama State Dept. official admits free-flowing exchange of reports with Trump dossier author
        An Obama State Department official has acknowledged he had regular contact with the author of the controversial anti-Trump dossier – coming forward in an apparent bid to blunt expected criticism from the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.He said he shared “more than 100 of Steele’s reports with the Russia experts at the State Department” over a period of two years. These weren’t related to American politics – but he would later share information about the Trump dossier with the top levels of the Obama-era State Department.

        He said he shared “more than 100 of Steele’s reports with the Russia experts at the State Department” over a period of two years. These weren’t related to American politics – but he would later share information about the Trump dossier with the top levels of the Obama-era State Department.

      • The obvious to the oblivius says:

        You can spell it out for them, but they already know, they’re waiting for that whack upside the head

  54. Lil Mac says:

    To speak of Indictment of Hillary or Trump, is to foolishly dream that “lock her up” or “lock him up” be a legal reality. When, in fact, political reality is the same as warfare reality.

    It is always better to wound your opponent than to kill or capture them. An opponent wounded is better for you than one dead or draining your resources. Wounded enemy drain your enemies’ recourses. Taking them prisoner is a problem for you, unless you plan to ransom or eat them.

    Politically, it is not only foolish to make martyrs out of enemy you are trying to discredit, but doubly so because that denies you the important benefit of them being alive and free but so disoriented by their wounds that they destroy their own credibility from their own mouths. You can never do that. Only they can be their own hypocrite. Getting your enemy to do that is difficult deep strategic thinking but if you cannot manage that then you have no business being a general of an army, a corporation, a government or any kind of policymaker/executive.

  55. Lunch says:

    I blew up that video of Kirk Penner holding two meat packages. There weren’t Nebraska beef.

    We should have known. They are marked “USDA CHOICE: Soylant Products, Inc.”

  56. snowflakes, personal hatred over party and country says:

    Democrats ought to worry about the midterm elections

    Generic ballot polling is generally thought to be the best predictor of the mood of the electorate during a midterm season. Such polls usually ask the question: “If the election were held today, would you vote for a Democrat or Republican for Congress?”
    The latest responses are very troubling for Democrats.
    New polling shows that Democrats have lost their recent 15-point lead over Republicans, dropping to only a two-point lead for a critical election they had hoped to paint as a referendum on President Trump and writ large, Republicans.

    As some have pointed out on here, some of the progressives have shown they have not learned how to win elections.

    The #nevertrump folks have pulled the Dems down into the sewer they reside in with their irrational rantings and violence. The best thing the Repubs have going for them, is the public hatred of the opposition for the current President. Once again, if the Repubs do well, it isn’t because they deserve to but because once again, the Dems orchestrated another embarrassing loss.

    I guess we will see.

  57. Krisp Krist says:

    Bob, you couldn’t raise any money, your party thingy didn’t work. Assaid “he’s voted with the democratic party he’s voted with for years”, ain’t it the truth. Let me remind you of what Hillary has yet to learn, it’s not the party or anything else, it’s you pal. Flake

  58. Dan the Man says:

    Prof, they could save some money cleaning up the dead wood, you’re making more cash on investments, give a younger person a chance at plum gig and you could be more productive on social media.

  59. Leavenworthless says:

    What is FBI Director Chris Wray supposed to do when the President is a self-serving, venal, fuckwit? Publicly contradict the boss and prepare his CV I guess.

    • Blinders says:

      You mean his report on fantasy bureau, they always protect the desks outside their office, the others are out of sight, out of mind, true in any big org

  60. anonymous says:

    If the FBI takes a portion some of the Trump busters for these shooter lunatics, might be some results with all those resources in four years.

  61. Snippy says:

    10:54 am – You are correct on all points except when you say if Republicans win in November, Dems will have “orchestrated another embarrassing loss.”

    It is important to recognize that any man persuaded to emasculate himself hasn’t orchestrated his own orchiectomy. In that case, he who makes such prodigious persuasion is the one wielding the baton.

    Ovaries of course too. We all saw a rising rightwing Carly spay her own political career by rushing to the defense of leftist Rosy. She–like two dozen seasoned GOP candidates, the Clinton machine, a foot-dragging GOP Senate, the Press and intel chiefs now too–have all done and are still doing a “Boston Corbett” on themselves. Political heroes who snip off their own gonads sans anesthetic. Except that today’s DC Elites aren’t like Corbett insane. Chivvied into it by a relative newbie, they are proud intellects duped by their own hubris. Voters will always find a great schadenfreude and zero sympathy for emperors left naked by their own greedy holes in what they thought was their own unassailable brilliant wit.

    Consider the swampiness of it all. 80 years of DC secret police political blackmailers (Truman’s, JFK’s, LBJ’s, Nixon’s, Bush’s, etc. assessment of the DC spy chiefs) and suddenly the secrecy needed to be a good blackmailer spy-chief evaporates as FBI directors are lime lighted voicing push-back against a “my phones are tapped” newbie. So too, decades of Press bias so profitably hidden behind façades of faux impartiality suddenly gone as CNN loses out to rabidly leftist MSNBC. And Democrat DC elites, once moderate and electable, who have long since become unelectable left-wingers except for a Progressive “smiling heart” which thanks to Trump is now replaced by a grimacing hate that voters despise. This all looks, to a distanced eye, like a swamp orchestrated to drain itself. There isn’t any baton swinging around. Just tweets scattered like land mines that opponents cannot help but pick up and fiddle with.

    Dem elites are dying of grumpy blind progressivism. Republican elites suffer political osteoporosis. DC spy chiefs need a Dem Congress in Nov to stop a solutionist Trump from draining a bipartisan DC spy swamp that flows with dirt on everyone as its base liquid. Facing all this, Trump gets far more traction with soft boned conservatives than with irrationally blind progressives, so he needs to increase GOPers in the House and Senate. Yet that is impossible. Midterm elections always have lower turnouts, the incumbent always suffers a loss of his party’s seats in Congress, and more so if he has a unified government (both houses) as Trump now has. Yet, as Trump nudges the left farther left, they become less electable. Snip, snip.

    • Anonymous says:

      Nonsense. There are more ‘independent’ voters than either R or D and many more D’s than R’s will be motivated to vote THIS midterm election! Nice prose though.

      • Political Novice says:

        I have no crystal ball for the upcoming midterm elections but judging from some of my friends and family they will vote depending which letter is behind the name as they always have. To my astonishment they find no fault with President Trump on any level despite all the news stories which have come out showing him in a negative light. I guess it should come as no surprise as almost every talk show on the local radio stations promote Republicans. I agree the number of independent voters IS growing however (which I have been for many years) and I feel that will continue. Which party they will swing to is anyone’s guess.

  62. Snippy says:

    “What is FBI Director Chris Wray supposed to do?” Answer: HIS JOB. — While getting political face time FBI chiefs neglected to catch spies meddling AND they ignored Americans reporting a school shooter, for which Wray blames you. He says Americans must be “vigilant”. Americans were vigilant! The FBI abetted child murder. This travesty isn’t partisan.

    “More Independent voters… will be motivated to vote this midterm election! Nice prose though.” – Snippy says thanks! But as Bynd notes, the nature of Independents makes them the least interested voters in midterms. Trump faces a daunting challenge. It is rare for any President to have his party gain seats during his midterm (‘34, ‘98 & ‘02 exceptions), and even rarer while a POTUS has both houses of his own party. That goes for GOP and Democrat presidents and thus this too isn’t partisan.

    Political Novice approaches this with a wise “astonishment” at his own inability to see why Trump continues to have support against a sea of negative news. Wise, because strategy only works when we cannot see it working. To be 100% sure of what we see is a suicidal. Our best asset is a skepticism that comes with dispassion; which is killed by passion ignited by Tweets. Like seeing light bend around a massive invisible object and assuming nothing massive is there, we keep trying to see farther than politicians on their higher perches who scan the horizon and still they rise on blind passion to gut themselves. We need to eschew fantasy and conclude probabilities by inference. Human brains are heuristic and leaky. Our best chance at not gutting ourselves is what Political Novice shows. DISPASSION & HUMILITY. For many GOP and Democrat elites, and apartisan bureaucrats too, have in the presence of Trump skinned themselves. That isn’t partisan.

    Russian’s are just as blind. Like our pols and press, they assume America runs better under elite party dynasts and establishment wonks who in fact keep our federal govt inefficient. Trying to hurt the USA, Russians clownishly tried to boost Sanders, Stein and Trump (all Populists of the left, green and right varieties) while Russians rooted against Cruz, Rubio and Clinton and, if Jeb hadn’t been such a train-wreck, would have gone against Bush too. The thing is, Trump was elected by working patriots, entrepreneurs and unionists in blue and red states who all, despite their party leanings, voted against the dynastic icons foisted on them. They sensed better the populist gravity pols couldn’t or wouldn’t and still won’t. That too isn’t partisan.

    All these high up political people, so sure of what they think they know, standing knee deep in swamp that they keep filled, wondering why so many average people aren’t interested in joining them in their swimming pool. The myopia, stupidity and cupidity of political experts, that too isn’t partisan.

    • Anonymous says:

      Evidently Snippy and bynd don’t really understand the “nature” of “independent” voters! They vote independently, as in, unpredictably and reactively. Go ahead, bynd, google something to substantiate your belief. And you, Snippy (formerly Lil Mac???) did misquote the Independent vs. R&D (not Independent R vs. Independent D), but, let’s take your position anyway. As Political Novice established, the news and the news and the news yesterday, today, and tomorrow will effect votes cast come November. Trump’s populism takes a punch each time he fails the sensitivity test. And he failed again, big time, since the Florida shootings.

      • Anonymous, no one missed you, no one even said anything about such as you being gone! says:

        The bozo’s have returned. And it was sooooooooooooo nice before the Neanderthal’s returned. And now more of their attacks with no civility evident.

        I would have told you that most independents tend towards Republicans. Is that what the poll states? No! And it’s Pew research. People who have a reputation far above your ignorant rants.

        Go curl up in a corner again and suck your thumb some more. The place was cleaned up until you returned and it has, in one post, become a sewer again. You are one stupid POS!!!!!!!!!

        No one wants you here. Your kind left. The rest stayed and no one, NOT ONE, complained such as you no longer posted. Get the hint!!!!!!

      • Leavenworthless says:

        The Florida survivors aren’t sucking their thumbs. They are taking on Trump, the NRA and anyone who takes the NRA’s money. Today. This morning. Those kids are PISSED and they call BS. Those kids are going to save their own lives and the lives of many others. Because the “adults” can’t be bothered with action beyond the usual “thoughts and prayers.” Thoughts and prayers are all Pete Ricketts has to offer. Thoughts and prayers are all Ben Sasse has to offer. How quaint. Gestures as empty as the heads, hearts and hands that made them.

      • they've been lead astray and are myopic says:

        Albert Einstein is broadly credited with exclaiming “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”. It truly doesn’t make a difference that there’s truly no proof that Einstein really put forth this expression; it’s still an awesome quote!

        Every time something as terrible and evil as school mass shooting occur, we can guarantee one reaction. The debate over gun control. Yes a few things need changing, but essentially we get no where in that debate. Even a change in gun control laws guarantees nothing.

        Politicians and leaders always promise after such horrific actions, to do everything they can to keep our children safe. One thing proven in Florida is high impact material in the third floor windows stopped the shooter from shooting them out and shooting down on those running for their lives. While the students down stairs reported the glass in their rooms with bullets going them shattering and being a cause of some injuries. And the kids felt helpless in a room with no protection.

        So, simple logic tells us, if a shooter can not get to the children, they can not kill the children. Why isn’t all glass in schools replaced with such material?

        The only reply to such a proposition I have heard, a while ago, is we don’t want to send our kids to a fortress. My reply, then you don’t want to do every thing you can to keep our/your children safe! Doable and proven to save lives.

        I like the idea of the southern wall. But better yet, I like the idea of $25 billion being spent on high impact material and fortified doors at schools.

        Get rid of agendas and politics and save the children.

        Deliver on the promises of “do everything possible”.

      • progressives have no practical answers says:

        PS, worthless vitriol about gun control laws is all the progressives have to offer. How’s that working for those kids?

      • Oracle says:

        It’s simple. Ban any guns that can fire bullets over a certain rate. I don’t have any delusions that this will eliminate all of these weapons, but it will make it much harder for sick people to find them.

      • answers have to be practical says:

        And how do you do that? And how do you enforce that? You need to be realistic. Especially if such laws can pass muster of the constitution.

        At this point, according to Vox, there are more guns than people in the United States, an overwhelming statistic for those hoping to curb gun violence with new regulations. So exactly how many guns are there in America at the present moment? It’s difficult to calculate, but in 2015, The Washington Post estimated the number of firearms nationwide at 357 million. That’s already a staggering figure, but it becomes even more so when compared with the country’s population, which at that time was 317 million.

        So, good luck on your proposal. As I stated, gun control in the current climate is time wasted while our children die. The Columbine shooting took place 19 years ago. And quite frankly, the issue is law enforcement’s failure. they had the opportunity and info to stop it. Whey did not.

        Why? as a former in the FBI has noted, instead of tips going into field offices, they go into one central massive place on the east coast. And must first be vetted by those cubical folks.

        F.B.I. Was Warned of Florida Suspect’s Desire to Kill but Did Not Act …
        FBI says it failed to properly investigate January tip on teen accused in …342,000 Google replies to that headline. I didn’t see one that said FBI did it’s job. Just like 9/11.

      • Oracle says:

        I and those Florida kids call BS on you. No one is trying to get rid of all guns. Just those that are capable of quick mass killings. Giving us a count of all guns in the country means nothing. Betting that the number of guns that meet my standard is a miniscule percentage of all guns. And for you strict Constitutionalists, I’m fine with any guns that have the firepower of those that existed when the Constitution was passed, i.e. late 1700s.

        You proved my point by bringing up law enforcement. It’s obvious that solution is not working, so we better try something else. But you scaredy cats are so afraid of losing your guns that you resist all common sense restrictions. Those kids’ blood is on your hands. F U all!

      • children sacrificed on the altar of gun control says:

        Oracle,
        stereotyping befits a myopic person like you. And you are a perfect example of what this country’s problem with gun control is.

        I said nothing about banning all weapons. I own no guns. So all your suppositions are just nothing more than your rigid unwavering thought process producing BS held over from your good old days. Grow up and try to get over your irrational bias’.

        In any case, who can correct their problems the easiest just by following protocol? law enforcement. As I have pointed out and you did not address, nor could you rationally, 1999 was the first mass shooting at schools and what has changed since then? Nothing. A lot has to do with folks like you. Guns, guns, guns. and your point has saved how many children? Mean while why you and yours continue the asinine fight of guns, our children are dying.

        Children dying are the direct results of doing the same thing every time and expecting things to change. Stupid. Children keep dying.

        And yes you proved my point, your are not about the children, you are about gun control. How’s that working out for Sandy Hook, or Stoneman Douglas High School. Dead children and you saying the only answer is guns. Mean while, more children will die. Ought to make you proud of the stance you have dug in to fight for. More dead children or not. Those are your results not mine.

        If changing gun laws are the only answer, be prepared to have a lot more mass shootings at schools. I guess you like that you think it supports your narrative. What do we get with your actions then? More dead children.

        Notice a theme there. Everything you stand for in this horrible scenario is proven to be wrong. 19 years of wrong. Yet children are still being sacrificed on your altar of gun control.

        Our military gets better protection than our children. Our first responders get better protection than our children. Hell, pilots in the cockpit get better protection than our children. And it has less to do with guns than with making them more inaccessible to the bad guys.

      • Oracle says:

        So you’re omniscient? You know exactly what I’m about? No, you’re full of s**t. I have no problem with guns in general. Friends and relatives have guns, mostly for hunting. Fine with me. Guns for self-protection and concealed carry are also okay. I initially was against concealed carry, afraid that quick access to firearms could lead to more deaths in the heat of passion, but stats don’t bear that out. So I changed my mind based on rationality and FACTS, something most of you idiots on this site are unable to do. Why are we the only country suffering from this epidemic of mass killing? I don’t have the definitive answer, but removing or at least severely restricting the supply of guns that allow for mass slaughter appears to me to be something we should be trying. Why are you so against that? If you really cared so much about “the children” then you’d be willing to try anything that might possibly work.

      • progressives, Russian bots? says:

        Of course we know who you are. You put it out here when you post.

        “So I changed my mind based on rationality and FACTS, something most of you idiots on this site are unable to do.” And that has gotten you where? And saved how many children’s lives? Like I said, your program only promises us more dead children.

        Why are we the only country suffering from this epidemic of mass killing?

        Pretty simple answer. We are the only with a second amendment. The rest don’t have such freedoms.

        I don’t have the definitive answer, but removing or at least severely restricting the supply of guns that allow for mass slaughter appears to me to be something we should be trying. Why are you so against that

        It’s lines like that that show why your answer sucks and you have no clue. I never said anything about banning or not banning anything. That’s just stupid partisan short sightedness.

        And by then way, I am the one considering more options not you. All you care about is if some one doesn’t use the words you want to see, then they are the wrong side and you will define what that side. and throwing your stupid stereotypes around. You partisans are a pretty worthless bunch.

        And now that you have proven my point again, during this stupid debate, how more children have you condemned to die? Shall we lay nineteen years of children dying at your feet? You not only did not get your gun control, you made no other meaningful efforts to protect the kids in any meaningful way. Open your eyes, I’m willing to take the measures necessary to save the children.
        All you care about because all you post about is gun control or nothing. How’s that working out for the kids you say you want to protect?

        If you really cared so much about “the children” then you’d be willing to try anything that might possibly work.

        I’ve given practical options that are proven to work and could be compromised and started in short order. Just like, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School?

        And to show even more of your ignorance,
        After Florida School Shooting, Russian ‘Bot’ Army Pounced

        16m in ago. NY times. Or maybe you are just one of those bots. It wouldn’t surprise. You don’t want answers, you just want to push your agenda. Keep enabling those Russians. HRC, Podesta and Obama did.

        And you? How many have brought to your side? Enough to change the debate? Just like after columbine, just like after Sand Hook, J

  63. Snappy says:

    New York Times… “Trump’s supporters must continue to contend with questions about whether his upset for the ages was the result of foul play… That has left both sides grappling with a new twist in a debate that has consumed the political universe since the revealing final hours of election night: How did he do it?… The dispute is especially raw because of the razor-thin margin in the election and the uncertainty over what exactly tipped the balance… Mr. Trump defeated her (Clinton) in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.”

    Wow. This is what Progressive Dems really think. And they are now saying it out loud.

    It is Trump haters, not Trump supporters, who contend with such questions. Trump supporters see the above statement as proof of Trump Hater insanity. The question is, how does this Left-Think gnashing of teeth appear to dispassionate swing voters who decide elections?

    Of course, Hillary lost blue states. She never visited WI, she screwed Dem union mine workers in PN and WV. And that “razor thin” Trump margin was a 15% EV landslide. Bill Clinton’s most ardent Democratic supporters cannot stand Hillary. They find her repulsive. Leftists are now left with her as their legacy and that overlays their normal existing irrationality and intolerance.

    By every measure, Progressives are far more intolerant of other’s ideas. Yet, when you think about it, intolerance isn’t partisan. It is simply shutting your eyes to oncoming trains. Progressivism doesn’t make people into irrational shits. It attracts that sort.

    Case in point, Russia Collusion applied to Trump seems neurotic projection by Dems.

    The JAN 2013, PRAVDA article “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World” brags about how Putin suckered Obama/Clinton so Putin can control the global uranium supply chain. Pravda, crowing about it in 2013. Clinton and Obama were sucking Putin’s balls when Trump was still up for Emmys.

    Progressives would be better off today had they just melted down. Instead, Progressives have become hyperactive, agitated, to the point of verbally furiously masturbating in public unawares. Its irrelevant whether you find that pathetic or funny. It is what they do. And while dispassionate, distanced voters may ignore some monkey antics, those furiously and very loudly abusing themselves in public are hard to miss.

      • Coorps says:

        He isn’t really active anyway, just the dems on his team, credibility, questionable. All roadblocks to what all know, and the facts are slowly rolling out. The next thing that you don’t want to acknowledge is the former Presidents hand in thuggery, what a shame

  64. Anonymous says:

    In response to the insult free comment by Anonymous @ 6:33a yesterday, bynd replies @ 9:20a with a barrage of name-calling! I see nothing has changed here at Leavenworth St. And I really thought that something worthwhile had been posted due to the increased rate of comments (17) yesterday. But it was only bynd…

    • progressives, failed evolution says:

      Yes, it was very nice until you folks returned. @ 6:33 comes out with a personal attack right off the bat. No facts no intelligent rebuttal. And then comes at 2:54 making the usual, it’s bynd’s fault.

      I posted from the Pew research center and @6:33 accuses me of Googling just to support my position. I put no position out there. Duh! And as I pointed out, their research doesn’t even support what I thought was the answer.

      Your inability to see the personal attack from 6:33 is not surprising.

      Go away again. You folks add nothing valid or intelligent to a conversation. If you don’t want a response from someone, the issue is yours not mine. Hint, don’t post to them.

      So quit blaming me for you and yours lack of self control and inability to converse in a civil and intelligent manner.

      And take Oracle the stereotyping illiterate with you. We’ve had enough of the blind partisanship.

      • Anonymous says:

        No, I’m not going away at your demand, bynd. There was NO INSULT and NO PERSONAL ATTACK posted at 6:33. You are delusional.

      • progressives, evolution failed says:

        Sycophants rarely see the truth. And nice personal attacks. Wow we are so excited the bottom of the barrel folks like you are back.

        And anonymous has gone back to meaning partisan stupidity.

      • Anonymous says:

        Another day and another sycophantic response from you. What has you so agitated? Your ongoing irrational hostility suggests a very troubled soul, bynd.

      • progressives, more retro evolution on display says:

        You snowflakes need to make up your mind. Remember, I have no soul.

        But agitated is the wrong word.

        Frustrated and disappointed that we have to put up with the nonsense of the return of the snowflakes.

        Like this post by you which reeks of being written by and educated idiot. Got anything valid or interesting to say?

      • Anonymous says:

        Educated idiots and snowflakes. There was nothing in anything that I wrote which could enable you to draw a valid judgment that I am either. Absolutely nothing, while you demonstrate enough gall to accuse me of invalidity, after first accusing me of attacking. You are delusional and appear to be a very troubled soul.

  65. whose colluding and being dishonest about it? says:

    Michael Moore, the polemical filmmaker who has long accused President Trump of colluding with Russians, posted videos and pictures of himself participating in a protest in Manhattan that was allegedly organized by Russians in November 2016.

    The government alleged in an indictment signed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller that the defendants organized a Nov. 12 “Trump is NOT my President” rally in New York. Their “strategic goal” was to “sow discord in the U.S. political system,” the indictment said.

    On Nov. 12, Moore tweeted: “At today’s Trump Tower protest. He wouldn’t come down.”

  66. Oracle says:

    And now that you have proven my point again, during this stupid debate, how more children have you condemned to die? Shall we lay nineteen years of children dying at your feet?

    bynd/Dan, you are a really sick person. Confirms my belief that some people walking the earth have no souls.

    • progressives, evolution failed says:

      wow, Oracle now considers himself god.

      But then what response can he have? Could he say no that doesn’t lay at my feet and here is why?

      He didn’t, he couldn’t and the children’s blood is on the heads of the worthless progressives. All he can muster is childish personal attacks. Ooh what a meanie!

      Welcome back child hater. Let’s discuss gun control while more kids get slaughtered. It’s what you do best.

    • Oracle says:

      …This is largely the path Australia has taken. After a decades-long series of mass gun-shootings culminated in the 1996 Port Arthur massacres, that nation, in a moment of collective revulsion, chose to require a license to own virtually any type of gun, and to make semi-automatic pistols and rifles as tightly regulated as fully automatic ones.

      They also put into place a series of national amnesty and gun-buyback programs, which pulled hundreds of thousands of now-illegal guns out of circulation in that country, while appropriately compensating former gun owners.

      It’s still relatively easy for hunters and sportspeople to get pistols or rifles. All they have to do is prove that they are who they say they are, pass a background test, and then prove on an ongoing basis that they’re actually using their weapons for sport, at least annually.

      Since the implementation of these laws in 1996, Australia has not yet had another mass shooting incident. In the first years after the laws took place, firearm-related deaths in Australia fell by well over 40 percent, with suicides dropping by 77 percent.

      • what others do is not relevant to us says:

        Out of all that, you miss the one fact that counts, Australia has no equivalent of our second amendment.

        So, get the Constitutional convention going and do it legally, impervious to legal challenges.

        What do you have against the law?

      • The Grundle King says:

        Firearm related deaths were falling in Australia before the ban, ergo it’s fallacious to attribute the falling numbers TO the ban.

        FYI, using ‘Australia’ in any sort of discussion related to gun laws is little more than thinly-veiled demands for government-forced seizure of private property. It’s an admission that there’s no desire for ‘common sense’ laws…but rather, for a full erasure of the 2nd Amendment.

        So, seeing as you’ve made clear your full intention of permitting the government to come into my home without a warrant and to seize my property without my permission, understand that your purported desire for ‘common sense’ laws and regulations has been revealed as the same deceitful promise as it has always been.

        “No one’s talking about taking away your guns.”

        Bullshit then, bullshit now, bullshit henceforth.

      • Oracle says:

        I’m emphasizing mass shooting events.
        The story of Australia, which had 13 mass shootings in the 18-year period from 1979 to 1996 but none in the succeeding 19 years, is worth examining. The turning point was the 1996 Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania, in which a gunman killed 35 individuals using semiautomatic weapons.
        Seems to be a causation to me. You all are showing your true colors. The hell with innocent people being shot to death. It’s more important that you keep all of your guns, assault rifles included. Selfish jerks who are showing their real priorities. And bynd/Dan has the gall to blame me and my ilk for the murders of schoolchildren. F U all!
        FYI, using ‘Australia’ in any sort of discussion related to gun laws is little more than thinly-veiled demands for government-forced seizure of private property. It’s an admission that there’s no desire for ‘common sense’ laws…but rather, for a full erasure of the 2nd Amendment.
        GK, I guess you’re as omniscient as bynd. I’ve stated many times I have no problems with regular guns. So quit telling me what I’m demanding. It’s your sickness of irrational fears and hyper-libertarian leanings that directly result in the pain being inflicted on innocent schoolchildren.

      • Anonymous says:

        Agreed, Oracle. Regulating guns is not the same as confiscating guns. But regulating guns would make it easier to confiscate guns, should the government want to do so.

      • Oracle says:

        Let me clear. I want weapons such as the AR-15 banned not just regulated. So the government won’t have any more info on your legal guns then they do now. I’m not in any way a gun hater. But some of this firepower is ridiculous. My son told me that he could go down to Scheels and buy a legal grenade launcher. Great 🙁 And you can’t drink until you’re 21 but you can buy an AR-15. Insane.

      • The Grundle King says:

        “regular guns”

        Umm…you don’t get to decide what constitutes a “regular gun”. There are up to 10 million AR-15s in the U.S., and countless other semi-automatic rifles that are functionally equivalent. There’s nothing irregular about them, except that they are apparently capable of giving weak-kneed journalists a case of PTSD, while 10 year old girls can fire them without similar mental and emotional trauma. Oh, and before I forget, AR-15s aren’t ‘military grade’ weapons…because our military doesn’t use them.

        When you say that you want such semi-automatic weapons to be “illegal”, that means banned. Banned means people can’t possess them…which means the people who own them will be ‘relieved’ of them by the force of the federal government. THAT’S what you’re demanding. You’re demanding the government steal my property…property that’s not causing anyone any harm…so you can feel a little more virtuous and pretend it made you safer.

        Meanwhile, handguns (are those ‘regular guns’???) would still be legal, and would STILL be the weapon of choice for the vast, VAST majority of firearm-related crimes. And ya know what? The Virginia Tech shooter proved that handguns work just fine for killing a lot of people in a short period of time. I’m actually somewhat thankful that none of these shooters have figured that fact out. Your standard AR-15 is going to be in the neighborhood of 40+ inches in length and weigh about 7.5 pounds loaded. That’s a lot of gun to swing and tote. Each standard 30-round magazine is a little over 1 pound a piece fully loaded, and they take up a fair amount of space.

        Meanwhile, a shooter armed with a couple of .40 caliber pistols and a bunch of mags could probably do every bit as much damage, if not more so, than someone with any sort of semi-automatic rifle could do.

        Your son said he could buy a grenade launcher? Great. Go ask him if he can legally buy the grenades for it…you know, the part that actually makes the launcher dangerous. Without the grenade rounds, the launcher’s just a big, heavy, and totally pointless accessory.

        Yes, my freedoms are more important than your feelings. But my real issue is that your solutions ignore the root cause of the problem. Guns are not the root cause. Guns don’t cause people to shoot up schools anymore than cars cause people to drive drunk. You’re ignorant to think that getting rid of semi-automatic rifles will fix the problem…and of course, when it doesn’t work, will you say, “Hey guys, we screwed up. You can have them all back!”??? Of course not.

        IMO, the cause is a society that glorifies and distributes consequence-free violence through all manners of media. Music, video games, movies, television, etc. You’re wringing your hands over the wrong Constitutional amendment. You say nobody “needs” an AR-15? Disagreed…but we could probably both agree that nobody needs movies that depict the level of brutality and gore that has become the norm. Violence is a sickness in our society…and the media continues to feed the disease.

      • Oracle says:

        GK, you are one of the selfish jerks that believes your personal rights outweigh those of society. You are a dinosaur, and the young people disagree with this opinion. It may take a few more years, but like the #MeToo movment, change is coming.

        No, I don’t get to decide what a “regular gun” is, but the majority does. And the government is not going to raid your house to find your AR-15. (Paranoia seems to run in your crowd.) Plenty of people possess illegal items. But the penalty if that gun is stolen from you should be severe.

        Your freedoms are not greater than my right to live in a safe society (pursuit of happiness, you know). And this country is coming around. Your morality argument is BS because most of the world watches the same movies we do, but they’re not seeing the killing we are.

  67. If they can't get to them, they can't shoot them says:

    Wisconsin teen invents device to protect students during a shooting

    What adults have been unable to do since Columbine, 1999.

    Why? An unnatural fixation on guns.

  68. bynd says:

    Oracle,

    Do you use Australia as an example of, results only. Or the method in which they obtained the results?

    Or both? What is your point? Not being snarky but I need to understand what you think is necessary to do based on your example.

    • Oracle says:

      The point is that certain weapons that can cause quick and massive death should be banned. Australia did and no more mass killings. A bullet-exit rate could be determined (through compromise) and anything over a certain rate is banned. No one needs this crap, and its legality allows too many weapons of mass destruction to get into the wrong hands. And the young kids that were shot at in Florida are leading the way.

      • The Grundle King says:

        “A bullet exit rate could be determined through compromise…”

        First, bullet exit rate on ANY semi-automatic is determined by how fast the user can activate the trigger. You can’t set restriction on the rate of fire when the rate of fire is determined by the user.

        Second, whose compromise? You certainly don’t seem willing to compromise on the legality of semi-automatic rifles.

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